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Rob Reiner Documentary on Christian Nationalism Features Interviews With Prominent Evangelicals
By Dale Chamberlain -December 8, 2023

https://www.hollywoodreporter....-trailer-1235728186/

“Christianity is in crisis,” Partland previously said about the film. “To be clear, Christianity is not the problem, and having one’s faith inform one’s political beliefs is not the problem. The problem is the intertwining of a Christian identity with a political identity such that it can be hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. The danger to democracy led me to explore this topic, but what I learned in the process is that the threat may be even greater to the Church itself.”

The trailer follows Democratic strategist James Carville declaring on Bill Maher’s Real Time last week that Christian nationalism was a massive threat facing the country. “This is a bigger threat than al-Qaeda to this country,” Carville said. “Let me tell you something, they got the speaker of the House, they got probably at least two Supreme Court justices, maybe more. Don’t kid yourself … this is a fundamental threat to the United States.”

Was Lane interviewed?

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Was Lane interviewed?

I think Lane is an exemplar of a Christian Nationalist. Interview one or two and as a practical matter you've interviewed them all.

Group-think is not quite the defining term, but close enough:

"Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when a group of individuals reaches a consensus without critical reasoning or evaluation of the consequences or alternatives. Groupthink is based on a common desire not to upset the balance of a group of people."

Another definition:

"Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs. This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation."

Think "Cult". After all, they have national organizations who regulate dogma.

The common thread is "psychological phenomenon", "consensus without critical reasoning or evaluation of the consequences or alternatives", conflation of politics and religion within personal and group identity. And they actually think they are individual thinkers capable of critical reasoning, but seldom demonstrate it except by accident.

Thank you for making this available.

Dr. Easter made a post about why Christian Nationalism is a good thing. He also tried to explain why making compulsory prayer a good thing.

As long as the state mandated prayer agrees with his perception of religion.

I am certainly not a christian nationalist, and can see some harms from them.

However, I do find the source (Rob Reiner) a bit of a flaming hypocrite, as is James Carville.

The threat to the nation from christian nationalism is that it essentially changes what the nation is, and what it is seen as supposed to be by people who are not of that group.

How can one not say that the socialists are and have done the same?

Look at the nation 40 years ago and now. Most of us who are old enough to have lived it can certainly see a difference... you may state its "better" but if its a transitional change, its no different than the christian nationalists.

I also read Dr. Easter's comments and apparently I read his words as very different than yours.

Where was compulsory involved in his statements? There is a big difference between having a time for a prayer (of your choice of religion) even if its led by teachers, and forcing folks to pray. Learning to stand respectfully for someone else's beliefs that you do not share is called tolerance, which is supposed to be something we are teaching.

The left's intolerance for folks who don't toe their belief structure in full display here.

I’ll take James Carville any day.

I remember when the Left turned on him for telling the truth about Sen. Sanders electability.


He was also part of an Administration that worked w a divided government.

Carville?
You kidding right?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I’ll take James Carville any day.
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the ragin cajun? you know jimmy is crazy, right? i mean, like, special jacket crazy

Carville will scream a lie in your face and call it truth.
An angry old prick, just taking up space until he dies.
The sun will shine a little brighter the day he does.

Other than that, probably a nice enough guy.

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the ragin cajun? you know jimmy is crazy, right? i mean, like, special jacket crazy

What if he's actually sane and has a good grasp on reality?

After all what's the probability of Al-Qaeda quashing democracy in the USA compared to Trumpism with 80% of his support from Christian Nationalists?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Thank you for making this available.

Dr. Easter made a post about why Christian Nationalism is a good thing. He also tried to explain why making compulsory prayer a good thing.

As long as the state mandated prayer agrees with his perception of religion.

You and Jines butt sniffing and leg humping of Doc Lane is pathetic and self defeating. You said, " I could be a judge someday!" Not if you keep up this immature Internet stalking you idiot punk.

Grow up kid. Get a life and check your keyboard emotions. Jines has an excuse, he's a dwarf, a Lilliputian. You do not.

Dont you remember Scott?
Emperor Heym said "It's my job" to police the PF.
Still waiting for Saeed to confirm hiring him.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I am certainly not a christian nationalist, and can see some harms from them.

However, I do find the source (Rob Reiner) a bit of a flaming hypocrite, as is James Carville.

The threat to the nation from christian nationalism is that it essentially changes what the nation is, and what it is seen as supposed to be by people who are not of that group.

How can one not say that the socialists are and have done the same?

Look at the nation 40 years ago and now. Most of us who are old enough to have lived it can certainly see a difference... you may state its "better" but if its a transitional change, its no different than the christian nationalists.

I also read Dr. Easter's comments and apparently I read his words as very different than yours.

Where was compulsory involved in his statements? There is a big difference between having a time for a prayer (of your choice of religion) even if its led by teachers, and forcing folks to pray. Learning to stand respectfully for someone else's beliefs that you do not share is called tolerance, which is supposed to be something we are teaching.

The left's intolerance for folks who don't toe their belief structure in full display here.

Well written!

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I’ll take James Carville any day.

I remember when the Left turned on him for telling the truth about Sen. Sanders electability.


He was also part of an Administration that worked w a divided government.

I'm sure you would.......

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Thank you for making this available.

Dr. Easter made a post about why Christian Nationalism is a good thing. He also tried to explain why making compulsory prayer a good thing.

As long as the state mandated prayer agrees with his perception of religion.

You and Jines butt sniffing and leg humping of Doc Lane is pathetic and self defeating. You said, " I could be a judge someday!" Not if you keep up this immature Internet stalking you idiot punk.

Grow up kid. Get a life and check your keyboard emotions. Jines has an excuse, he's a dwarf, a Lilliputian. You do not.

Amen brother!!!

I searched on the question "what if Christian Nationalism wins":

Here's the results:

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

Christian nationalism is just a convenient euphemism for “I know what is best for you and therefore you need to do what I tell you to do”. Religion in school is fine, so long as it is my religion. My view of sexuality is right, yours therefore must be abnormal and needs to be condemned. I believe a non-viable fetus is a person so all women need to be forced to carry a fetus to term regardless of the circumstances of its conception (rape or incest), whether it has a fatal deformity, etc. Christian nationalism is antithetical to any notion of libertarianism. It seeks uniformity and conformity. Not surprising that Lane chooses to ignore the hypocrisy.

you can pick where to draw the line -- 1950, 1960, 1970 - any of those presidents would be considered a christian nationalist - i mean the world was clutching their pearls over the first catholic president in 1960

Not seeing that. Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson . . . christian nationalists? I don’t think so. Not even a close call.

Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy all used Christian theology and verbiage in their official acts. They were also religious people.

Nixon was pretty problematic. He professed Christian faith, he used Christian concepts, and he was very much willing to utilize any means to gain a desired goal.

Johnson was a vulgar, hedonistic, immoral man in the details who somehow was selecting moral overall goals. He refused to run for re-election because he thought he would lose. And he certainly was not above using religious concepts or beliefs to further his goals.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Christian nationalism is just a convenient euphemism for “I know what is best for you and therefore you need to do what I tell you to do”. Religion in school is fine, so long as it is my religion. My view of sexuality is right, yours therefore must be abnormal and needs to be condemned. I believe a non-viable fetus is a person so all women need to be forced to carry a fetus to term regardless of the circumstances of its conception (rape or incest), whether it has a fatal deformity, etc. Christian nationalism is antithetical to any notion of libertarianism. It seeks uniformity and conformity. Not surprising that Lane chooses to ignore the hypocrisy.

And isn’t that Democrats mantra as well?
I’d say it is human nature
Hell, you act that way at times on here as well

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...8a1e445877ed80&ei=39

'Deception and hatred': How political extremism made evangelicals 'angry and antagonistic'

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Christian nationalism is just a convenient euphemism for “I know what is best for you and therefore you need to do what I tell you to do”. Religion in school is fine, so long as it is my religion. My view of sexuality is right, yours therefore must be abnormal and needs to be condemned. I believe a non-viable fetus is a person so all women need to be forced to carry a fetus to term regardless of the circumstances of its conception (rape or incest), whether it has a fatal deformity, etc. Christian nationalism is antithetical to any notion of libertarianism. It seeks uniformity and conformity. Not surprising that Lane chooses to ignore the hypocrisy.

And isn’t that Democrats mantra as well?
I’d say it is human nature
Hell, you act that way at times on here as well

Christian Nationalism seeks the imposition of a single party system where the state identifies with, endorses, and enforces a narrow religious ideological view within the civil government. It is the end of secular government, multi party, and religious freedom.

The state, the citizen, and the policy thereof are United and inseparable by this narrow religious view.

It seeks to turn the US into a religious theocracy.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Carville will scream a lie in your face and call it truth.
An angry old prick, just taking up space until he dies.
The sun will shine a little brighter the day he does.

Other than that, probably a nice enough guy.

Carville tells way more truth than Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham and the rest of the lying conservative entertainment industry.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...id=socialshare&ei=12

Jason Stanley on "undermining propaganda" with fascism: "Trump is robbing democracy of any meaning"
Opinion by Chauncey DeVega • 14h

Where the hell have I ever quoted anything by Hannety, Carlson or those others MM?
No disagreement of your post content, but not as a reply to me, with nothing to back it up.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I’ll take James Carville any day.
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the ragin cajun? you know jimmy is crazy, right? i mean, like, special jacket crazy

Carville bursts bubbles, and likes doing it. He will happily burst a Democrat's bubble with unpleasant truths as well as Republican ones.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...785c44f19d5edc&ei=31

What should we make of evangelical influencers teaming up with filmmaker Rob Reiner?
Opinion by Religion News Service • 15h

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b00ba14988b2df&ei=20

'Viewing their faith through the prism of politics': How Evangelicals ended up in the Trump camp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/vide...acS?ocid=socialshare

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They talk about "transactional". It's still transactional - the relationship of Trump and Christians.