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Spot on correct. At what point do the American people say "Enough"?

And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


President Trump is once again weaponizing the legal system to fulfill his personal vendettas. Last year, before he could point to a single crime that he claimed she had committed, Mr. Trump called for the prosecution of New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who was suing him for fraudulent business dealing. On Thursday the Justice Department secured an indictment against Ms. James, alleging bank fraud.

The story behind the indictment says it all. A federal prosecutor decided recently that there was not enough evidence to bring charges against Ms. James. In a normal administration, that would have been the end of the case. But Mr. Trump did not take no for an answer. He forced that prosecutor’s resignation and in a social media post last month demanded that Attorney General Pam Bondi appoint a new prosecutor: Lindsey Halligan, a Trump ally and insurance lawyer who had never prosecuted a case.

He also demanded that Ms. Halligan pursue charges against both Ms. James and James Comey, the former director of the F.B.I. “They impeached me twice, and indicted me (5 times!), OVER NOTHING,” Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!” At Ms. Halligan’s request, a grand jury indicted Mr. Comey on Sept. 25 and then Ms. James.

The charges relate to mortgage paperwork that Ms. James filed when she bought a house in Virginia in 2020. Previous prosecutors did not find sufficient evidence that Ms. James was knowingly dishonest, and legal experts say the charges are flimsy at best. Even if the Justice Department ultimately loses in court, the legal fight will demand Ms. James’s time and money. It signals to politicians and the public that opposing the president has a cost, including the explicit threat of imprisonment.

Mr. Trump and his supporters claim that Democrats started this era of “lawfare” with their investigations into him. Yet those investigations were vastly different. Special counsels, chosen to operate more independently than typical prosecutors, carried out the federal inquiries into Mr. Trump. One special counsel during the Biden administration even investigated Joe Biden himself for his handling of classified documents. And the investigations into Mr. Trump came in response to his alarming actions, not dubious claims of mortgage problems but efforts to overturn the outcome of a presidential election. The investigations followed a potential crime, not a personal vendetta.

America is now in a dangerous period, in which the president can order investigations and indictments against his enemies. Mr. Trump is criminalizing Americans’ ability to challenge their leaders.

In the popular imagination, the state’s infringement on individual liberty is usually the work of spies or the military. But few branches of government have the power to take away our freedoms that the Justice Department does. It can ask courts to put you in prison, mark your life with a criminal record and, even if you are found not guilty, tie you up in yearslong legal battles that drain your finances and destroy your personal standing. “The prosecutor has more control over life, liberty and reputation than any other person in America,” former Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson said when he served as attorney general.

Cognizant of these concerns, presidents since Watergate have mostly tried to insulate the Justice Department from politics. The system has not been perfect, but it has mostly worked. Americans have generally trusted the federal government to avoid sham prosecutions.

Mr. Trump has eroded this system from within. His replacement of a career prosecutor with a crony is only one example. He has staffed the Justice Department and the F.B.I. with loyalists. His administration has pushed out lawyers who investigated misconduct and corruption. He has tried to punish law firms that represent his political opponents. He has repeatedly warned officials, sometimes in public social media posts, that they should not go against him. He has sent a message that federal law enforcement’s main concern should be not the country’s laws or the Constitution but his personal interests.

Just as telling as the cases Mr. Trump’s Justice Department has initiated are those it has dropped. This year the department closed an investigation into Tom Homan, the president’s so-called border czar, even though he was recorded accepting a bag of $50,000 in cash by undercover F.B.I. agents.

Many legal experts have spoken out. “These political prosecutions need to stop,” wrote Richard Painter, who was a White House ethics lawyer under George W. Bush, after Ms. James was indicted. He called for an impeachment inquiry into Ms. Bondi. Most Republicans, however, have remained quiet, fearful of the president.

Mr. Comey and Ms. James’s indictments may be just the beginning. Mr. Trump has also demanded the prosecution of one of his most prominent Democratic opponents, Senator Adam Schiff of California. He posted on social media this week that Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois and Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago should go to jail for opposing his mass deportation efforts. His Justice Department has proved all too willing to turn such social media posts, no matter how baseless, into indictments.

The damage is not just to Mr. Comey, Ms. James and anyone else who is prosecuted. It is also to the foundations of American democracy and law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/1...ndictment-trump.html



 
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i think the followers of the cult of the supreme leader are not seeing the light yet ...
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


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Two wrongs ... etc.

A nations justice system should be completely separate and independent of its elected officials.

If the justice system has been abused by a previous administration in any way, arrange for an independent or non partisan investigation and recommendations on how to prevent it happening again.

That surely is what is best for the country, rather than the use of the justice system to vindictively settle personal scores.

The justice system should be apolitical.
 
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Partisan prosecutions, pardons, investigations are appalling. That any side, and especially my side can look us in the eye and give me the, "they do it to/ they did it first!" routine is jaw dropping.

In the short term, I see no reason for any sensible person to serve in public office, not an attorney, not an officer, not a run of the mill bureaucrat. Why would anyone risk reputation, family, life and liberty to serve a government and people who advocate this kind of snake behavior?

In the long term I am doubting American survival. It's accepted policy now to take partisan revenge, its said plainly in this discussion.
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


You have shit for brains, you stupid, brainwashed pile of shit.
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


You have shit for brains, you stupid, brainwashed pile of shit.


you cannot say so ... he is a great man ... he doesnt know what he is saying nor thinking. please forgive him for his sins lol ...
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


You have shit for brains, you stupid, brainwashed pile of shit.


From the man (using the term loosely) that has never made an intelligent contributory post on AR that I am aware of. A man who enjoys a computer shield. LDO middlefinger


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


You have shit for brains, you stupid, brainwashed pile of shit.


From the man (using the term loosely) that has never made an intelligent contributory post on AR that I am aware of. A man who enjoys a computer shield. LDO middlefinger


What Lane said.... tosser...
 
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Spot on correct. At what point do the American people say "Enough"?

And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


President Trump is once again weaponizing the legal system to fulfill his personal vendettas. Last year, before he could point to a single crime that he claimed she had committed, Mr. Trump called for the prosecution of New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who was suing him for fraudulent business dealing. On Thursday the Justice Department secured an indictment against Ms. James, alleging bank fraud.

The story behind the indictment says it all. A federal prosecutor decided recently that there was not enough evidence to bring charges against Ms. James. In a normal administration, that would have been the end of the case. But Mr. Trump did not take no for an answer. He forced that prosecutor’s resignation and in a social media post last month demanded that Attorney General Pam Bondi appoint a new prosecutor: Lindsey Halligan, a Trump ally and insurance lawyer who had never prosecuted a case.

He also demanded that Ms. Halligan pursue charges against both Ms. James and James Comey, the former director of the F.B.I. “They impeached me twice, and indicted me (5 times!), OVER NOTHING,” Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!” At Ms. Halligan’s request, a grand jury indicted Mr. Comey on Sept. 25 and then Ms. James.

The charges relate to mortgage paperwork that Ms. James filed when she bought a house in Virginia in 2020. Previous prosecutors did not find sufficient evidence that Ms. James was knowingly dishonest, and legal experts say the charges are flimsy at best. Even if the Justice Department ultimately loses in court, the legal fight will demand Ms. James’s time and money. It signals to politicians and the public that opposing the president has a cost, including the explicit threat of imprisonment.

Mr. Trump and his supporters claim that Democrats started this era of “lawfare” with their investigations into him. Yet those investigations were vastly different. Special counsels, chosen to operate more independently than typical prosecutors, carried out the federal inquiries into Mr. Trump. One special counsel during the Biden administration even investigated Joe Biden himself for his handling of classified documents. And the investigations into Mr. Trump came in response to his alarming actions, not dubious claims of mortgage problems but efforts to overturn the outcome of a presidential election. The investigations followed a potential crime, not a personal vendetta.

America is now in a dangerous period, in which the president can order investigations and indictments against his enemies. Mr. Trump is criminalizing Americans’ ability to challenge their leaders.

In the popular imagination, the state’s infringement on individual liberty is usually the work of spies or the military. But few branches of government have the power to take away our freedoms that the Justice Department does. It can ask courts to put you in prison, mark your life with a criminal record and, even if you are found not guilty, tie you up in yearslong legal battles that drain your finances and destroy your personal standing. “The prosecutor has more control over life, liberty and reputation than any other person in America,” former Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson said when he served as attorney general.

Cognizant of these concerns, presidents since Watergate have mostly tried to insulate the Justice Department from politics. The system has not been perfect, but it has mostly worked. Americans have generally trusted the federal government to avoid sham prosecutions.

Mr. Trump has eroded this system from within. His replacement of a career prosecutor with a crony is only one example. He has staffed the Justice Department and the F.B.I. with loyalists. His administration has pushed out lawyers who investigated misconduct and corruption. He has tried to punish law firms that represent his political opponents. He has repeatedly warned officials, sometimes in public social media posts, that they should not go against him. He has sent a message that federal law enforcement’s main concern should be not the country’s laws or the Constitution but his personal interests.

Just as telling as the cases Mr. Trump’s Justice Department has initiated are those it has dropped. This year the department closed an investigation into Tom Homan, the president’s so-called border czar, even though he was recorded accepting a bag of $50,000 in cash by undercover F.B.I. agents.

Many legal experts have spoken out. “These political prosecutions need to stop,” wrote Richard Painter, who was a White House ethics lawyer under George W. Bush, after Ms. James was indicted. He called for an impeachment inquiry into Ms. Bondi. Most Republicans, however, have remained quiet, fearful of the president.

Mr. Comey and Ms. James’s indictments may be just the beginning. Mr. Trump has also demanded the prosecution of one of his most prominent Democratic opponents, Senator Adam Schiff of California. He posted on social media this week that Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois and Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago should go to jail for opposing his mass deportation efforts. His Justice Department has proved all too willing to turn such social media posts, no matter how baseless, into indictments.

The damage is not just to Mr. Comey, Ms. James and anyone else who is prosecuted. It is also to the foundations of American democracy and law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/1...ndictment-trump.html



We did say "enough" when those criminals working for Sleepy Joe got voted out. Now it is time to pay the piper for not buying a pardon from idiot Joe.....

When Idiot Joe weaponized our justice system to attack Trump and the Jan 6 folks, that was "enough".

Sleepy Joe, Crooked Hillary and the village idiot Kamalalalala should be held accountable for their crimes too...
 
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Go Trump is all I have to say in this OP
He is the rock, Dems are breaking against


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


You can't refute the truths in the op/ed so you attack me. You've turned into a pathetic troll.



 
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I refute everything in the op ed. Dems started it and need a little hammering to hopefully get things back to normal. Remember, an op ed is an opinion. This is a poor one.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I refute everything in the op ed. Dems started it and need a little hammering to hopefully get things back to normal. Remember, an op ed is an opinion. This is a poor one.


Again, I am certain you are enamored of your own recitations regarding what is true and what is not....but, nobody else is.

And, by the way...."I refute this" doesn't qualify as a refutation. You've been listening to trump too long.

ref·u·ta·tion
/ˌrefyəˈtāSHən/
noun
the action of proving a statement or theory to be wrong or false.



 
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Last year, before he could point to a single crime that he claimed she had committed, Mr. Trump called for the prosecution of New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who was suing him for fraudulent business dealing.

She did that very thing before he.



Editorial board of NYTs… barf


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ledvm:
[QUOTE]Last year, before he could point to a single crime that he claimed she had committed, Mr. Trump called for the prosecution of New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who was suing him for fraudulent business dealing.

She did that very thing before he.

You mean the illegal things he was doing that resulted in a trial by jury and a conviction? After a jury heard all the evidence? Those fraudulent business dealings?

You're blinded by your partisanship. Imagine Obama calling for the criminal prosecution of his political enemies. You would have had a stroke. What trump is doing is an assault on democracy. A continued assault. It started with his lies about election fraud resulting in J6 and it continues today while he uses the United States Department of Justice as his personal weapon of revenge.

Now, that is something worth barf over.



 
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Please provide evidence.

IIRC the Republicans weaponised the DOJ with Ken Starr and his hounding of Bill Clinton. THAT was first blood.

On the other hand Republican claimed loss of memory about illegal arms and drug deals when Bush sr was involved.


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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
 
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I’m with Scott on this one.

I do think the boundaries were pushed first by the democrats, and Ms James making all the statements that she did about Trump shows that.

Regardless, it is wrong that Trump is pressuring the DOJ on prosecutions.

While some jurisdictions (Minnesota is one) have elections for judges, that should be the limit for politics in the judicial system.

Politics in justice are not new though, and undoubtedly never will go away entirely.
 
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And, to those of you who claim the Dems have done the same, maybe this op/ed will help you understand why you're wrong.


Anyone who can even think that is just plain old dumb and not worth reading.

100% Democrats have done it and drew first blood. To even think otherwise is moronic. But look at the OPer.


There ya go! A prime example of a cult addled mind - refuse to read the data while denying its veracity out of hand, and then throw in an aphorism to clinch the deal.
Does it get any more tragic than that?
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Go Trump is all I have to say in this OP
He is the rock, Dems are breaking against


Yep! They are losing in every way.
 
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I’m with Scott on this one.

I do think the boundaries were pushed first by the democrats, and Ms James making all the statements that she did about Trump shows that.

Regardless, it is wrong that Trump is pressuring the DOJ on prosecutions.

While some jurisdictions (Minnesota is one) have elections for judges, that should be the limit for politics in the judicial system.

Politics in justice are not new though, and undoubtedly never will go away entirely.


You really think James speaks for the Democrats? When did the party appoint her spokesperson?
 
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Did or did not James campaign on getting Trump?

She is a democrat, and the party did not publicly disavow her statements.

Does she speak for every democrat? No.

That Hochul put up the state on the line for her legal fees says what?
 
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The NY intermediate appellate court did uphold the fraud finding.

Here ALJs are appointed by the Governor. I have been inside that process. It is no less political than elections.
 
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Did or did not James campaign on getting Trump?


She did! She campaigned on finding a violation and prosecuting for it. That is the epitome of lawfare. Anyone who thinks differently…is just plain stupid.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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She campaigned on finding a violation and prosecuting for it.



I know better than to believe you. Where is the proof for what you claim?
 
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by that logic you yourself must be a self confessed stupid person! Wink

Trump campaigned on prosecuting Hillary long before James. Remember?

So - once again - who started the lawfare & weaponising the DOJ?



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Did or did not James campaign on getting Trump?


She did! She campaigned on finding a violation and prosecuting for it. That is the epitome of lawfare. Anyone who thinks differently…is just plain stupid.


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Who started lawfare?
Go back to 1798 and the Alien and Sedition Acts.
 
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Who started lawfare?
Go back to 1798 and the Alien and Sedition Acts.


I did the same search. Goes back to forever.



 
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Trump campaigned on prosecuting Hillary long before James. Remember?


But he didn’t.

Further, he at least had knowledge (we all did) that she had broken the law.

Big Tish campaigned on it…then had to go find a violation to prosecute. She manufactured one in which there was NO injured party. The lending institution testified that it was perfectly happy with the loan.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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There was no evidence against Hillary. The private server was not worth prosecuting. But Trump's crimes regarding Top Secret documents are a million times worse.

James found evidence. All American tax payers were victims as Trump's fraud hurt every tax payer.


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Trump campaigned on prosecuting Hillary long before James. Remember?


But he didn’t.

Further, he at least had knowledge (we all did) that she had broken the law.

Big Tish campaigned on it…then had to go find a violation to prosecute. She manufactured one in which there was NO injured party. The lending institution testified that it was perfectly happy with the loan.


"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
 
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Is that why the appeals court reduced the fine to zero? rotflmo


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Penalty and liability are two different concepts.

The face tendons the finding of fraud was upheld.
 
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Evidence of corrupt Judiciary. They could not justify quashing the conviction though. He is still a convicted felon. A criminal fraudster.

And you support a fraudster! Roll Eyes

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Is that why the appeals court reduced the fine to zero? rotflmo


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