But just something I think we all have in common on this forum. A firearm bargain.

I lost the Bolt for my old BRNO a while back and so far have not been able to find it or a replacement. I now really need a .22 and I was thinking that Id get a CZ457 later in the year after my trip too the states was out of the way.

Anyway I needed something in the meantime and thought Id pop up too the local shop and see if they had a cheapie on the racks that would get me through. They didn't but the owner said he had a couple out back that had just come in that he hadn't checked over or tested for accuracy. we went out back and he handed me a Mauser 201. I didn't know much about these but I could see it was way better quality than I had anticipated and though he was asking a bit more than I had thought to pay when I walked in the door, I told him I think Id regret not buying that and he agreed.

So I payed the money and came home and checked it out. Bloody hell im impressed! No plastic or stamped components, Duel locking lugs, walnut stock with I presume, rosewood tip. Beautiful little palm swell in grip, fully adjustable trigger.

It came with steel mounts and a Weaver K4 scope.

A quick sight in showed it will take the eye out of a cat at 40 meters.

It's in near as new condition as a 40 year old gun could be, just a bit of dust and grease grime on stock from storage in a safe really.

I dont think Ill be buying the 457 now.

All up I spent around 250 USD

Nice find!

Has a superb bolt and excellent trigger. Believe they have pillar bedding and crowning too. Some consider these one of best post-war 22 LRs made.

Exceptional. Especially in these days, exceptional.

Tomorrow I'm going for the day looking for a moose with a friend. During today's conversation we were considering his different rifles and I suggested his -06. He mentioned his ar10 in 308 enough that I agreed that'd work fine. Yuck. I'm going to carry something similar to the Mauser above but in 458.

I just don't have anything anymore for these modern rifles.

I must admit I get really conflicted. There is something intrinsically special about carrying, looking at, and using these older guns, made when no corners were cut.

But there is also the expedience of carbon and stainless steel, and the portability of the new lite weight weapons.

A mix of both is called for I think.

That's right: a man always needs another rifle.

I am not with you two at all.

Modern sporting rifles demonstrate technology, nothing more. The ability to program a machine, a computer to cut precisely is straight up Arnold Schwarzenegger Terminator shit, nothing more.

Wood stocks are chosen based on the artistic eye.
Castings become sculpture, engraving becomes art.

There isn't a modern sporting rifle that can perform like a Remington 722 in 257 Roberts, a Winchester model 70 in 375 H&H, or a Mauser 98 in 8×06.

I've got a Zastava LH in 6.5x55 I'd like to give to my little girl that she'd hopefully kill a buck with some day. I wouldn't even consider for a moment passing down to her an AR.

I must say, the only rifle that belongs to another man that I covert is a pre 64, Model 70 in 375 H&H. The perfect marriage of beauty, usability and style.

But when Im high up a mountain in foul, wet, rocky country. Thats damaging to the soul. let alone the stock and blueing of a fine gun. Then I most prefer my Barret fieldcraft rifle/walking stick.

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There isn't a modern sporting rifle that can perform like a Remington 722 in 257 Roberts, a Winchester model 70 in 375 H&H, or a Mauser 98 in 8×06.

I'll take issue with that. I believe most of the newer rifles are more accurate than 90 percent of the old-timers.

I do love wood stocks a lot more than the synthetics. But especially in AK, a synthetic stock is more practical and reliable.

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There isn't a modern sporting rifle that can perform like a Remington 722 in 257 Roberts, a Winchester model 70 in 375 H&H, or a Mauser 98 in 8×06.

I'll take issue with that. I believe most of the newer rifles are more accurate than 90 percent of the old-timers.

I do love wood stocks a lot more than the synthetics. But especially in AK, a synthetic stock is more practical and reliable.

I'm taking a McMillan stock out tomorrow.

But the gun was crafted as a traditional sporting rifle. Straight bolt handle, timney trigger, hold four down and the bolt has been modified to be able to drop one in and close the bolt. Fixed 3x scope. A barrel band sling swivel and a zebra skin rifle sling.

And "more accurate "? What the actual F does that mean? I have a 257 Roberts that will group 3/8" at 100 yds, the 458 cloverleafs 450g TSX's and I had a 25-06 that would one hole 75g Sierras. ( true, blew the primer pockets out of every cartridge, but damn it was a laser!).

I have no interest in a 30 round mag when I can kill it dead with the first shot.

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I have no interest in a 30 round mag when I can kill it dead with the first shot.

I thought we were talking about real hunting rifles, bolt-actions and single-shots. If you need thirty rounds, you shouldn't be allowed to hunt.

I have a Ruger 77 in .300 WM that shoots three-shot 3/8-inch groups, when I do my part and haven't drunk too much coffee.

I like one-shot kills, but have had to punch moose twice a couple times when they kept walking, not realizing they were dead already.

Yeah! that first shot should be a surprise/shock if it misses.

I am a big fan of the old mantra, beware the man with one gun, he will know how to use it.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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I have no interest in a 30 round mag when I can kill it dead with the first shot.

I thought we were talking about real hunting rifles, bolt-actions and single-shots. If you need thirty rounds, you shouldn't be allowed to hunt.

I have a Ruger 77 in .300 WM that shoots three-shot 3/8-inch groups, when I do my part and haven't drunk too much coffee.

I like one-shot kills, but have had to punch moose twice a couple times when they kept walking, not realizing they were dead already.

I think too much coffee is worse for accuracy than too much beer.

I was respectfully trying to talk another friend here into taking his Model 70 300H&H or Model 70375H&H out this weekend. He kept falling back to one of his 7x61 Sharp and Harts.

I don't get it.

Years ago I took my uncles Model 95 Chilean Mauser in 7x57 out for moose. 175g Hornadays I think. We had a nice big bull step out in front of us and I proceeded to empty the rifle and thumb singles down the pipe. The 7x57 was hitting that bull more like a bow and arrow than a rifle and was just punching holes thru with little shock. The bull went about 150 yards as I pummeled it with Hornadays and finally fell over.
The 7x57 has stayed in the gun safe ever since.