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Originally posted by medved:
it might not to bad for kentucky and tennessee it is only $1.4 billions that are not going into their economy just from ontario bc and ... someone told us here we are just a drop in usa economy ... alcohol is no anymore coming from usa to canada ... again who is the idiot? im sorry for the ones that did not vote for this but the others too bad ... and i do not care i do not drink alcohol lol

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Originally posted by medved:
thank you crbutler to proofing my points.

we learnt within few weeks that the signature of your country means nothing will it be for budapest treaty (treaty is not a joke) of NAFTA 2.0 that your actual president negotiated and signed then renegated ...
It isn’t a treaty until the senate ratifies it. If you want to denounce someone regarding it, why not Barack Obama who was president when Ukraine was invaded the first time and only levied economic sanctions? Somehow you were silent on this until Trump.

for the war and lands seizure of ukraine from russia seems you have no problem with it either if you are getting a deal on some minerals ...
I’m not the president. I didn’t vote for either Trump or Harris. Sure, I would do things differently, but my democratically elected president is doing what he feels best. Not much I or anyone else here can say.

despite your long sentences your president therefore your country is siding with putin (that was the enemy of nato).
NATO is an alliance against aggression against fellow members. There is NO requirement for members to fight other wars per the treaty.

thank you as well to tell us the sacrifices of soldiers in afghanistan was vain from foreign armies and on that you are siding with your corporal (should remind you last time a corporal was in reign few decades ago).
What corporal are you talking about?

As to the soldiers who died, it was a justifiable war, and I honor them and thank them for their sacrifice. I agree that the soldiers who died defending us died for no real purpose at this point except maybe to tell terrorist havens that we do not tolerate their behavior indefinitely.

My point was the other NATO nations didn’t go to deficit spending and austerity economies over support of the Afghan or Iraq wars.


it is interesting to read the trupm supporters not thinking farther and just on the minute coming ...
I fear that is the case.

your self isolationnism will not do good ... for your country ...
However, spending that which we don’t have isn’t good either. See the UK and the USSR.

look up 3 states on monday will receive an increase of 25% for their electricity coming from us, you know the country you need nothing ...

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Originally posted by crbutler:

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Originally posted by medved:
thank you crbutler to proofing my points.

we learnt within few weeks that the signature of your country means nothing will it be for budapest treaty (treaty is not a joke) of NAFTA 2.0 that your actual president negotiated and signed then renegated ...
It isn’t a treaty until the senate ratifies it. If you want to denounce someone regarding it, why not Barack Obama who was president when Ukraine was invaded the first time and only levied economic sanctions? Somehow you were silent on this until Trump.

for the war and lands seizure of ukraine from russia seems you have no problem with it either if you are getting a deal on some minerals ...
I’m not the president. I didn’t vote for either Trump or Harris. Sure, I would do things differently, but my democratically elected president is doing what he feels best. Not much I or anyone else here can say.

despite your long sentences your president therefore your country is siding with putin (that was the enemy of nato).
NATO is an alliance against aggression against fellow members. There is NO requirement for members to fight other wars per the treaty.

thank you as well to tell us the sacrifices of soldiers in afghanistan was vain from foreign armies and on that you are siding with your corporal (should remind you last time a corporal was in reign few decades ago).
What corporal are you talking about?

As to the soldiers who died, it was a justifiable war, and I honor them and thank them for their sacrifice. I agree that the soldiers who died defending us died for no real purpose at this point except maybe to tell terrorist havens that we do not tolerate their behavior indefinitely.

My point was the other NATO nations didn’t go to deficit spending and austerity economies over support of the Afghan or Iraq wars.


it is interesting to read the trupm supporters not thinking farther and just on the minute coming ...
I fear that is the case.

your self isolationnism will not do good ... for your country ...
However, spending that which we don’t have isn’t good either. See the UK and the USSR.

look up 3 states on monday will receive an increase of 25% for their electricity coming from us, you know the country you need nothing ...

It’s certainly in the rights of Canada to do so. I do think your country is not particularly acting like the adult here and is behaving just like Trump is. The idea of reciprocal tariffs is what? Good? Bad? Unfair?

I get that Trump is behaving like a petulant child or a schoolyard bully, and I find it bad… but Trudeau has been behaving that way for longer than Trump (because he’s been there longer), and now it’s all on the US?

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I get that Trump is behaving like a petulant child or a schoolyard bully, and I find it bad… but Trudeau has been behaving that way for longer than Trump (because he’s been there longer), and now it’s all on the US?

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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I get that Trump is behaving like a petulant child or a schoolyard bully, and I find it bad… but Trudeau has been behaving that way for longer than Trump (because he’s been there longer), and now it’s all on the US?

Can you illustrate even one single instance of Canada abrogating the USMCA Agreement?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
All I can say is that I am so pleased that the most popular topic on the board right now, by far, is "Trump is an idiot"

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Originally posted by crbutler:
A simple internet review shows that Canada's tariff rates are substantially higher than the US's.

Canada has substantial tariffs on ag goods that are one of the major (at least from where I am from) US exports. Canada has long had protectionist trade policies. The USMCA did not eliminate tariffs, albeit it did lower them and standardize things.

While that has been the case for decades and is nothing new, for you to get all pope-holy about how you were "attacked" by another country playing the same protectionist games shows ignorance of that. I have no complaints with my country applying true reciprocal tariffs. Don't want tariffs? Get rid of yours and we will have none of ours...

Do I think Trump is using tariffs as a big stick to force compliance? Yes.

Is it the way this nation should do business? No.

However, the way things worked in his first term shows to some extent why he is trying to force things as opposed to trying to do things the right way. Everything he tried to do was obstructed and no permanent effects were made. That's an explanation in my mind what he's doing it, even if I don't agree with him doing it.

As to attacking, well, I agree with you that Trump's "joke" about the 51st state and all of that was very unpresidential and in poor taste. I am not in the least bit offended by you and your countrymen taking offense from it. If my personal apology has any meaning, you have it.

As to siding with Russia, I can certainly see why folks say that although I also can see that Trump hasn't actually sided with Russia or Putin by policy yet... he's distanced us from Ukraine and has repeatedly offended our allies.

Regarding Vance, OK now I see what you are saying there. I had heard he had served as a Public Information Officer in Iraq and since he's a lawyer and all, assumed he was a commissioned officer at some point. I thought you were referring to Trump (and he probably held some sort of cadet rank at some point which is meaningless) who never held any rank in the US military.

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Originally posted by MLindsay:
It seems that many on here are complaining about the tariffs Trump is planning to put in place however, they skip over the tariffs that Canada places on U.S. products or the many countries that have very high tariffs on U.S. goods. So, their tariffs are fine and the U.S. should pay them and be quiet but we can not try and level the playing field

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://youtube.com/shorts/9v-...?si=RV5bRK5URZpIJ1lI

Is Trump a Russian Asset?

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Originally posted by shankspony:
I dont know if you guys in the states are seeing it or not, but outside the US in the 5 eyes nations and Europe, there's quite some talk that the US can no longer be trusted with information sharing.
For two reasons, A he's an asset, or B he is a useful idiot who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Also, the ability of Putin and Trump to divide the USA from or North American continental ally, Canada is a founding member of NATO, and our Western European allies in a couple of months. A feat the Soviet Union could not accomplish.

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I dont know if you guys in the states are seeing it or not, but outside the US in the 5 eyes nations and Europe, there's quite some talk that the US can no longer be trusted with information sharing.
For two reasons, A he's an asset, or B he is a useful idiot who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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I dont know if you guys in the states are seeing it or not, but outside the US in the 5 eyes nations and Europe, there's quite some talk that the US can no longer be trusted with information sharing.
For two reasons, A he's an asset, or B he is a useful idiot who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

This not being reported in the U.S. that I have seen.

I would love to see Dr. Easter’s response to that assuming truth.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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I get that Trump is behaving like a petulant child or a schoolyard bully, and I find it bad… but Trudeau has been behaving that way for longer than Trump (because he’s been there longer), and now it’s all on the US?

Can you illustrate even one single instance of Canada abrogating the USMCA Agreement?

you wont find any but it is among the trump fans an idea well shared despite having negotiated and signed that agreement but we all know what usa signatures worth ...

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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I get that Trump is behaving like a petulant child or a schoolyard bully, and I find it bad… but Trudeau has been behaving that way for longer than Trump (because he’s been there longer), and now it’s all on the US?

Can you illustrate even one single instance of Canada abrogating the USMCA Agreement?

you wont find any but it is among the trump fans an idea well shared despite having negotiated and signed that agreement but we all know what usa signatures worth ...

Always bring receipts.

https://ustr.gov/about-us/poli...n-dairy-restrictions

https://www.baldwin.senate.gov...ng-wisconsin-farmers

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
One thing I find alarming is Trumps obvious lack of awareness. For example, he said a couple of days ago that Trudeau was “just wanting to cling to power” or some such.

He was obviously unaware that Canadas Liberal Party is in the midst of a leadership election, and Trudeau is not even a candidate - and will not be PM in a few days and secondly, that we’ll have a Federal election following almost immediately.

But, I suppose it’s because like some of these ARPF chucklefucks claim, it’s because Canada is irrelevant. Except for our resources, of course …

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Ouch, Canada was simply in the right.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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I dont know if you guys in the states are seeing it or not, but outside the US in the 5 eyes nations and Europe, there's quite some talk that the US can no longer be trusted with information sharing.
For two reasons, A he's an asset, or B he is a useful idiot who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

This not being reported in the U.S. that I have seen.

I would love to see Dr. Easter’s response to that assuming truth.

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Originally posted by nute:

It's his treatment of Ukraine in halting military aid and even withholding intelligence and satellite imagery to force Ukraine to concede, whilst putting zero pressure on Russia which people find despicable.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
A fool is probably the right word. Hes an absolute narcissist, and as such doesn't have any interest in anything but himself. Including history, or right and wrong. Doesn't bother to learn and just thinks his own opinion is correct.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
A fool is probably the right word. Hes an absolute narcissist, and as such doesn't have any interest in anything but himself. Including history, or right and wrong. Doesn't bother to learn and just thinks his own opinion is correct.

I believe you've hit on it. Trump is both a fool and a narcissist.