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ignore the source - listen to joe talk
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You asked for it. You got it. Now, you want to bitch about it.


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Not a coup.

If an armed mass had stormed the White House and demanded President Biden’s abdication for someone who had no claim, that would have been a coup.
 
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As I said somewhere else. Its a weekend at Bernies.
Most of us could see he was been kept in play as long as it suited others. Once his position became an embarrassment he was ditched. Joe was not and never was running the show.
 
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As I said somewhere else. Its a weekend at Bernies.
Most of us could see he was been kept in play as long as it suited others. Once his position became an embarrassment he was ditched. Joe was not and never was running the show.


Strange how easy it is for an outsider to see it so easily but local democrats cant!

Vallery jarret has been pulling the puppet strings since Obama 1 !!!!!
 
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As I said somewhere else. Its a weekend at Bernies.
Most of us could see he was been kept in play as long as it suited others. Once his position became an embarrassment he was ditched. Joe was not and never was running the show.


Strange how easy it is for an outsider to see it so easily but local democrats cant!

Vallery jarret has been pulling the puppet strings since Obama 1 !!!!!


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He had veto power.


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He still has veto power if Nancy lets him use it......If he doesn't toe the line they'll 25th his goofy ass!


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Hilarious hypocrisy to hear right wingers mentioning the word coup.
 
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Hilarious hypocrisy to hear right wingers mentioning the word coup.


oh, the left actually did one, and that's okay for you, close enough?


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You have to know, and understand, democracy, before you can protect it.

Americans have absolutely no concept of what true freedom, and democracy, is!


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Hilarious hypocrisy to hear right wingers mentioning the word coup.


oh, the left actually did one, and that's okay for you, close enough?


No, they didn't.
 
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Again, a coup requires the use of force to seize power illegitimately.

You have thrown you lot in with the nuts with such statements. You have done so only because you feel it more likely that Trump will lose.

President Biden made the right decision.

The Party gets to make its rules subject to states through legislation binding delegates. The S. Ct., recently upheld such laws.

President Biden is still President; such as he is.

I am glad he listened to reason. I hope for Trump’s loss in his bid to lead the executive branch. The voters of the individual states shall decide.
 
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Definition from Britannia:

“coup d’état, the sudden, violent coercive (my change) overthrow of an existing government by a small group. The chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements. Unlike a revolution, which is usually achieved by large numbers of people working for basic social, economic, and political change, a coup is a change in power from the top that merely results in the abrupt replacement of leading government personnel. A coup rarely alters a nation’s fundamental social and economic policies, nor does it significantly redistribute power among competing political groups.”

As to “violent” being changed to coercive, we’ll never know with what threats Obama, Pelosi, Soros and the other socialist/communist/progressive/leftest cabal used to force out Joe (who didn’t want to go) and install Kamala. The regime change came came entirely from the top. Before you argue, go back and read the comments from the TDS crowd here supporting Biden’s competence and that he was the rightfully and democratically chosen candidate by overwhelming support in the primaries.

Probably not a classic coup at a central American presidential palace, but still a coup.


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Again, a coup requires the use of force to seize power illegitimately.


unless it's a bloodless coup -

sort of like the first shah being forced to "abdicate" in favor of Reza -- as you'd ask for an example - and, strangely, an apt example

being forced at gun point, but no shots fired, is still force -- aint it, counselor?


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Try this:

We know you were paid (as was your family), bribes. Quit or we expose the entire corrupt organization.

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Again, a coup requires the use of force to seize power illegitimately.


unless it's a bloodless coup -

sort of like the first shah being forced to "abdicate" in favor of Reza -- as you'd ask for an example - and, strangely, an apt example

being forced at gun point, but no shots fired, is still force -- aint it, counselor?


JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
 
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Soft coup, sometimes referred to as a silent coup, is an illegal overthrow of a government. Unlike a classical coup d'état, it is achieved without the use of force or violence.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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You guys just can't seem to pass up an opportunity to promote a whacky conspiracy theory. Biden's performance at the debate was pathetic, his chances of winning were dropping by the second, donors were withholding funds unless he stepped aside. The writing was on the wall for him, he just was not going to win. Biden made the correct choice, put his country ahead of his personal pride(could you imagine Trump doing that? Ha!) and chose to opt out.

This was no coup. Look to TV footage of Jan the 6th 2021 if you want to see an attempted coup.
 
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Hilarious hypocrisy to hear right wingers mentioning the word coup.


oh, the left actually did one, and that's okay for you, close enough?


Well, that must be true since your cult leader keeps saying so....when he is otherwise not saying stupid unintelligible nonsense.

The coup argument is laughable. You people quack about Biden being incompetent for months. When the Dems agree and change candidates, you whine about it like it is a huge surprise.

The reality is that you thought you were on a glide path to an easy win and now it's a horse race.

Be careful what you ask for.


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You people quack about Biden being incompetent for months.


years, actually -- in my case, a couple decades, but sure, we can use months, too


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Well…one thing we can all agree upon…Kamala damn sure was not elected.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Well…one thing we can all agree upon…Kamala damn sure was not elected.



I thought VPs were elected?

Hummm

I thought she has been elected to other offices.

I also thought that she is more accustomed to being elected, more often, than Trump.

Am I wrong?

Kamala D. Harris is the Vice President of the United States. She was elected as District Attorney of San Francisco and Attorney General of California, and as a United States Senator and the Vice President.


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Well…one thing we can all agree upon…Kamala damn sure was not elected.



I thought VPs were elected?

Hummm

I thought she has been elected to other offices.

I also thought that she is more accustomed to being elected, more often, than Trump.

Am I wrong?


Of course you are wrong…aren’t you always?

She is not the elected Democratic nominee for POTUS. There is nothing in the Constitution stating an incumbent and re-elected nominee can drop out of a race and nominate his VP as the candidate.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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“The Party” can do it…but no one can pretend she went through the Democratic process. She did not. She was appointed. No different than someone in the UAE.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Awwhh chit.

So, you're saying I should believe more of Trump's lies, like you?

After all, Trump is a constitutional expert - right?

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stor...act-check-rcna166247

Debunking Trump's claim that the presidency was 'taken away' from Joe Biden
The U.S. Constitution says nothing about a party's nominating process. But that hasn't stopped Trump from pushing baseless coup claims.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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She is more accustomed to being elected, more often, than Trump.

Kamala D. Harris is the Vice President of the United States. She was elected as District Attorney of San Francisco and Attorney General of California, and as a United States Senator and the Vice President. Those are all elected positions.

Do you acknowledge those facts? Can you even acknowledge facts at all?

https://thehill.com/homenews/c...is-unconstitutional/

Trump stokes fears with ‘unconstitutional’ Harris talk
by Brett Samuels - 08/10/24 12:00 PM ET

Trump has repeatedly sought to cast Harris replacing President Biden as the Democratic nominee as nefarious, likening it to a “coup” and in recent days claiming it may be unconstitutional because she was not atop the ballot in the primary process.

Biden and other Democrats, as well as some Republican Trump critics, have suggested the former president’s rhetoric is intended to cast doubt on November’s election results should Harris prevail.

“We know one thing for sure. Trump never loses. And so if he’s not the winner of 2024 as in 2020, it must be because he was treated unfairly, yet again,” former Trump national security adviser John Bolton said on CNN.

“This is why people need to start thinking more now about how to deny Trump the ability the day after the election, if he loses, to try and throw the process into chaos again,” Bolton added.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Party of the eternal crybaby/victim.
 
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She is more accustomed to being elected, more often, than Trump.

Kamala D. Harris is the Vice President of the United States. She was elected as District Attorney of San Francisco and Attorney General of California, and as a United States Senator and the Vice President. Those are all elected positions.

Do you acknowledge those facts? Can you even acknowledge facts at all?

https://thehill.com/homenews/c...is-unconstitutional/

Trump stokes fears with ‘unconstitutional’ Harris talk
by Brett Samuels - 08/10/24 12:00 PM ET

Trump has repeatedly sought to cast Harris replacing President Biden as the Democratic nominee as nefarious, likening it to a “coup” and in recent days claiming it may be unconstitutional because she was not atop the ballot in the primary process.

Biden and other Democrats, as well as some Republican Trump critics, have suggested the former president’s rhetoric is intended to cast doubt on November’s election results should Harris prevail.

“We know one thing for sure. Trump never loses. And so if he’s not the winner of 2024 as in 2020, it must be because he was treated unfairly, yet again,” former Trump national security adviser John Bolton said on CNN.

“This is why people need to start thinking more now about how to deny Trump the ability the day after the election, if he loses, to try and throw the process into chaos again,” Bolton added.
Vice Presidents are elected on the coattails of the presidential candidate. I can't think of a situation where the VP selection carried the election. A far as the AG position goes, she was elected to that position, but it bears pointing out, she was elected by Californians! SmilerBill
 
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Bill, my point is elected is elected.

Nuance isn't important if my point is to mess with Lane.

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Well…one thing we can all agree upon…Kamala damn sure was not elected.


Taken literally, that's not nuanced.

And Lane's point was Harris' status superseding Biden after he declared he wasn't running again is unconstitutional. That not true. Actually, it's worse than just not being true. It's an intentional lie.

And perhaps the most important point is that this whole sham argument about coup comes from Trump's lies, which are parroted by the true believers.

It's shameful. But as we know the shameless can't be ashamed.

One thing we can count on, as Trump becomes more desperate, his lies will accelerate and become more rabid, and his followers will follow along.

Oh, and another thing:

Let's say that lane misspoke or that I took his comment out of context, or both.

Either way it's understandable. I'm sure Lane will forgive himself, by default, for a slight misspeak.

But remember, Lane is one of those harping on the misspeak of Walz, like it means something deep and dark.

OTOH, this argument, parroting Trump, is deep and dark and malice by intent. The Walz incident they harp on lacks intent on his part but it sure isn't lacking malice intent on the part of the harpers.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Not a coup.

If an armed mass had stormed the White House and demanded President Biden’s abdication for someone who had no claim, that would have been a coup.


Or, if a mob of trump supporters stormed the Capital building in an effort to overturn the result of a general election.


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Same controlling principle.

The use of illegitimate violence to take control of government.

Technically, VP Harris was elected. She was elected VP. She remains VP. She will be nominated under the rules of the party now that President Biden has withdrawn.

Dr. Easter’s rambling is just stupid.

I would hope the AG for California and the Senator for California weee elected by Californians.

GOPers upset by VP Harris are like the dog that caught the car. It remains to see if they will be squashed by it.
 
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GOPers upset by VP Harris are like the dog that caught the car. It remains to see if they will be squashed by it.


It's already spinning their heads. Wink

They can't even keep up.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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GOPers upset by VP Harris are like the dog that caught the car. It remains to see if they will be squashed by it.


It's already spinning their heads. Wink

They can't even keep up.


What spins my head is that you lot are so fervently anti Trump that you would gleefully rather see our country go down the path of Socialism than see him elected.
Venezuela should be serving as an example for you.
The way that the Democrat contingent so abruptly fell into formation behind a candidate that none of them wanted proves that it’s party over person in their minds.
The Dems could run a drowned cat against Trump and get half of the votes. You guys are that irrational.
 
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GOPers upset by VP Harris are like the dog that caught the car. It remains to see if they will be squashed by it.


It's already spinning their heads. Wink

They can't even keep up.


What spins my head is that you lot are so fervently anti Trump that you would gleefully rather see our country go down the path of Socialism than see him elected.
Venezuela should be serving as an example for you.
The way that the Democrat contingent so abruptly fell into formation behind a candidate that none of them wanted proves that it’s party over person in their minds.
The Dems could run a drowned cat against Trump and get half of the votes. You guys are that irrational.


Yeah, sorry but you folks are the ones trying to follow Venezuela as an example. Or maybe Maduro is following you. Remind me again who it was that tried to overturn the result of a general election? Maduro and trump? Talk about irrational. Your head is spinning so bad that you apparently lack the ability to recall basic facts.


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Do you ladies need to be held? Holy shit what a bunch whiny little bitches.
 
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