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Link CNN's John Miller is reporting that Trump told his Probation Officer yesterday that he still has the third gun he was licensed to carry at Mar-A-Lago. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | ||
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Worth noting that the conditions of his release in D.C., Georgia and Florida all require that he not violate State or Federal Law. If he has a gun he's committing another Felony. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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How much might they bring on GunBroker? Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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i'd ask a lawyer to explain the difference between state vs federal felony, as i have NO CLUE on the distinction - but it might even be more of an ironic situation if he loses his national right to vote -- i THINK state felonies are limited in scope to that state .. but IDK if that's anything more than a fever dream opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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The only real distinction is the sovereign being the designated jurisdiction. The Feds and state can have mirror statutes, and both can prosecute you w separate sentences to run consecutively. This does not violate double jeopardy. Only a governor can pardon for a state felony. Only a president can pardon for a fed felony. A felony whether state or Fed carries the same collateral consequences. A state through the legislature or pardon of the governor can restore rights such as voting. It restore firearms rights through legislation such as certain kinds of expungement, or pardon. Not all state legislature expungements for state felonies will act to restore firearm rights. The fed courts have held when the expungement is a mere dealing of the criminal record, and not a legislative destroy the conviction, the Feds can still prosecute and obtain conviction for felony in possession, felony attempting purchase. There was a lot of headache and heartache over this when the felony expungement movement got going in the early 2010s. Some states permit felons to vote. Some do not. Some permit the right to be restored after a process. Until Trump is sentenced he is not subject to the firearms prohibition for current possession. If he were to try and buy a firearm the Feds would grab that post conviction. Also some states do not hold that you lose the firearms as in ownership, merely what is forfeited is the right to possession. The state does not automatically obtain forfeiture of the firearms to the state under this principle. KY is like that. Unless the firearm was owned and used in the crime, the felon may not possess, but he is still owner and can designate a legal person to take position. We have no state registers or licensing here. I admit it is strange. In all cases a felony carries a penalty of at least 1 year incarceration as jeopardy. Felonies are designed by the statutes. These are general principles. There is a theory that Trump could still vote for himself in Florida due to Florida state law depending when he actually became domiciled, not just moved, to Florida. Now, there may have been a NY bond condition not to possess a firearm he maybe violating. We do not have enough facts. In every state law enforcement is authorized to move to strip a CCW permit upon conviction. That right is not the same as actual possession. Although, the two have been analyzed by the courts together as one. Of course, if the permit is stripped that permits the handgun in NY/NY City and Trump has the gun in NY, he is going to be in violation of NY state law, or NY city ordinance. | |||
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thanks .. let's put a fine point on it - does a NT conviction prevent him from possessing a firearm in FLA? I honestly don't know opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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A felony conviction means loss of your firearms rights, any felony, Federal or State. Some misdemeanors as well such as domestic abuse. | |||
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I'm pretty sure Steve is right. | |||
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Yes. Funny enough absent expungement or pardon. There is a legislative petition for relief to the ATF to relieve the disability found in the 1986 The McClure-Volkmer Act. One can petition to have the disability life red under the above act. Now, if NY has a mirror statute, that federal relief would not restore his right on NY, but would in FL. Assuming said relief was granted. | |||
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So what? This is America, where corruption is taken to heights never dreamt of before! How did he become Commander in Chief of the armed forces when he was a draft dodging coward?? | |||
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