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In the Opening Brief, when their efforts to obtain such a bond were still ongoing,
Defendants stated their expectation that it would be “impossible to secure and post a complete
bond.” Opening Brief at 15, 25. Diligent efforts since that time, including “countless hours
negotiating with one of the largest insurance companies in the world,” have proven that “obtaining
an appeal bond in the full amount” of the Judgment “is not possible under the circumstances
presented.” Giuletti Aff. ¶¶ 3, 9-10. The amount of the judgment, with interest, exceeds $464
million, and very few bonding companies will consider a bond of anything approaching that
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magnitude. Id. ¶ 12. The remaining handful will not “accept hard assets such as real estate as
collateral,” but “will only accept cash or cash equivalents (such as marketable securities).” Id. ¶
13. Moreover, sureties would typically “require collateral of approximately 120% of the amount
of the judgment,” which “would require Defendants to hand over collateral in the form of cash or
cash equivalents of approximately” $557 million. Id. ¶ 19. In addition, sureties would likely
charge bond premiums of approximately 2 percent per year with two years in advance—an upfront cost over $18 million. Id. ¶ 20.
In short, “a bond of this size is rarely, if ever, seen. In the unusual circumstance that a bond
of this size is issued, it is provided to the largest public companies in the world, not to individuals
or privately held businesses.” Id. ¶ 16. The actual amount of cash or cash equivalents required
“to collateralize the bond and have sufficient capital to run the business and satisfy its other
obligations” “approach[es] $1 billion.” Id. ¶ 17. As a result, “obtaining a bond for $464 million
is a practical impossibility.” Id. ¶ 18.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Did he post a bond or not??

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Remember the GoFundMe to pay this for him from donations from trailer parks across the land?

It got to $1.3 million and stalled, hasn't moved significantly since.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Remember the GoFundMe to pay this for him from donations from trailer parks across the land?

It got to $1.3 million and stalled, hasn't moved significantly since.

Be patient, welfare checks don’t come in until the first of the month.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
What happened to the money NitanHitler paid him to legalize their occupation of the Golan Heights??

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Remember the GoFundMe to pay this for him from donations from trailer parks across the land?

It got to $1.3 million and stalled, hasn't moved significantly since.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

How did it all get this way??

Far far far too many lawyers in the country!

I said it before, if the number of lawyers in America is reduced by 98%!

The whole country will be living much happier over night!

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The "Judge's" concern for Trump is particularly poignant when you consider that Trump's entire career has consisted of manipulating the courts to screw anyone who opposed him or had the sheer audacity to expect to be paid what they were owed.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
There are old videos floating around during which the presiding judge (Engoron) admits that he tailors decisions to accomplish his agenda. He refers that process as using his “tools”. The s.o.b. should be de-frocked and disbarred.

Why did he assess the unprecedented fine and ban Trump from doing business in N.Y.? Even the biggest Trump hater knows Engoron’s motive.

Political terrorism by judges and D.A.’s is not the purpose of our judicial system. We tread on dangerous ground when activist judicial officers disregard the law for their definition of social justice. The ends don’t justify the means. Left wing and right wing power are both transitory. Your engineered victory of today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Trump’s difficulty in posting a bond is not something his opponents should revel in. It only lowers them to the level of Engoron, an evil little man of no real vision and of little character.

Payback is a M.F.

How did it all get this way??

Far far far too many lawyers in the country!

I said it before, if the number of lawyers in America is reduced by 98%!

The whole country will be living much happier over night!

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The "Judge's" concern for Trump is particularly poignant when you consider that Trump's entire career has consisted of manipulating the courts to screw anyone who opposed him or had the sheer audacity to expect to be paid what they were owed.

I have to chuckle when the Trumplicans talk about "lawfare" and the like. Their Orange Jesus is the poster child for lawsuit abuse and tort reform and has made it a practice to regularly use the court system to harass, cajole, intimidate and browbeat opponents, frequently resorting to frivolous lawsuits to do so. As the Judge said, payback is a M.F.

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And if Trump goes completely broke and becomes homeless I'll break my long abstinence and get gloriously drunk in his honor.

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Originally posted by wymple:

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And if Trump goes completely broke and becomes homeless I'll break my long abstinence and get gloriously drunk in his honor.

Don't drink, never did, but I'll join you.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Right now, the most “threatening” of paybacks is the opinion of about 1/2 of Americans who’ll vote for Trump (and may well elect him) due to actual and/or perceived abuses of the DOJ, special prosecutors, transgender and EDI mandates, anti-Semitism… ad nausea.

Opposition to TDS (by supporting Trump) or religiously and in lockstep hating him seems more important (at least to my perception) than finding the best candidate on either side.

Should Trump been found liable for offenses charged? Perhaps, but to the extent punished… We’ll never know because the judge is an admitted “tool” user who has forever soiled his position on the bench.

Yes, I’m bitter. At the system (as abused), that is… It isn’t a political tool.

As to videos of the judge referencing how he uses tools to manipulate results to his agenda, perhaps a bit of delving into his recorded statements would be enlightening to the inquirer. You might learn from what will become evident. The guy is a political hack. Try searching and listening. It’ll do you good.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
Borrowed from elsewhere!

The details on these bonding arrangements is pretty interesting. From the NYT:

1) "The companies would essentially promise to cover Mr. Trump’s judgment if he lost an appeal and failed to pay. In exchange, he would pledge collateral and pay the company a fee as high as 3 percent of the bond." [Note: on a $500 million bond, that fee would be $15 million!]

2) "To offer a bond of this size, the companies would require Mr. Trump to pledge more than $550 million in cash, stocks and bonds as collateral — a sum he simply does not have."

Apparently, the bond companies "rarely accept" real estate as collateral, which would be problematic in any case because how would that be valued? An independent appraisal at a much lower value than Trump used, would essentially prove the NY AG was correct, thereby making the appeal moot.

It's a Catch-22 of his own making.

JUST FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!!

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A real judge wouldn't cast doubt and innuendo on our legal system.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Right now, the most “threatening” of paybacks is the opinion of about 1/2 of Americans who’ll vote for Trump (and may well elect him) due to actual and/or perceived abuses of the DOJ, special prosecutors, transgender and EDI mandates, anti-Semitism… ad nausea.

Opposition to TDS (by supporting Trump) or religiously and in lockstep hating him seems more important (at least to my perception) than finding the best candidate on either side.

Should Trump been found liable for offenses charged? Perhaps, but to the extent punished… We’ll never know because the judge is an admitted “tool” user who has forever soiled his position on the bench.

Yes, I’m bitter. At the system (as abused), that is… It isn’t a political tool.

As to videos of the judge referencing how he uses tools to manipulate results to his agenda, perhaps a bit of delving into his recorded statements would be enlightening to the inquirer. You might learn from what will become evident. The guy is a political hack. Try searching and listening. It’ll do you good.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...23/10/04/id/1137037/

One of many. It’s amazingly dangerous to use “tools” to satisfy your own emotions or agenda.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Some folks can justify any damn thing. The words “emotions” or “feelings” are the core of EMI, not facts or logic.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Some folks can justify any damn thing.The words “emotions” or “feelings” are the core of EMI, TDS and wokeness, not facts or logic. Justice based on emotions is only as predictable as the agenda of the judge and the trier of fact. Right wing or left, I t’s called prejudice. Feeling good about a ruling based on prejudice should be an anathema to American jurisprudence.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Right now, the most “threatening” of paybacks is the opinion of about 1/2 of Americans who’ll vote for Trump (and may well elect him) due to actual and/or perceived abuses of the DOJ, special prosecutors, transgender and EDI mandates, anti-Semitism… ad nausea.

Opposition to TDS (by supporting Trump) or religiously and in lockstep hating him seems more important (at least to my perception) than finding the best candidate on either side.

Should Trump been found liable for offenses charged? Perhaps, but to the extent punished… We’ll never know because the judge is an admitted “tool” user who has forever soiled his position on the bench.

Yes, I’m bitter. At the system (as abused), that is… It isn’t a political tool.

As to videos of the judge referencing how he uses tools to manipulate results to his agenda, perhaps a bit of delving into his recorded statements would be enlightening to the inquirer. You might learn from what will become evident. The guy is a political hack. Try searching and listening. It’ll do you good.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...23/10/04/id/1137037/

One of many. It’s amazingly dangerous to use “tools” to satisfy your own emotions or agenda.

So, here's the quote:

"Am I following the law, or am I making the law? OK, I'm following law. I'm an impartial referee. But it's hard to factor out my own emotions," Engoron said.

There's no judge on the face of the planet who would disagree with that statement. At least...no honest judge.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Some folks can justify any damn thing. The words “emotions” or “feelings” are the core of EMI, not facts or logic.

I hear what you're saying. trump didn't help things by shitting all over the judge before and during the trial.

I doubt the judgment survives appellate scrutiny.