The point being, medical costs have been going up over the rate of inflation for a long time.

Physician salaries have been mostly static.

The question is why and where is the money going?

And Lheym, if your grades were so good, why not go to med school instead? You would have been paid better, at least per you…

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I can pretty much guarantee it wasn’t the doctors fees.

You can take a deep dive into medical billing if you want. You’d be surprised how little actually gets paid to the person who saw you.

One thing to remember is that what gets put down as insurance paid is actually the before discounting fee.

I get the unreasonably high number bugs people. But the government has played so many games that the fees are very artificially inflated.

As to tort reform… I dunno. They pass tort reform, yet med mal insurance rated continue to rise… even for folks with 0 claims against them.

I know of doctors in private practice who make over a million dollars a year. We don't need to compensate doctors so richly.

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Physician salaries have been mostly static.

Bullshit. Doctors fees have increased well beyond the general inflation rate.

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why not go to med school instead? You would have been paid better, at least per you…

About ten years ago, the Alaska Bar Association did a confidential survey of lawyer compensation and came up with about $65,000 per year. Know any doctors who only make that much?

Lawyer compensation hasn't kept up with inflation; it's been flat or even dropped. That's because we have too many lawyers in the US. And the law schools keep churning them out.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The point being, medical costs have been going up over the rate of inflation for a long time.

Physician salaries have been mostly static.

The question is why and where is the money going?

And Lheym, if your grades were so good, why not go to med school instead? You would have been paid better, at least per you…

Because I never have liked doctor or medicine. I chose my profession in the 4th grade.

I have never wanted for money since obtains adulthood. If I had to take loans to be a lawyer, I would have done something else. I did not. Never had to worry about. The practice of law has been difficult, but rewarding to me on many levels.

I have suggested where I think those cost are going, high level administrative pay and board pay.

If you are so near broke being a doctor, go to law school. Your background will make you a berry competitive applicant for law school and as an associate.

O never could stand professionals complaining about their chosen profession from a compensation standpoint, or having to go through professional school.

If you do not believe you are being justly compensated, stop whining about not getting a raise. Go do something else. My wife did.

I am glad rural APRNs make 6 figures. Shows the health of the industry.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Physician salaries have been mostly static.

Bullshit. Doctors fees have increased well beyond the general inflation rate.

When I retired a dozen years ago an office visit without insurance was 80 dollars where I go. Today it's close to 300. There are walk in clinics for less, tho.

You have nothing to bitch about pimple.
$300 is "close enough" to $80.

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Originally posted by theback40:
You have nothing to bitch about pimple.
$300 is "close enough" to $80.

Difference between doctors and lawyers
One helps everyone who needs help
The other helps one to hurt another
Tough world out there

We are talking two different things.

What the doc actually takes home (most are employees because it’s impossible to be available 24/7).

What gets charged to the folks that have to pay full rate has gone way up. Mainly because of increased discounts mandated by government and insurance… but I’m not holding medicine blameless.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Physician salaries have been mostly static.

Bullshit. Doctors fees have increased well beyond the general inflation rate.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The point being, medical costs have been going up over the rate of inflation for a long time.

Physician salaries have been mostly static.

The question is why and where is the money going?

And Lheym, if your grades were so good, why not go to med school instead? You would have been paid better, at least per you…

Tasunkawitko's wife noted that "...care plans don't write themselves..." awhile back.
Last couple of serious trips to Kaiser Permanente, there were teams working patient cases.

The last couple of years' Medicare Part C reports startled me.
I will struggle to make my remaining time worth what it cost my fellow citizens.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The point being, medical costs have been going up over the rate of inflation for a long time.

Physician salaries have been mostly static.

The question is why and where is the money going?

And Lheym, if your grades were so good, why not go to med school instead? You would have been paid better, at least per you…

My observation has been that once medical care went corporate things changed for the worse.

My step father was one of the last physicians in his area with a private practice. He was disgusted with the 'mall' atmosphere with corporate medicine and the loss of independence.

Doctors are not really deciding care because if they do, medicare and other 'health care' policies won't pay. Administrators are deciding care and treatment as well and base it wholly on what care policies will pay.

There are many problems.

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Originally posted by Ed Scarboro:
Biden economy is also setting records for the most households holding multiple jobs in order to cover the Biden inflation.

No shit. You need 30 hours per week for employer-paid medical insurance.
This has done more for the 32-hour workweek than all the unions put together.
Two part-time jobs will pay the rent but you still have to wait for Medicare to get healthcare.

The world sees what America does not.

https://youtu.be/hEIuG4p0Jnc?si=mNM4MpjwS5dSPbJa

Ive got to say that my US investments have outperformed my domestic ones by a big margin.

Your politics and healthcare are still insane though...

Wow. Liberals can crap on the floor during trumps administration, complain like heck to have to clean it up, leaves smears and stains all over from their "clean up" then crow about the good job they did.

When tech companies are laying off, yeah, it's a Biden recession
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/1...poly-on-workers.html

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Wow. Liberals can crap on the floor during trumps administration, complain like heck to have to clean it up, leaves smears and stains all over from their "clean up" then crow about the good job they did.

When tech companies are laying off, yeah, it's a Biden recession
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/1...poly-on-workers.html

Those laid-off workers are finding jobs or the unemployment rate wouldn't keep falling, but it's good that you are concerned for Google and Amazon.

Also depends what % of laid off workforce takes early retirement.