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Worked for Dennis Hof... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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You, sir, are the king of false equivalence and both-sides thing. Is your crotch sore from riding the fence like that? "Conservatives wouldn't put up with it" Heck, conservatives are those who are putting it up, pushing it, advocating it, blessing it, making plans to implement it, counting on it, all the while calling it something else, spinning it. Voting for Trump IS voting for 50,000 shock troops, Trump loyalists, to fill the vacancies after the purge. Are you a Trump loyalist? That's the relevant question if he wins the next election. Fence straddlers like you will easily try to get right with the Orange Geesus police. Where do apologists go when they realize they are not the chosen ones, not true loyalists to the Orange Geesus? First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me Martin Niemöller ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Given a Congress peopled with reasonable public servants, regardless of Party control, I would accept that appointment. As it stands now I would do 150 illegal, immoral and unconstitutional things in the first month, pardon those who carried out my orders, pardon myself and resign. It would be known as a bloody month when treason's cost came home to roost. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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You've disguised yourself well then. | |||
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. . . objective . . . my ass . . . November 27, 2019 Dow 28121 SP 3140 Nas 8647 November 22, 2023 Dow 35273 SP 4556 Nas 14265 Mike | |||
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Nope. My behind is just fine. Like all presidents, Trump will pass. You miss the blatantly obvious. Why didn’t we go Nazi and be done with elections after Trump’s first term? If he is going to turn us into Mussolini ver 2.0, why didn’t it happen? The one thing Trump is right on is governmental inertia. That’s not a bad thing. His swamp stopped some of his excesses, just like it stopped some of Obama’s or Biden’s. You are frantically crying “Fascism!” Hoping to influence enough folks to go along with your “reality” just like the other side uses its rallying issues. That it’s BS is shown by the vast majority of people ignoring your concerns.
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And how much is the effect of inflation? | |||
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I don’t know Jines from Adam but he sure sounds like very very educated idiot who loves to look down upon most people Nothing like standing over your own kill | |||
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. . . great point, not. On an inflation adjusted basis the S&P is only up 21% and the Nasdaq is only up 42% since November 2019. Lane may need to reassess his choice of financial advisor . . . objectively saying. Mike | |||
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. . . only dumb ones, present company included. Mike | |||
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George Santos was in charge of updating their talking points but he got just a mite busy with other things. His Chief Assistant was the Chairman of the Florida Republican Party but he got just a mite busy... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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So who do you recommend Mike? My stuff is behind for the year, so far. I haven’t kept track from 19 specifically, but it’s not been doing well overall for some time. | |||
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Good God, man, it's not like trump didn't try. | |||
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. . . seriously, where have you been the last five years? Dow S&P Nasdaq Mike | |||
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Frankly, that looks pretty flat after a rebound post Covid. | |||
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Flat? The Dow was around 27000 when Trump left office. Now it is over 36000. The S&P was under 3500 and is now over 4500. The Nasdaq was just over 9000 and is now over 14000. Flat? Sheesh. Mike | |||
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Whats correlation and causation though? It looks too me like the markets were on a steady path up before trump left office as the world climbed out of the covid induced recession. Then from about May 21 till now Id say thats generally pretty flat? | |||
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Why do the markets matter when we're talking ideology and worldview and outcome? How would the "markets" respond to Fascism? ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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That was NOT me using the word “dictatorship”…that was a quote from the OP linked article. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Listening for the rec myself as I am in the same boat. With cash drawing some mildly decent interest over the last 12-18 months…I have made up some slack however. And I never stated above the markets were not climbing out of the COVID pit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Look at your own damn graph. It rebounded heavily after the COVID restrictions started ending in 20 into 21. I looked pretty good the first year of Biden. Since then? Inflation and a flat market. What does it look like for most of Biden's term? Flat, with a lot of volatility. I get it that folks like you in business can make a lot of money on volatility, but folks like me with a day job are stuck using professionals and mutual funds.
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. . . I guess you cannot appreciate that if you were invested in a DJ mutual fund in January 2020, that fund has appreciated 33% since then . . . Mike | |||
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Mike, you are smart enough to understand that where you put your endpoints makes a huge difference. I’m not so sure Biden had a lot of influence on the post Covid recovery, but Trump certainly had a lot of influence over the Covid drop. And if the market is doing so well, why the extreme volatility and overall flat performance since 4th quarter 22? You’re the one saying how great he’s doing… | |||
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