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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

He is a genius. His IQ is far above Mike’s. He may be a bit eccentric similar to Howard Hughes…but idiot not.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

He is a genius. His IQ is far above Mike’s. He may be a bit eccentric similar to Howard Hughes…but idiot not.

The only thing he ever invented is an ugly truck that can't get wet, everything else he bought from the geniuses who invented them, including Twitter that he paid $44 billion for and is now worth a quarter of that.

Much like Truth Social.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
l don't like electric cars but love Musk. Since they have bent the rules with Obama, can he be President?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
l don't like electric cars but love Musk. Since they have bent the rules with Obama, can he be President?

Sure, the last amateur with no clue how government works only killed about a million Americans, why not try again, maybe Musk can kill 2 million.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
l don't like electric cars but love Musk. Since they have bent the rules with Obama, can he be President?

Sure, the last amateur with no clue how government works only killed about a million Americans, why not try again, maybe Musk can kill 2 million.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
l don't like electric cars but love Musk. Since they have bent the rules with Obama, can he be President?

Sure, the last amateur with no clue how government works only killed about a million Americans, why not try again, maybe Musk can kill 2 million.

I am happy for you that breathing is an autonomic reflex. Otherwise…

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

He is a genius. His IQ is far above Mike’s. He may be a bit eccentric similar to Howard Hughes…but idiot not.

The only thing he ever invented is an ugly truck that can't get wet, everything else he bought from the geniuses who invented them, including Twitter that he paid $44 billion for and is now worth a quarter of that.

Much like Truth Social.

Thats very dismissive though. Starlink is awesome and will be the worlds choice of communication that allows even third world countries viable and economic access too everything internet that we in the first world have. Space X is innovatively reusing rocket parts and will be the first company to really visit Mars.
His work with solar panels and electricity is going to help the world.
He may not invent it himself, but he has the foresight to go there and or recognise great ideas when others dont.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

He is a genius. His IQ is far above Mike’s. He may be a bit eccentric similar to Howard Hughes…but idiot not.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Agree or disagree with his actions, Hes not an idiot though is he.

He is a genius. His IQ is far above Mike’s. He may be a bit eccentric similar to Howard Hughes…but idiot not.

The only thing he ever invented is an ugly truck that can't get wet, everything else he bought from the geniuses who invented them, including Twitter that he paid $44 billion for and is now worth a quarter of that.

Much like Truth Social.

Thats very dismissive though. Starlink is awesome and will be the worlds choice of communication that allows even third world countries viable and economic access too everything internet that we in the first world have. Space X is innovatively reusing rocket parts and will be the first company to really visit Mars.
His work with solar panels and electricity is going to help the world.
He may not invent it himself, but he has the foresight to go there and or recognise great ideas when others dont.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I disagree that Musk is a visionary. Musk’s strength is in taking an existing idea and using his wealth to hire other people who can take the idea from concept to reality.

That's a skill but it's not genius nor is it visionary.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I disagree that Musk is a visionary. Musk’s strength is in taking an existing idea and using his wealth to hire other people who can take the idea from concept to reality.

That's a skill but it's not genius nor is it visionary.

Like buying Twitter for $44 billion, tanking it to being worth maybe $12 billion by skewing to the Right after claiming it could only be worthwhile if it remained neutral and eliminated meaningful moderation to let the Klan and the Nazis run free.

Some "visionary"...

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Much of the technology from Elon's companies is cutting edge.

Visionary much. As will eventually bear out...even the acquisition of Twitter was visionary.

Who would have thought that there would be Americans calling for the censorship of speech. Elon saw it and put his money behind it.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I disagree that Musk is a visionary. Musk’s strength is in taking an existing idea and using his wealth to hire other people who can take the idea from concept to reality.

That's a skill but it's not genius nor is it visionary.

Like buying Twitter for $44 billion, tanking it to being worth maybe $12 billion by skewing to the Right after claiming it could only be worthwhile if it remained neutral and eliminated meaningful moderation to let the Klan and the Nazis run free.

Some "visionary"...

I don't see how removing moderation of "both" sides is skewing to the right?

Is banning Trump, yet allowing the Ayatollah's account to remain open, free speech?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Much of the technology from Elon's companies is cutting edge.

Visionary much. As will eventually bear out...even the acquisition of Twitter was visionary.

Who would have thought that there would be Americans calling for the censorship of speech. Elon saw it and put his money behind it.

And Twitter/X is now a cesspool of misinformation, falsehoods and lies. Which, I assume, is why you've adopted it as your go-to source of information.

By the way, Twitter/X's value is down 80% since your boy purchased it. Now, that's visionary.

https://www.usatoday.com/story...idelity/75481287007/

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Much of the technology from Elon's companies is cutting edge.

Visionary much. As will eventually bear out...even the acquisition of Twitter was visionary.

Who would have thought that there would be Americans calling for the censorship of speech. Elon saw it and put his money behind it.

And Twitter/X is now a cesspool of misinformation, falsehoods and lies. Which, I assume, is why you've adopted it as your go-to source of information.

By the way, Twitter/X's value is down 80% since your boy purchased it. Now, that's visionary.

https://www.usatoday.com/story...idelity/75481287007/

He is not in it for the short term.

What it is…is free. You know the concept that Americans have been dying for since the 18th century?

Like I said: “Who would have thought Americans would be against free speech.”

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jef is correct.

Again, I have previously given the cares multiple times.

Con law 101 where there is not government action there is no 14th Amendment due process analysis to be performed.

The S. Ct., has rules on this issue. The Biden Administration did not engage is violating 1st Amendment rights through social media.

It was not, as things go, a hard decision.

Free Speech does not require every person to have sway. It is called the market place if ideas. Folks are free to reject them or accept stupid. The acceptance of stupid is certainly why Trump is still around.

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So, what Zuke says is not dispositive of the issue.

I posted the case bf. I would suggest reading it.

One can disagree. I certainly have before, but an educated critique would require a breakdown of facts that would require not applying the constitutional principles I set out above found in the record on appeal. Or a critique detailing how the application of the above constitutional principles were applied incorrectly.

I certainly do not support overturning and extend 14th Amendment Due Process analysis to non-public actors outside of the work place. That is what would have to happen for what is argued for here to be a constitutional violation.

Your employer can censor the work pls e so long as censorship is not in violation due to race, sex, gender, religion, or age. These being the application of federal law long held constitutional with sender identification being most recent.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I understand the law. And I understand being an American.

Americans don’t want censorship in the public arena…even if legal from a private company standpoint. Elon gets this and his insight will pay off in the long run.

If you want to speak of fascism…censorship is the tool. I’ll decide what to read/listen to for myself.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Dr. Easter has proven he does not understand being an American.
Except the state can tell a parent what prayer their child is to say to what god, right?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I understand the law. And I understand being an American.

Americans don’t want censorship in the public arena…even if legal from a private company standpoint. Elon gets this and his insight will pay off in the long run.

If you want to speak of fascism…censorship is the tool. I’ll decide what to read/listen to for myself.

But no private service provider is obligated to give you a venue to lie.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I understand the law. And I understand being an American.

Americans don’t want censorship in the public arena…even if legal from a private company standpoint. Elon gets this and his insight will pay off in the long run.

If you want to speak of fascism…censorship is the tool. I’ll decide what to read/listen to for myself.

But no private service provider is obligated to give you a venue to lie.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b441313ab65c5d&ei=15

Elon Musk's Trump rally appearance just sealed his legacy
Story by Ayman Mohyeldin and Andrew Kenlon and Allison Detzel • 5h • 3 min read

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“As you can see, I’m not just MAGA. I’m dark MAGA,” Musk told the crowd. He then urged attendees to “fight,” and that Trump “must win to preserve the Constitution. He must win to preserve democracy in America.”

I’m not sure about “dark MAGA” — I much prefer comedian Mike Drucker’s interpretation: “dork MAGA.” But let’s take this moment in. What happened on that stage on Sunday in Butler will be the legacy of Elon Musk. The man once seen as a tech visionary, a real-life Tony Stark, will now be known as the man who traded in his reputation and his self-professed principles to become nothing more than a reactionary Lex Luthor in a MAGA hat.