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I’m sure that not one of our little gay-haters will watch this movie. They prefer to keep and treasure and caress their hate. The new documentary 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture, makes a detailed, fascinating argument that Biblical references to homosexuality may be mistranslations. That’s right: The film argues that the so-called “clobber passages” in the Bible used to justify discrimination may not have originally said what so many people think they say. The film goes deep into explaining how the modern-day English translations of the Bible came to be. It says that the first time the word “homosexual” appeared in any Bible was in 1946, when the team working on the Revised Standard Version of the Bible erroneously combined two independent words into English. The film says this error has been used to justify much of the hatred directed at LGBTQ people. 1946 director Sharon “Rocky” Roggio thinks the film could change some Christian minds — if they just watch it. She has already seen some Christian churches try to prevent that from happening. You can listen to our full interview with her in the latest MovieMaker podcast, available on Apple or Spotify or below. Roggio has a very real understanding of how Biblical debates over homosexuality can strain families: She is the lesbian daughter of a Christian preacher, who is prominently featured in the film, and hopes she will one day settle down with a nice Christian man. But she and her father love each other, and are committed to trying to change each other’s hearts and minds. How to Watch 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture The film hasn’t even come out yet — it has made the film festival rounds for months, and will be in theaters in December, then available to stream. But she is well aware of the fact that some anti-gay groups have already shot it down, without watching it first. “We’ve already had major pushback, even before the movie has been released, so that people who don’t want to listen to us already are calling us all sorts of names, and debunking our movie. I mean, we’ve had hundreds of radio shows, podcasts, YouTube videos, sermons, news articles — we had someone write a book about our movie debunking our movie. So we’d love for them to watch the film and actually then maybe do a critique on it instead of prior to watching the film. And then whatever they think of the film, that’s their opinion,” Roggio says. She knows people with the most extreme anti-gay positions won’t like 1946. But she hopes open-minded and open-hearted people who fill the pews every Sunday might give it a chance. “We know that there are people sitting in those church buildings, listening to those radio shows, who we call the movable middle, who in their heart might feel that there’s something off about this, or maybe they’re torn one way or the other. And we hope that they move with us,” she says. “They lean more toward being loving, inclusive, and looking at how Bible translations are made, how we interpret the Bible, and how we use the Bible, and how that use becomes put out into society. How dangerous it can be, but also how wonderful it can be. So yeah, we’re working on that movable middle.” Roggio, who also appears in the film alongside her father, wants to be very clear that she isn’t anti-Christian, and doesn’t hate anti-gay Christians. “The answer is not less religion,” she says. “The answer is more affirming religion, more people who see that Christianity is a social justice movement, not a movement to start eliminating everyone’s rights who don’t look or think like you.” Also Read: Ridley Scott Q&A on Making Napoleon — the Story That Eluded His Friend Stanley Kubrick The release of the film’s timing just before Christmas makes sense. “We all want peace on earth,” Roggio says. “We’d love safety for all of our citizens and all people around the world. We just want to live and let live but also do what’s morally right. You know, we’re not out to be causing harm in society. We need to have a serious conversation together. And we already know we have a seat at the table. And so hopefully, we can all sit down together and discuss this.” 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture, arrives in theaters in December and will be available on video on demand soon. You can follow here for updates. | ||
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Leviticus 18 and 20 seem pretty clear cut to me...... . | |||
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So why no crusade against neighbor-fuckers? "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Jextex, you take Leviticus seriously? | |||
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No one cares about homosexuals where I live. Everyone does their thing and works hard. I think your assessment that most of America hates gays is way off unless it is that way in your cities. Rural America must just be very different? Most people DO NOT CARE what you do in private. What they do care about is being called names, being falsely categorized and being forced to change their lives for no reason. They don't want their children exposed to it. They don't want their children exposed to any segment that is over sexualized. Keep it in your home. Live they way you want. Don't force it upon anyone else. These very posts do just that, to serve one purpose, to attempt to make a big effing deal out of something that is not. ~Ann | |||
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Well, Ann, it ain’t blue states that are trying to limit gays’ freedoms. It sounds to me like your are ok with it if they go back into the shadows, the closets. Do you think gays should have right to marry, to put their spouse on their health insurance policy? I actually think that you are being honest and you perceive that gays are the threat to you, rather than the other way around. Hey, speaking of shadows, come on and tell us how much faith you put into Leviticus. | |||
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I don't know which red states are trying to infringe on gay rights??? And of course I take the bible seriously..... Why would you even wonder? I care nothing about what consenting ADULTS do....as long as they don't expect me to think that a he rent behavior is normal.... . | |||
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weird, dinger only seems to come out of the closet for LBGQ+ issues--- there something you want to tell the group, dinger? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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There is the issue in denying equality. Of course, it is your right to think so. Luckily, the law does not agree. I also have never seen the condemnation of homosexuality found in the Old Testament carried over to the New. I do remember Peter being told, “ What I have called clean let no man call unclean.” This verse has been used to remove the rukes of Kosher, and the idea only a certain sect could be saved. It is not changing anyone’s life to be exploded to gay people in the same ways you accept being exposed to straight people in public. | |||
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Jefferrso, or who ever the fuck you are, the innuendo that I might be gay cuts so very deep. The truth is that I simply don’t post on here much anymore. It was fun for awhile, but you pea brains kinda tend to bore one after a bit. | |||
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Are you saying the Bible was changed in 1946 to prohibit homosexuality for the first time? Call me skeptical. Wouldn't there be people still alive who remember the old version and call the change into question? The taboo against homosexuality dates back centuries, if not millennia. | |||
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Seems no one can explain anything to you, Doug. BTW- I have plenty of gay friends. They agree with my assessments. I do realize things are different in urban America. The "it's all about me" selfish behavior runs rampant there. ~Ann | |||
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Sure thing, dinger ,,, i've only been here for nearly 2 decades longer than you .. whoever i am i didn't say you are gay, just noted when you come out of the closet seems interesting.. but, you know, the world is odd, i got called a soy boy liberal the other day.. i haven't laughed that much in awhile opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I think it is just fine for gays to be able to put their partners on their health insurance or receive any other spousal benefits. This, providing ANYONE can do the same. Sexual activity should play no part. So, if a guy wants to add his cousin or a close friend to his health coverage, go for it. The door has been opened. Let's face it; today, marriage is virtually meaningless anyway. Regards, Bill. | |||
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BTW- I live in a red state. Homosexuals do marry here. They have the same rights as the rest of us. I don't know where you get your info? ~Ann | |||
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Excellent Bill Thought the same about it Most young people don’t get married anymore Divorces are so expensive , why would anyone get married in first place but if same sex marriage is so important to people then good luck when you wanna get divorce… Nothing like standing over your own kill | |||
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Marriage defunct now (I am not disagreeing.). The epitome of the breakdown of society. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Big part of it Lane is judicial process in divorce proceedings It drags through courts, money drains, kids suffer and lawyers are loving it so I think young people are somewhat learning from it Nothing like standing over your own kill | |||
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