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Neither are worthy choices but it seems we won't have any possible chance of a change until 2028. ~Ann | |||
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I notice the Taliban seem to have traded in their AKs for shiny new ARs. Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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Oh, Well then, I guess we need a fascist dictator. | |||
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Pretty big talk from a gutless coward treasonous traitor who was a fake 5 time fake draft dodger..... | |||
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I'll opt for "deranged fascist lunatic" with millions of supporters, and many more apologists. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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His stutter jammed him up a couple of times but you have to be really determined to find senility in this: https://youtu.be/hxok6DpK5lI?si=kfnYhhYMIAsSxavh Worth noting he wasn't laughed at. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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https://youtu.be/XfktScIHrkA?si=Y7UcrKVl24D829S8 ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I don`t comprehend that those two are the best options for the US. There has be many people more qualified with 330+ millions in your country. | |||
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You are so correct about that. Probably "we" don't comprehend that either. We might as well be living in a foreign country. Lately, according to surveys, polls, whatever, hardly anyone is satisfied with either candidate, Biden or Trump. There are some articles on the topic. Some herein don't like it when I appeal to authority using articles, but those authors/journalists are far more informed that I. Frankly I don't find either article with a satisfying answer. The first one is better than the second one, IMO. My take on it is that Trump dominates or bullies those who have any power in politics to do things they wouldn't otherwise do just to keep their jobs. He's a loyalist freak. The "establishment" kowtows to him, feeds off his power, multiplies it, and sees opportunity in the chaos to achieve some long-standing far-right goals. Trump is leveraging his base and the "system" by degree and means, unprecedented in the US, IMO. It's astounding to realize that he is leveraging Christians for political power, with lies and promises, stoking fear and loathing, worldview and ideology and culture war. Drill down - that means that Trump has not only hijacked a political party, millions of syncopates, but in addition he's hijacked Christianity to leverage political power through his base, bottom up. If that's what's happening with the Democrats, regarding Biden, they must be doing a good job of hiding it because I don't see it. They must be just going with electability, name recognition, and trying to stick with policy, etc. Another thing, with Trump and Trumpism as a threat, it may be that the Dem establishment just aren't willing to take a risk with challenging an incumbent Biden. Kick the can down the road four more years. https://news.yahoo.com/2024-el...UrYM19w0oqnuoAzLm92c 2024 election: Why Americans are stuck with Biden vs. Trump for now Jon Ward Chief National Correspondent August 21, 2023·6 min read https://www.washingtonpost.com...24-election-options/ 3 reasons we’re stuck with Trump and Biden By Megan McArdle Columnist May 30, 2023 at 7:00 a.m. EDT ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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There are. We are looking at a manipulation of the electorate. These guys are figureheads at the beck and call of big donors. Biden has been in Washington so long that he can keep up appearances in his sleep. And he does. Can he make critical decisions? Remains to be seen. Hope none of them are extinction-related. Trump has no political philosophy, appears to manipulate the system as he finds it for his own purposes. He signs the papers he's given to sign, may or may not grok the consequences. He hires people to think for him. I'll opine that he is his grandfather's grandson. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Anybody remember which Bush Trump ran against in 2016? He doesn't... https://twitter.com/i/status/1706391623691612400 "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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It looks like both of them just have a lot of disadvantages. Seems like a classic case of pest or cholera! Most people will just vote along their party lines anyway. Just hope that the primaries could throw both of them out! Get someone better, someone that people would respect as the president even though you didn`t vote for him. | |||
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Every country in the world deals with it and we are no different Sometimes you have good leader and at times you end up with shit Nothing like standing over your own kill | |||
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and -- Biden thought he was running for senator - can we not compare uglies? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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When the Shah is a fool, he attacks Dagestan... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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To hear you guys talk, the MAGA types are brainwashed fascists. So what is the Democrat’s excuse for putting up a guy who can’t stay on track long enough to do a full press conference? | |||
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Bingo . . . or just stupid. Mike | |||
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So we're just supposed to give the guy publicly calling for the death penalty for the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs for doing exactly what he was ordered to do a pass? The one whose entire top of his Administration has either been convicted of felonies, is currently under indictment or, without exception, says he's an idiot who should never be allowed near power again? Because Joe stutters? "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Until Dems start calling out the loony bizarre progressives in their party they will never get my vote. It’s imperative, and I’m not the only one who knows it. Sadly many fellow hunters and shooters on here suffer from it as well. Some worse than others. "What happened is, overeducated, coastal White people, got ahold of the word and [like] they do with everything else, they completely f---ed it up and p----- everybody in the country off," he said bluntly. "If we could just get the humanities faculty at Amherst [College] to shut the f--- up, we'd be a lot better off." Carville | |||
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Worth noting that one of the two was just found liable for bank and insurance fraud and ordered to dissolve ALL BUSINESSES HE, HIS SONs OR HIS CFO OWN IN THE STATE! He is no longer permitted to conduct business in the financial capitol of the Country he seeks to mislead, again. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Just about the time I start thinking you may have escaped the cult and could lead a productive life, you say something stupid, like the above. Roll the tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5x2ZR0DIyM ("Ooh, there's a mosquito!") Senile is GOOD, Deranged Fascist is BAD. That is all the MAGA Minions need to know, and they can't even understand that. | |||
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Trump: "Putin is a Genius" "Hezbollah is very smart" | |||
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Democrats think Trump should not be re-elected. Republicans think Biden should not be re-elected. Might both be right, for a change. Refreshing to see bipartisan agreement... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Anybody who "thinks" Trump should ever hold power outside his own jail cell automatically disqualifies themselves from all other "thinking" assignments. Not everybody can do everything. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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the best statement I have heard in a long time! | |||
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Yeah, "both sides"... We have evidence, presented in several Courts in several jurisdictions conclusively demonstrating to a moral certainty that Trump is, and always has been, a liar and a fraud. We have the parroted accusations from Fox News (admitted liars) that Joe Biden is senile because he sometimes stutters, as he has for 60+ years, while at the same time claiming that he's the mastermind behind an international crime cartel. Neither of which seems to be keeping him from kicking Republicans' asses on the regular. Definitely a "both sides" situation... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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This is a perfect example of not using the same measurement for both sides -- Did both of these geriatrics have brain farts ? yep --- Is trump an idiot? likely - and the court cases are certainly exposing nefarious actions - the worst part? There are still people that will want him to be the republican candidate, after all this. Jeff - look - i am not on "your side" but I am not disagreeing with you opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Must be simply awful for you "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Don't misunderstand me, I think Joe has it together and understands our government like no Presidents since the Johnson/Nixon cycle, and if he gets a second term with Democratic majorities in both Houses he could be the most influential President since FDR. But there is a part of me that hopes he resigns the day after the Inauguration and President Harris nominates Pete Buttigieg as Veep, quickly confirmed by the Senate. Might stock up on ingot molds just in case, there would be melted-down Republicans running down every drainage ditch in the Country... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Or brainwashed AND stupid... -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Or brainwashed, indoctrinated, stupid - perfect Fascist fodder. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://youtu.be/5GOjAGhjr9I?si=r1uv3kW8NwgrbdX7 I will never turn my back on the Constitution: Gen. Milley pushes back against Trump remarks ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Most national elections during the last twenty years have involved picking between the lesser of two evils. The electoral college may not be the best judge of these evil candidates. While the citizens need to be intelligent enough to consider which candidate might be best for the country. {Let them vote-we will do the counting-STALIN} If good men do not concern themselves with politics, they may become the subjects of evil men--PLATO Which is worse? Criminal acts not prosecuted before a President takes office, or criminal acts taking place by a sitting President with the aid of family members? Alternatively, which candidate has done the most good for the USA-or which candidate has objectively done the most harm to the country? "We are conservative-because we have much to conserve." An English citizen EX-Pat in Mexico Avatar | |||
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In a democracy there can be no greater crime than trying to overthrow democracy itself for one's own self interest. Republicans started dallying with it under Reagan, cutting a deal to prevent the hostages from being released, then Bush pardoned everybody who would have to testify against him over the missile sales and weapons to the Contras, but no President in our history has ever just frontally attempted to supplant the Rule of Law until Trump, nor has any former President ever advocated for the Constitution to be suspended so he could regain power until Trump. He will never be prosecuted for even a quarter of the crimes he committed while in office, but conviction on even 10% of that 25% will leave him to die in prison in disgrace. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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