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... even that which we abhor. From the Post via The Hill this morning: Opinion Matt Bai Why does defending awful speech matter? Now you know. Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension shows how one person’s dissent is another person’s “hate speech.” September 18, 2025 A lot of us across the political spectrum, I would guess, woke up Thursday morning in a country we didn’t quite recognize, as if reality had shifted literally overnight. At the start of the week, the attorney general of the United States proclaimed that certain “hate speech” — meaning things she found offensive — would no longer be protected by the First Amendment. Then, two days later, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission bullied Disney into suspending comedian Jimmy Kimmel and pulling him off the air, which the president hailed as “great news for America.” I wonder how many conservative thinkers, some of whom clearly feel uneasy about this turn of events, will find the spine to denounce it. Former vice president Mike Pence was spotted Wednesday visiting the National Archives, where the entire Constitution is on display for the first time; maybe he, too, had the eerie sense that it was sitting in a casket, lying in state. To my horrified friends on the left, though, I feel compelled to ask a different question. Now do you understand why all speech is worth defending? Like some conservative writers and a handful of hardy liberals, I’ve written repeatedly over the past several years about the threat to free expression from the left. Since 2020, we’ve seen White journalists and academics punished just for repeating words that qualified as “hate speech”; the issuance of inoffensive language manuals by groups such as the American Medical Association and the Sierra Club; and the removal of books from library shelves and bookstores because they trafficked in uncomfortable stereotypes, or because the authors were said to be bad people. Most often, whenever I’ve lent my voice to the chorus of others criticizing this madness, I’ve heard from my overeducated friends some version of the same lawyerly response: The First Amendment, they told me, applies to government intervention — not to the private decisions of universities or book publishers. If the people who run news organizations or who own the rights to “Green Eggs and Ham” want to do the right thing and spare us all from hurtful language and images (and spare themselves from employee walkouts and online mobs), why shouldn’t they be encouraged to exercise that freedom of choice? Wasn’t that just the market speaking? No one was forcing W.W. Norton to un-publish a biography of Philip Roth just because someone publicly accused the author of sexual assault (and because the subject of the book was known in literary circles as a misogynist). No, the publisher, having been made aware of these allegations, was simply acting in good conscience. What did any of that have to do with repression? Separately, I’ve often encountered another argument that’s particularly popular among the young and the academic: that free speech as a concept has been fetishized by the powerful, who use it mostly as a tool to oppress those with less resonant voices in society. Why was my right to say whatever popped into my head, they asked me, more sacred than someone else’s right to feel safe and included? Well, to paraphrase one of my favorite lines from “Hamilton”: If you don’t know, now you know. Protecting speech from outside forces that would quash it — even when the speech is stupid and heinous, and even when the censorship is lawful — matters because the quashing never ends there. One person’s dissent is another person’s “hate speech.” And once you start prescribing limits on language and ideology, then anyone with power is free to do the same — including, inevitably, ignorant people who find themselves in control of government. Ironically, this was the view espoused by Vice President JD Vance when he lectured the Germans earlier this year about the folly of banning far-right groups — neo-Nazis, essentially — from their political process. But now that Vance’s friend has been savagely killed (as opposed to, say, millions of Jews), I guess he no longer views “hate speech” as legitimate discourse. I guess the Germans should tolerate offensive views, but here in America, we’re going to demand they be silenced and prosecute speakers if necessary. What we need in this country is a rebirth of actual liberalism. I don’t mean that in the sense of the political label that Democrats have been running away from since the late 1980s. I mean it in the sense of the liberal consensus, as it was called, that both Republicans and Democrats of sound mind embraced for most of the 20th century. I mean it in the sense that the ACLU meant it, back in its glory days, when it fought to allow Nazis to march through the streets of Skokie, Illinois. That kind of liberalism, at its core, is about fiercely defending our constitutional freedoms and a free exchange of ideas — no matter their merit or whom they might offend. There’s been very little of that liberalism among the intolerant left these past few years. And now we have its opposite in the Trumpian world, where the genre of “hate speech” created by the academic left is being used as a pretext for statist censorship. If we choose not to protect some expression, then we really can’t protect any of it. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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In the private sector you can speak all you want, but it can have consequeces if someone does't like it. You can be fired from a job, doxed or in a place like this get your ass banned. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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OK, dundee. When the govt. such as the head of the FCC extorts or blackmails a private company to take action to silence critic of Trump, that's against what the 1st is about. Just like a quid pro quo in the flip scenario would be illegal too. It's literally unconstitutional. I'm pretty sure, for example, if some rep of the US govt in particular told Saeed to ban someone because they deemed criticism of Trump or admin on this forum wrong somehow, well, in his own way he would set them straight. ![]() ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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And when the 0biden govt told facebook and twitter etc to ban those who spoke out opposing issues with covid???? Eh?
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Agreed, but didn't Saeed put out a list of things that had nothing to do with trump that could get you banned here? Of course since we have the PM here, somone could ask for your dismissal without you ever knowing. Pretty sure Saeed would not comply. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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As someone on the right, I have seen the left playing these games for some time. Lois Lerner and all that, with zero accountability. I’ve seen the progressive bias in media for decades. I would think that those on the right, having been victims of the very abuses that Trump is doing now should be the most vocal about this bad behavior. Unfortunately it seems they are more interested in gaining perceived vengeance than trying to get good governance. As to the FCC guy, it is absolutely wrong to tie allowance of business items to political behavior. It should not happen, and while Trump and his thin skin don’t surprise me, it doesn’t make me any happier that it occurs. I would say to my fellow travelers on the right, given the current situation, what would Charlie Kirk do or want? If you want to have a prayer on school grounds, you have to put up with the opposite side putting up a satanist prayer. You should be willing to quietly and respectfully let a Muslim imam say a blessing. You should let a secular humanist say his piece. Tolerance is not a one way street. | |||
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I see that you missed the point. Saeed unliterally allowing or not allowing participation herein for what ever reason has practically nothing related to the restrictions on the govt to curtail free speech, per the 1st. If the govt suggested ("we can do this the easy way or the hard way") Saeed do something regarding what participants are allow to say criticizing Trump, for specific example, then that is within the scope of the 1st, because the coercion itself is a violation of the 1st. Whether Saeed does or doesn't comply in this hypothetical isn't the point, nor a violation of the 1st. It's the govt who is in violation by means of the coersion. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I'm sure I can find several ways to argue that is a false equivalence. The words (1)"told" and (2)"ban" and (3)"spoke out opposing issues with covid" has different implications than (1)"pressured" and (2)"remove content" and (3)"misinformation". And what the Biden admin did was public health and safety concerns. What Trump is doing is about criticizing him. Did Biden govt told facebook and twitter etc to ban those who spoke out opposing issues with covid? AI Overview Evidence has shown that officials in the Biden administration repeatedly pressured social media platforms, including Facebook (now Meta) and X (formerly Twitter), to remove content that they considered to be COVID-19 misinformation . These actions became the subject of a major lawsuit that reached the Supreme Court in 2024. Government communications with social media companies Pressure to remove content: In August 2024, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg stated that senior officials from the Biden administration "repeatedly pressured" Facebook to censor certain COVID-19 content during 2021, including humor, satire, and criticism of vaccine policies. Targeted accounts: During a press conference in 2021, former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki confirmed the administration was "flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation," and noted that some accounts that frequently shared misinformation had been banned. Intense communication: Internal emails made public in a lawsuit revealed a high volume of communication between federal agencies and social media companies regarding content moderation. The Biden administration's Digital Director, Rob Flaherty, corresponded with executives at companies like Meta and Twitter to push for stricter enforcement against COVID-19 misinformation. The Murthy v. Missouri Supreme Court case Lawsuit details: In 2022, the attorneys general of Louisiana and Missouri, along with five social media users, sued the Biden administration. They argued that the government had coerced social media platforms into censoring posts about COVID-19 and the 2020 election, violating Americans' free speech rights under the First Amendment. Lower court ruling: A federal judge and a court of appeals sided with the plaintiffs, ruling that the administration had likely crossed the line from persuasion to coercion by making threats of legal or regulatory action. Supreme Court decision: On June 26, 2024, the Supreme Court, in a 6–3 decision, reversed the lower court's ruling. The majority opinion, written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, did not address the merits of the First Amendment claims but instead ruled that the plaintiffs lacked legal standing to sue. The Court concluded that the plaintiffs did not provide enough evidence that their specific censored posts were a direct result of government pressure, rather than the platforms' own moderation policies. Ongoing debate Despite the Supreme Court ruling, the issue remains controversial. Government's view: The Biden administration has maintained that it was urging social media companies to take responsible action against harmful misinformation that was threatening public health during the pandemic. Critics' concerns: Opponents, including dissenting Supreme Court justices, continue to argue that the administration's actions were a "covert scheme of censorship" that used powerful pressure to silence dissenting opinions. Mark Zuckerberg's recent public statements also reinforce the view that the government's pressure was "wrong," and he has vowed to resist similar requests in the future. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I am very much annoyed by the petty biases shown by guys like Jimmy Kimmel. I am just as annoyed by the bias shown by people like Candace Owen. All of them are half right, half of the time but they can't see, let alone acknowledge, another point of view. Nonetheless, I think any of them should be allowed to say what they want. That extreme bias is divisive and harmful to our society is obvious. It erodes the empathy we might otherwise feel and, in extreme cases, may result in murder. Jimmy Kimmel should keep his job. If ratings suffer because of his vitriolic monologues, he should get cancelled. I would imagine, since a great number of his viewers share his point of view, he will coast along with the same viewership forever. I can't fault any late night hosts for ridiculing Trump. He makes it too easy. They may find though, if they are somewhat more balanced in their delivery, it might help their careers. Bill | |||
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"Balance" is subjective, isn't it Bill? Bias is everywhere. Pick your poison. It's free but not without cost. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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If Saeed was an American citizen on American soil I expect that the government could put pressure on Saeed in a way you might never know about. This place tho is run by the golden rule. Saeed [or more likely the site's owner] has the gold and he makes the rules. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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I agree. But the pressure to silence Kimmel was in plain sight in the public knowledge, not only from what the head of FCC said, but what Trump said too. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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https://www.google.com/search?...usghfsHbi6KI&csuir=1 Did Ted Cruz use the analogy of a mob walking into a bar and saying this is a nice place, it would be terrible if something bad happened to it? AI answer: Yes, on September 19, 2025, Senator Ted Cruz used that analogy, comparing the actions of Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chair Brendan Carr to a mafioso. Context of Cruz's remarks Target of the analogy: During an episode of his podcast, Cruz was criticizing comments made by Carr, who had threatened ABC's license over remarks made by late-night host Jimmy Kimmel. The analogy: Cruz specifically referenced the well-known mob movie Goodfellas when he said Carr's warning was "right out of a mafioso coming into a bar, going, 'nice bar you have here. It'd be a shame if something happened to it'". The broader issue: Cruz argued that it was "dangerous as hell" for the government to threaten media outlets over content it dislikes, setting a bad precedent for freedom of speech. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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and we can say a lot but you are tolerating a lot of free speech that cannot be used anymore in usa ... | |||
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Where can this list be found? | |||
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Fast forward to about the 3:20 mark. The Dutch do not care what trump thinks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqNlZwBHZwM | |||
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He posted it here with 3 words. We be woke. Remember that? Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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trump doesn't think, he says. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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Saeed is very tolerant. He doesn't just tolerate free speech. He enjoys it and encourages it. And he participates. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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We should defend all speech that doesn’t incite terror or doesn’t encourages violence but that being said , anything could construed as such so tough deal overall Most of us know what’s right and what’s wrong but that also is affected by persons political and economic views so good luck to all of us Hell, even Seeds site bans individuals at times When it comes to Kimmel, he is his own worst enemy so there is that Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Saeed banned Glen Brown aka GWB aka Geedubya… …for political speech. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Repeated spamming even after being warned, wasn't it? | |||
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He posted Right Wing articles. We all post articles. One man’s spam is another man’s belief. The warning, I read it as GWB is a friend, said to quit posting these articles from Breitbart and Conservative Treehouse as they were considered lies and propaganda. Is this no different from from what y’all are arguing against? I support all speech being allowd. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Well, I'm thinking somewhat differently on that. I'm certainly not going to defend ALL speech and certainly none that incites violence or hate. And by "defend" I mean speaking out. I wouldn't use violence to defend free speech, assuming I could avoid it. And speech from a bully pulpit such as Trump's lies and threats and demonizing, etc., are in a special category because they definitely incite hate and violence, and that's by intent. I'm never going to defend that. Also, Defend what? The speech, words, or the right to speech? There is lots of speech that I wouldn't defend, but I would defend the right per the 1st, with SCOTUS caveats. "Most of us know what's right and what's wrong". Hummm I'm not convinced. Kimmel was exercising his right to free speech, well within the bounds of the 1st with SCOTUS caveats, correct? His sin was just criticizing Dear Leader. His worst enemy, regarding free speech, was/is Trump who had the power. Do you think using the power of the Fed govt to silence free speech, indirectly through use of coercion and blackmail of the Corporate boss, as benevolent or malevolent? malevolent adjective ma·lev·o·lent mə-ˈle-və-lənt Synonyms of malevolent 1 : having, showing, or arising from intense often vicious ill will, spite, or hatred 2 : productive of harm or evil Merriam Webster Volent is an adjective that means exercising volition, or willingness. It comes from Latin volent-, the present participle of velle, meaning to will or wish. vo·li·tion noun the faculty or power of using one's will ================================================ Here's a definition of "Fighting Words" as defined by the 1st and court cases: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fighting_words Kimmel didn't use fighting words. Trump does use such words and actions. ============================================== Also Advocacy of illegal action: https://www.law.cornell.edu/we...cy_of_illegal_action Kimmel didn't advocate illegal action. Trump committed illegal action. ============================================== Here's a quote of the 1st amendment edited to include only the free speech part, and a question: Congress shall make no law... prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech. Does that include the president? AI Overview: Yes, the First Amendment applies to the president and all other levels of government, as Supreme Court interpretation has expanded the First Amendment to constrain any government action restricting speech. While the text specifically mentions Congress, subsequent legal interpretations have established that the "government" (federal, state, and local) cannot infringe on free speech rights. However, this applies to actions by the government, not private entities like businesses. Why it includes the President: Government Action Standard: The First Amendment's free speech protections apply to "government action" or "state action," meaning that any entity acting as a government—including the President and their administration—is bound by its terms. Supreme Court Precedent: The Supreme Court has consistently held that the First Amendment limits the actions of all branches of government, not just Congress. Implication of the Language: Although the First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law...", the underlying principle is that the government as a whole should not abridge freedom of speech. Exceptions: Government Employees: The government can place some limitations on the speech of its employees, including the President, in certain contexts. Content-Neutral Restrictions: The government can impose content-neutral restrictions on speech, such as those related to time, place, and manner (e.g., noise restrictions or traffic control), as long as they are reasonable. Amendment 1 – “The Freedom of Speech” | Ronald Reagan The original writing of the Constitution says that Congress can not interfere with the First Amendment right to speech and the press. This has long since been i... favicon Ronald Reagan Presidential Library (.gov) Freedom of Speech: An Overview | Congress.gov Sep 13, 2024 — The report concludes by describing other First Amendment rights related to the freedom of speech. The Free Speech Clause generally constrains only government ac... favicon Congress.gov The Bill of Rights: A Transcription - National Archives Aug 7, 2025 — Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or... favicon National Archives (.gov) ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. 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Banned terms: Menstruation Female (oops Birthing person) body parts Any pictures of male genitalia Addict Beating a dead horse (suggested by PETA) Blind Review Blacklisted Committed Suicide Crazy Crippled Dumb Handicapped Ghetto Hick Hillbilly Immigrant Insane Killing it Lame Master (or any discussion of slavery, emancipation, reparations) Prostitute Slave (or any discussion of slavery, emancipation, reparations) Retard Sanity Check Spaz Senile Trailer Trash Whitepaper Brave Chief Half Breed Indian Summer Pocohontas Tribe Chairman/Congressman (they are gender specific) He, She, Him, Man, Woman, His, Hers (now it’s they) Woman (can now to be referred to as Birthing Person) Shemale Straight Tranny Karen Webmaster Whipped into shape And DRG’s favorite: Rule of Thumb (from the English law that it was illegal to beat your wife (oops sorry, Birthing Person) with a stick bigger than your thumb. Yes, we be woke. Thanks and enjoy. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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I didn't see dildo on the list, so that must be ok. ![]() ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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That's BS, Lane. I exchanged many posts POV with GWB and things were okay for a while, until he zealoted out and started spamming. He posted many, many articles' content in full (cut & paste) daily, no spacing, crap, almost impossible to read even if one wanted to. Some were from the sources you mentioned but also from AmericanStinker. Those sources are not just "considered" propaganda. They are propaganda spewers. It must have taken a lot of his time because I don't think he was using a BOT, like the other guy from Ukraine about that same time who also got banned. Funny - you never mention him. Perhaps because he wasn't far-right. These online political forums attract nutz. Things can get radical, which must be controlled or it ruins it for us all. Be thankful that this forum is unique. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Here's some more information on "Fighting Words" to hopefully make useful distinctions of the law and discussion. I wondered if Trump's use of the phrase "Fight like hell..." on 1/6/21 was fighting words. Question: Did Trump use fighting words to the rioters on 1/6/21? AI overview: Whether Donald Trump used "fighting words" to the rioters on January 6, 2021, is a legally complex and highly debated question. While his words included aggressive language like "fight like hell," the legal standard for "fighting words" is extremely narrow and has not been applied to his case. More relevant to the legal proceedings that followed is the concept of incitement. Legal definition of "fighting words" Under U.S. constitutional law, "fighting words" is a narrow, judicially created exception to the First Amendment, established in the 1942 case Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. To qualify as "fighting words," the speech must be: Directed at an individual: It must be a face-to-face personal insult aimed at a specific person. Likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction: The average person would instinctively react with a punch or other violent act. Without informational content: The words have no purpose other than to provoke a fight. Because Trump was addressing a crowd rather than a single individual in a face-to-face encounter, his remarks on January 6 do not meet this specific legal threshold. Trump's January 6 speech: During his speech on the Ellipse, Trump used language that supporters and critics have interpreted differently. Aggressive language: He told the crowd, "We fight. We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore". A call to protest: He also said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard". Incitement vs. "fighting words": For the January 6 events, the legal standard of incitement is more relevant than "fighting words." Incitement to violence is a separate, more broadly defined category of unprotected speech that is governed by the Supreme Court's ruling in Brandenburg v. Ohio. Speech constitutes incitement if it is: Directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action. Likely to incite or produce such action. Legal proceedings: Legal charges regarding Trump's actions related to January 6 focused on other alleged crimes, such as conspiracy and obstruction, rather than on incitement or "fighting words". A federal criminal case filed against Trump in 2023 was ultimately dismissed in November 2024, after he won the presidential election, with the Special Counsel citing Justice Department policy against prosecuting a sitting president. Conclusion: While Trump's remarks on January 6 included aggressive and inflammatory language, they did not meet the very specific, narrow legal definition of "fighting words." Legal proceedings regarding his actions focused on other alleged criminal offenses, and the federal criminal case against him was later dismissed. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I've never seen the list but it seems like what I would expect the list to be. It certainly would put some limitations on postings. I was, at one time, a tobacco addict. That's right; I said it, addict. My father was an alcoholic, also an addict. I had two friends, also addicts, who committed suicide. Sorry but that's what happened. I had a sister who could only have been described as crazy. I, myself, am a certified cripple and have the disability certification to prove it. I don't feel that I am actually handicapped, however. Due to my location, appearance, and mannerisms, there may be those who would refer to me as a hillbilly. Makes sense since I come from Virginia hillbilly stock. I and my family are immigrants to Canada, with my daughter being the only born Canadian. She lives in Florida though. I think one is borderline insane to live there by choice, but they have their reasons. I think many of those reasons are kind of lame though. At least she didn't become a prostitute. I'm going to have to skip to the end here because I have to get into the shop and get my BR rifle whipped into shape. Hopefully I can get it to shoot straight. I'm a slave to my hobby. Regards, Bill. PS, Am I banned now? | |||
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Let's nick name you Quick Bill. ![]() Because you catch on quickly. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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So what did he expect that they were supposed to do? How were they supposed to fight like hell? Seems to me that they did pretty much what he wanted them to do. Quite likely IMO that some were schooled in advance about what to do. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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