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A second federal judge has issued a temporary injunction noting in her order that:

>>the plaintiffs would “very likely” succeed on the merits in their case against Trump’s order, which she said “conflicts with the plain language of the 14th Amendment.”

Boardman said Supreme Court precedent protects birthright citizenship.

“No court in the country has ever endorsed the president’s interpretation,” she said. “This court will not be the first.”



 
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Getting harder for the convicted felon mother fucker to destroy the constitution.

But he's still destroying American society.
 
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Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
 
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Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


luckily for you the over 40 millions of canadians declined your lovely invitation ...
 
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Lets get this 14th amendment issue to the supreme court...

There is quite a bit of difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction".....

Precedent does mean correct......And intent matters....
 
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Birthright citizenship has already been to the SCOTUS. More than once.



 
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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


luckily for you the over 40 millions of

canadians declined your lovely invitation ...


And this has got nothing to do with Canadians


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
 
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Originally posted by medved:
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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


luckily for you the over 40 millions of

canadians declined your lovely invitation ...


And this has got nothing to do with Canadians


so canada is not part of the world lol ...

your written words here:

Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter
 
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Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


I guarantee you are a brainwashed cult follower. Wake up and smell the god damned coffee.
 
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While I think we should not be granting children of noncitizens/ permanent residents birthright citizenship, I also believe that the only way to do it is by a constitutional amendment.

I do think most citizens would support that.
 
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Getting harder for the convicted felon mother fucker to destroy the constitution.

But he's still destroying American society.



Careful!

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A second federal judge has issued a temporary injunction noting in her order that:

>>the plaintiffs would “very likely” succeed on the merits in their case against Trump’s order, which she said “conflicts with the plain language of the 14th Amendment.”

Boardman said Supreme Court precedent protects birthright citizenship.

“No court in the country has ever endorsed the president’s interpretation,” she said. “This court will not be the first.”



oh, i think trump loses this one, as without a real law behind it, facing a full judicial review, it's a loser eo


say -- didn't it take a FULL act of congress, over 50 years after the passing of the 14th to include Indians in that birthright citizenship back in the day?

oh, this in an inconvenient fact
https://constitutioncenter.org...ited-states-citizens


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Lets get this 14th amendment issue to the supreme court...

There is quite a bit of difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction".....

Precedent does mean correct......And intent matters....


It already has been multiple times.

The issue here is narrow, Whether the President by Executive Order can void Supreme Court precedent controlling the Constitution.

The answer is a resound no.

Trump can no more void this interpretation of the 14th Amendment than Obama and Biden could void the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment by executive order. They had the education and the restraint not to try.
 
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Pardon me, IMO Dems destroying American society by allowing everyone in
Are we going to invite whole world here?
Guarantee you that every American thinks like Trump in that matter


An idea to expose to light and air. It remains to be seen how the electorate instructs its Congress.


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Originally posted by JTEX:
Lets get this 14th amendment issue to the supreme court...

There is quite a bit of difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction".....

Precedent does mean correct......And intent matters....


I never thought of you as a Constitutional scholar, but let's pretend that you are. Could you explain the difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction"? Regardless, the Fourteenth Amendment says "under," right?

How do you get around years of Republicans' arguments against activist judges who read the Constitution contrary to its plain meaning?

Or does that reasoning only apply when it serves your agenda?
 
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Originally posted by JTEX:
Lets get this 14th amendment issue to the supreme court...

There is quite a bit of difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction".....

Precedent does mean correct......And intent matters....


I never thought of you as a Constitutional scholar, but let's pretend that you are. Could you explain the difference between "in the jurisdiction" and "under the jurisdiction"? Regardless, the Fourteenth Amendment says "under," right?

How do you get around years of Republicans' arguments against activist judges who read the Constitution contrary to its plain meaning?

Or does that reasoning only apply when it serves your agenda?


i know your google-fu is weak, honey --
here you go
https://constitutioncenter.org...ited-states-citizens

this event CLEARLY shows that being born within the borders of the US does not make a citizen make ... hence the confusion


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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