...until MAGA is dead and buried. https://www.usatoday.com/story...on-2024/74872375007/

Republicans are running scared all over the country. Trying to suppress the vote when they can and not certifying elections if they lose. Definitely a political party on the decline, willing to do anything, legal or illegal, to delay the inevitable.

They don't appeal to the American people anymore, just the white supremacists, and Karens among us.

Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

The Dem candidate has the best chance to beat Trump.

? NEVER VOTE FOR WOKE!!!

Obvious answer Saeed, Donald Trump.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

I have many reasons.

But, I'll give one example.

This is a example of the way Rightists think - all the time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...9095e9f896a45&ei=179

Paving paradise: the controversial plan to develop protected Florida state parks

Biologist and wildlife television host Jeff Corwin speaks with MSNBC’s Alex Witt about his concerns over Florida governor Ron DeSantis’s administration plans to build golf courses and hotels at nine state parks.

Drill baby Drill

There are places in Florida that are sparsely populated and have parks and wildlife management areas, and other undeveloped spaces. The land is not the best for development. That's why the heavy development is elsewhere. But greed is rampant.

It's often referred to as Old Florida. There are several nice small towns in the area, some with good city-maintained campgrounds. The area I'm talking about is between Apalachicola and roughly Tampa on the west coast. It's beautiful there, lots of good fishing, not too many people. Econfina State Park is a good example.

https://www.floridastateparks....ina-river-state-park

https://www.google.com/maps/di...IKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

https://youtu.be/wPHILcl9IXM?si=S2elXve7w2ZvKu5a

https://youtu.be/qqyVxpFUgtw?si=mTYMKcqX8TX_dP1P

Here's an example of the small towns. This whole Gulf Coast area is referred to as the Nature Coast for a reason.

https://youtu.be/AVKQ9-ONfAE?si=Mk_GcLFrawhuQrH5

Gems of the Nature Coast: Ozello

https://youtu.be/kzpd74-dFkw?si=HKH76w5hA8v52QZu
Ozello, FL

https://www.google.com/maps/di...IKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Also, this area is north of the zone afflicted with the red tide out of lake Okeechobee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Okeechobee

https://captainsforcleanwater....red-tide-study-2022/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/trav...d5a0bb7102dfd3&ei=69

Florida Governor STOPS Plans To Build Hotels, Pickleball Courts, and Golf Courses on State Park Land
Story by Jenny Kim • 1d

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

They aren't Republicans. When Republicans are endorsing plans to implement fascism in the United States like Project 2025 nobody has to be perfect, not being Republican and effectively keeping Republicans from gaining power is enough.

Do a thought experiment: Imagine the Democratic Party simply folded tomorrow, went completely out of business and left Republicans in charge. Within a very few months the United States would resemble 1938 Germany far more than anything the Constitution ever intended.

Flip it, and have the Republican Party cease to exist, leaving power to the Democrats. By Tuesday they will have fractured into at least three competing Parties and governing will proceed as compromise between those Parties will allow, pretty much as it's supposed to work.

I good reason never to vote Republican id 450 Fuller’s most recent thread. However, I still believe most republicans reject such unilateralism. The fact the GOP is being led off a cliff by a minority notwithstanding.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...d441c2bb4a7fd0&ei=97

Project 2025 plans to shield rightwing extremism will lead to ‘vigilante violence’

Recent reports show an alarming surge in extremist infiltration within police and military ranks. National security experts warn that these elements could become a powder keg, particularly if faced with a contested election or a second Trump term. One such report out of Florida found that Ku Klux Klan members were being actively recruited to join the local police force. Despite the rising threat of domestic rightwing extremism, Project 2025 appears poised to protect these groups by shielding them from government scrutiny and downplaying their threat as "manufactured." Former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade cautions, “If the FBI shrugs its shoulders to these things, or enables these things, we’re going to see more of it – and it’s a danger to public safety and democracy.”

So what I am hearing from the liberals here, they hate Donald Trump so much, they would rather elect a socialist/communist Democratic ticket that threatens the very existence of the country. Did I get that right?

The way I see it, electing someone who tried to undermine our election process is the real threat to the existence of our country.

Donald Trump belongs behind bars for his actions related to trying to steal the 2020 election.

In my opinion, no, you did not get that right.

quote:

Originally posted by lavaca:
So what I am hearing from the liberals here, they hate Donald Trump so much, they would rather elect a socialist/communist Democratic ticket that threatens the very existence of the country. Did I get that right?

The fact that you believe that is really the threat to the country.

First - it's not about hating Trump. Second - the socialist/communist belief is a figment.

The belief in a figment is the threat.

The alternative to your figment is fascism as the remedy.

quote:

Originally posted by Kensco:
Obvious answer Saeed, Donald Trump.

I agree.

But the trouble is whoever you lot are offering are miles WORSE than that idiot!

My American friends 6 year old son would do a much better job than any of your stupid lot!

Bloody hell!

You have been voting for Pelosi for so many years, what hope does anyone have of your intelligence!

quote:

But the trouble is whoever you lot are offering are miles WORSE than that idiot!

You have never been more wrong

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...441c2bb4a7fd0&ei=119

"Organized conspiracy": Experts warn Trump allies on Georgia election board are "sowing chaos"
Story by Marina Villeneuve • 1d • 6 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...441c2bb4a7fd0&ei=135

How the “J6 Awards Gala” could hurt Trump’s legal defense: Former federal prosecutor explains

Former President Donald Trump has filed a new motion to appeal the judgment in his New York civil fraud conviction as Special Counsel Jack Smith seeks to speed up the January 6 case. Former lead investigator for the January 6th committee Tim Heaphy breaks down the status of Trump’s legal entanglements.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...441c2bb4a7fd0&ei=189

Jan. 6 'awards' set to be held at Trump's New Jersey golf club

A nonprofit called Stand in the Gap, which financially supports Jan. 6 defendants, is hosting what it calls the "J6 Awards Gala" on Sept. 5.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...441c2bb4a7fd0&ei=221

‘This was a terrible idea’: the incident that broke Republicans’ DeSantis fever
Story by Richard Luscombe in Miami • 1d • 5 min read

https://youtu.be/W2S-YSJMOYE?si=3RrO6xuUqkQDQ6Cx

DeSantis distances himself from controversial state parks proposal: 'It was not approved by me'

https://youtu.be/OAWWXEHEkTY?si=_fbtHURptaRnArtE

FDEP withdraws all proposed amendments to state park

https://youtu.be/ct1z-08VwzQ?si=wpPP_p--bqMhH142

Gov. DeSantis responds to Florida state park controversy

https://youtu.be/D_WN4b9Sm5E?si=1tCEgw7Cm72K6-Ff

'Wildly inappropriate': Florida lawmaker describes proposed developments inside state parks

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

They aren't Republicans. When Republicans are endorsing plans to implement fascism in the United States like Project 2025 nobody has to be perfect, not being Republican and effectively keeping Republicans from gaining power is enough.

Do a thought experiment: Imagine the Democratic Party simply folded tomorrow, went completely out of business and left Republicans in charge. Within a very few months the United States would resemble 1938 Germany far more than anything the Constitution ever intended.

Flip it, and have the Republican Party cease to exist, leaving power to the Democrats. By Tuesday they will have fractured into at least three competing Parties and governing will proceed as compromise between those Parties will allow, pretty much as it's supposed to work.

If that’s what you truly believe, aren’t you morally bound to lie cheat and steal to keep “Hitler” out of office?

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

They aren't Republicans. When Republicans are endorsing plans to implement fascism in the United States like Project 2025 nobody has to be perfect, not being Republican and effectively keeping Republicans from gaining power is enough.

Do a thought experiment: Imagine the Democratic Party simply folded tomorrow, went completely out of business and left Republicans in charge. Within a very few months the United States would resemble 1938 Germany far more than anything the Constitution ever intended.

Flip it, and have the Republican Party cease to exist, leaving power to the Democrats. By Tuesday they will have fractured into at least three competing Parties and governing will proceed as compromise between those Parties will allow, pretty much as it's supposed to work.

If that’s what you truly believe, aren’t you morally bound to lie cheat and steal to keep “Hitler” out of office?

I am not morally bound to lie, cheat or steal for any purpose, not being either a Christian nor a Republican I am morally bound NOT to do those things.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://youtu.be/W2S-YSJMOYE?si=3RrO6xuUqkQDQ6Cx

DeSantis distances himself from controversial state parks proposal: 'It was not approved by me'

https://youtu.be/OAWWXEHEkTY?si=_fbtHURptaRnArtE

FDEP withdraws all proposed amendments to state park

https://youtu.be/ct1z-08VwzQ?si=wpPP_p--bqMhH142

Gov. DeSantis responds to Florida state park controversy

https://youtu.be/D_WN4b9Sm5E?si=1tCEgw7Cm72K6-Ff

'Wildly inappropriate': Florida lawmaker describes proposed developments inside state parks

He's a Republican, what his payoff was going to be will eventually come out.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

They aren't Republicans. When Republicans are endorsing plans to implement fascism in the United States like Project 2025 nobody has to be perfect, not being Republican and effectively keeping Republicans from gaining power is enough.

Do a thought experiment: Imagine the Democratic Party simply folded tomorrow, went completely out of business and left Republicans in charge. Within a very few months the United States would resemble 1938 Germany far more than anything the Constitution ever intended.

Flip it, and have the Republican Party cease to exist, leaving power to the Democrats. By Tuesday they will have fractured into at least three competing Parties and governing will proceed as compromise between those Parties will allow, pretty much as it's supposed to work.

If that’s what you truly believe, aren’t you morally bound to lie cheat and steal to keep “Hitler” out of office?

I am not morally bound to lie, cheat or steal for any purpose, not being either a Christian nor a Republican I am morally bound NOT to do those things.

You figure all folks are Angels?

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Can you give us one, just ONE, good reason to vote democrat??

They aren't Republicans. When Republicans are endorsing plans to implement fascism in the United States like Project 2025 nobody has to be perfect, not being Republican and effectively keeping Republicans from gaining power is enough.

Do a thought experiment: Imagine the Democratic Party simply folded tomorrow, went completely out of business and left Republicans in charge. Within a very few months the United States would resemble 1938 Germany far more than anything the Constitution ever intended.

Flip it, and have the Republican Party cease to exist, leaving power to the Democrats. By Tuesday they will have fractured into at least three competing Parties and governing will proceed as compromise between those Parties will allow, pretty much as it's supposed to work.

If that’s what you truly believe, aren’t you morally bound to lie cheat and steal to keep “Hitler” out of office?

I am not morally bound to lie, cheat or steal for any purpose, not being either a Christian nor a Republican I am morally bound NOT to do those things.

You figure all folks are Angels?

You didn't ask me about all folks.

I know that, on average, a modern Republican, since Trump took over the Party, is apparently perfectly willing to lie, cheat or steal to gain power.

Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

I said I'm not willing to lie, cheat or steal, that was the question.

Magine,

Did you teach Kamala word salad or did she teach you? You are both very good at it.

Question is, did the Democrat voters teach the republicans to be stupid?

Or did the republicans teach the democrats to be stupid?

Their voting records are very similar!

Trump or Kamala??

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

Trump is no Hitler, more like PT Barnum. I certainly have no desire to see him killed, locked up for his crimes would please me to no end though.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

I said I'm not willing to lie, cheat or steal, that was the question.

Fair enough, now stop with the bullshit claims of fascism and Nazi’s. Only one party installed their candidate without vote. Only one party repeatedly tries to remove the opposition by hook or crook. Only one party is threatened by free speech.

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

I said I'm not willing to lie, cheat or steal, that was the question.

Fair enough, now stop with the bullshit claims of fascism and Nazi’s. Only one party installed their candidate without vote. Only one party repeatedly tries to remove the opposition by hook or crook. Only one party is threatened by free speech.

Project 2025, put together by former and current Trump staffers and advisors, is a clear blueprint for American fascism.

Kamala Harris got the only votes that matter to her Party's nomination, a clear majority of delegates at the convention. Primary voters do not vote for a candidate, they vote for delegates, very much like the Electoral College you Republicans like so well when you can use it to win without getting more votes, like Trump did.

As for your "hook or crook" bullshit, holding elective office does not confer immunity for criminal acts on anybody, no matter what a corrupt majority of the Supreme Court says. "No man is above the Law" was a founding principle of this Country, a key distinction from every monarchy we wanted to be unlike.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

I said I'm not willing to lie, cheat or steal, that was the question.

Fair enough, now stop with the bullshit claims of fascism and Nazi’s. Only one party installed their candidate without vote. Only one party repeatedly tries to remove the opposition by hook or crook. Only one party is threatened by free speech.

Project 2025, blah blah blah

denied by trump -- get over it, sweetheart, fifi--

crazy people say crazy things.... reference fifi's 1ST amendment rights ..

i guess when YOUR candidate steals "orange man bad" policies, that you have to make stuff up

meanwhile we have
ministry of truth censorship
wide open borders -- no wait, biden said " let's get back to the former admin's policies"
loses 54,00 kids
and wants to end taxes on tips
oh, yeah, and 30k illegals in NYC is a huge burden, but millions in Texas are just "playing politics"

oh, yeah, and "antifa is a myth" and "cheap fakes" showing unedited clips


honey, i guess you need your safe spaces .. it's okay ..

the sad thing is your vote counts the same as actually informed voters .. but you do you, boo ..

say, how's nurse rachet doing?

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
Apparently the left is willing to kill. And who wouldn’t shoot Hitler in 1932? Dead and buried just like the op, right?

Trump is no Hitler, more like PT Barnum. I certainly have no desire to see him killed, locked up for his crimes would please me to no end though.

Underestimate trump at your own peril.

You've seen the cult level of support here.

The orange turd is certainly someone to be warry of, as is his cult of sycophant followers. That said, I don't think he is capable of mass murder or ethnic cleansing, nor do I believe that he wants to take over another country.

A nutter for sure, not Hitler though.

I think way too many are underestimating Trump(ism).

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/19...ant-to-buy-greenland

No Joke: Trump Really Does Want To Buy Greenland
August 19, 20192:32 AM ET

https://www.newsweek.com/donal...nd-once-more-1878583

Donald Trump Could Try to Buy Greenland Once More
Published Mar 13, 2024 at 5:00 AM EDT
Updated Mar 13, 2024 at 6:15 AM EDT

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/1....html?smid=url-share

Trump Wanted to Fire Missiles at Mexico. Now the G.O.P. Wants to Send Troops.
The Republican push to use military force in Mexico against drug cartels started in the Trump White House. He has plans to make the idea a reality in 2025.

https://www.rollingstone.com/p...-cartels-1235016514/

Trump Is Planning to Send Kill Teams to Mexico to Take Out Cartel Leaders
Donald Trump has told allies about his plans to covertly send Special Forces to Mexico to assassinate drug kingpins, sources tell Rolling Stone

By Asawin Suebsaeng
May 7, 2024

https://www.politico.com/news/...-trump-term-00164517

Trump’s Plan for NATO Is Emerging
Trump advisers envision a ‘radical reorientation’ in which Washington takes a back seat to Europe — and cuts a deal with Putin over Ukraine.

Then there's the detention camps and use of the military on illegal immigrants. We can easily imagine how far that will go.

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Then this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...abc7916fa7e5a1&ei=59

Florida whistleblower fired after releasing DeSantis admin. plan to add golf courses and hotels to state parks
Story by Sindy Nanclares • 18h • 2 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...e677cd09807352&ei=41

US disinformation researcher laments 'incredible witch hunt'
Story by AFP • 12h • 3 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0c93ea2f6ff2b4&ei=20

Trump announces horrifying new job for Elon Musk if elected
Story by Ja'han Jones • 7h • 2 min read

Donald Trump’s plot to virtually hand control of the government to his rich financiers if he’s elected came into clearer view Thursday when he said he would tap Elon Musk (of all people) to run a new agency focused on government “efficiency.”

“I will create a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government,” he said during a speech at the Economic Club of New York, adding Musk has “agreed to head that task force.”

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/...s-over-200k-37716533

GoFundMe for Florida whistleblower fired after leaking DeSantis' state park plans reaches over $200K
Many people made anonymous contributions to the single father who worked for the state for 12 years
By Jim Turner, the News Service of Florida on Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 11:34 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...d023805ca60d45&ei=28

Elon Musk now controls two thirds of all active satellites
Story by Anthony Cuthbertson • 7h • 2 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...d023805ca60d45&ei=82

Alarm grows over possible RFK Jr. role at HHS if Trump wins
Story by Hanna Trudo • 14h • 5 min read

quote:

Originally posted by lavaca:
So what I am hearing from the liberals here, they hate Donald Trump so much, they would rather elect a socialist/communist Democratic ticket that threatens the very existence of the country. Did I get that right?

Yes! Yes you did!


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Mangina.....you have no opinions...or active brain cells.....only cut and paste.....

Poor old woman!