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https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/09...emergency/index.html

It is an interesting move, whether it can stand is yet to be seen, but I like a governor that cares about the people that live within their state.

Then you have Texas governor Abbott sitting in his chair, staring at his meat, waiting for the next Ft Hood, Dallas, Sutherland Springs, Santa Fe High, the next El Paso, Midland-Odessa, Uvalde, the next Allen. What a great leader. Makes you want to puke.
 
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You mean "NM Governor's dictatorial decree doomed to be found illegal"

I mean, you know, "no gun zones" always work.


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And criminals will stop carrying guns…


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Yep, bank robbers will leave their guns outside because of a sign. Demorats are dumb
 
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The first level of analysis will focus on the NM State’s State of Emergency Statute on two parts: 1) does the statute permit the Governor to declare a state of emergency in this specific fact pattern and, assuming 1 is answered in the affirmative, 2) does the statute permit a governor to so suspend the carrying of firearms when a due state of emergency is declared?

Those questions have to be resolved bf addressing the protection provided by the 2nd Amendment incorporated against the states through the 14th. The New York decision is very wonky. I am actually briefing it now in a criminal possession of a firearm upon school property we are prosecuting. The Fed courts do not know how to apply it because the Opinion requires more than just a Strict Scrutiny analysis.
 
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So she sitting on her sorry arse and stopping crimes, so she punishes law abiding citizens?

Typical stupid political Bimbo! clap


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The first level of analysis will focus on the NM State’s State of Emergency Statute on two sun parts: 1) does the statute permit the Governor to declare a state of emergency in this specific fact pattern and, assuming 1 is answered in the affirmative, and 2) does the statute permit a governor to do suspend the carrying of firearms when a due state of emergency is declared?

Those questions have to be resolved bf addressing the protection provided by the 2nd Amendment incorporated against the states through the 14th. The New York decision is very wonky. I am actually briefing it now in a criminal possession of a firearm upon school property we are prosecuting. The Fed courts do not know how to apply it because the Opinion requires more than just a Strict Scrutiny analysis.


prima facia it is a direct violation of the 2a -- one doesn't punish the victims to stop criminals


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I don't know if it will run the 30 days or be stricken in Court, and I don't know if it will be extended if it stands, but it will reduce injuries and deaths however long it stays in effect.

All serious research not bought by gun companies shows the same thing: more people carrying equals more people shot. Minor arguments end in gunfire, as do fender benders.


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The first level of analysis will focus on the NM State’s State of Emergency Statute on two sun parts: 1) does the statute permit the Governor to declare a state of emergency in this specific fact pattern and, assuming 1 is answered in the affirmative, and 2) does the statute permit a governor to do suspend the carrying of firearms when a due state of emergency is declared?

Those questions have to be resolved bf addressing the protection provided by the 2nd Amendment incorporated against the states through the 14th. The New York decision is very wonky. I am actually briefing it now in a criminal possession of a firearm upon school property we are prosecuting. The Fed courts do not know how to apply it because the Opinion requires more than just a Strict Scrutiny analysis.


prima facia it is a direct violation of the 2a -- one doesn't punish the victims to stop criminals


That is not a recognized legal principle when analyzing these matters.

The closest the Court has ever come to saying that is in Search and Seizure 4th Amendment analysis. That presumption, a word I am using to summarize a bunch more, is over come by recognized exceptions.
 
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I like how she said, in her press conference, they couldn't just arrest all the criminals, because there were too many of them. She, more less, said that restricting the law abiding citizens would "send a message". Just what this message might be, nobody knows. The governor is a criminal herself. Regards, Bill.
 
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The quickest way to kill this off is through the legislature. Assuming, the body is in session, and can override a veto.

Now, that I think about it; a preliminary injunction would be quicker. Those things use be a lot more difficult to get. Now, they seem more default while this stuff works its way through the meat grinder.
 
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The quickest way to kill this off is through the legislature. Assuming, the body is in session, and can override a veto.

There's no Veto to override, she declared a public health emergency.

Now, that I think about it; a preliminary injunction would be quicker. Those things use be a lot more difficult to get. Now, they seem more default while this stuff works its way through the meat grinder.
The Public Health Emergency Response Act grants the Governor wide discretion a court would be hesitant to interfere with.


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Change the Statute to prevent her from having this pier specifically. KY did it.

Every state has an Emergency Power/Public Emergency act that says what, when, and how a Governor can perform in a state of emergency. Change that statute, and she is declawed. Specifically, state in the legislation, No Governor shall for a period of X day (or at all) suspend wo the approval of the Legislature by 2/3rd vote the right of every NM citizen to legally carry arms during a declared state of emergency.”

There wo a veto she and the action are done.
 
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I believe this is a violation of section 1 of the 14th and the 2nd. If a state cannot legislate around the constitution, then a governor cannot do it by decree. She doesn’t care about helping her citizens, she just wants to help herself.
 
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I don't know if it will run the 30 days or be stricken in Court, and I don't know if it will be extended if it stands, but it will reduce injuries and deaths however long it stays in effect.

All serious research not bought by gun companies shows the same thing: more people carrying equals more people shot. Minor arguments end in gunfire, as do fender benders.


Most of the shootings are carried out by people that are prohibited from carrying because of past crimes. Their going to carry whether it's legal for them to do so or not.
 
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Originally posted by Jefffive:
I don't know if it will run the 30 days or be stricken in Court, and I don't know if it will be extended if it stands, but it will reduce injuries and deaths however long it stays in effect.

All serious research not bought by gun companies shows the same thing: more people carrying equals more people shot. Minor arguments end in gunfire, as do fender benders.


Most of the shootings are carried out by people that are prohibited from carrying because of past crimes. Their going to carry whether it's legal for them to do so or not.


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The judge issued a TRO or temporary restraining order prohibiting enforcement of her emergency order this afternoon. I think she thought that a 30 day timeframe would have ended up mooting all the challenges.

https://saf.org/court-grants-t...-gun-rights-lawsuit/


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Brandon has an answer for Granma Kennie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F3rTt2faeY


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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/...n-grisham-rcna104701 Good intentions, but unintended consequences and slippery slopes.
 
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