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This is a total violation of judicial codes of conduct any other judges have to adhered to. Any other Judge who did this and did not recuse would be sanctioned.

Justice Alito knows this is improper. I would downs every working day if I were in the House trying to impeach him.

If my voters did not like that, so be it.

He has lied to the Senate in confirmation, and now he has done this.
 
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This would be shocking, except we are talking about Trump and the new GOP, now it's just standard operating procedure. Win at all costs, it's the only thing that matters. Disgusting to say the least.
 
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Any other judge would be sanctioned if they made contact w a party and asked for something while remaining to adjudicate the claim.

No ifs, ands, nor buts about it.
 
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito spoke with President-elect Donald Trump about a former law clerk the day before Trump went to the high court in a push to delay the sentencing in his New York hush-money case, the justice said Wednesday.

Alito said he took the call Tuesday afternoon from Trump at the request of his former law clerk, William Levi, to recommend him for a job in the upcoming administration. The two did not discuss the upcoming emergency motion, or any other court matters, Alito said.

“I was not even aware at the time of our conversation that such an application would be filed,” he said in the statement. They also did not discuss any other matters that could come before the court in the future, the I’m conservative justice said. Justices often recommend former clerks in high demand for top government and law firm jobs, but a direct call with a president appears unusual and comes as Trump has business before the court.

Levi served in the Justice Department during Trump’s first term as chief of staff to then-Attorney General Bill Barr. He clerked for Alito from 2011 to 2012.


So let me get this straight. Trump calls Alito in a normal course of action. Alito takes the call because it pertains to a matter that involves a person he cares about and it is a routine action commonly conducted. Nothing was discussed except the matter in which the call was made.

So now…a judge cannot have an opinion on a case because a filing was made too soon after the conversation — one he had no idea was going to be made in that timeframe?

Is that what you are saying?


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WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito spoke with President-elect Donald Trump about a former law clerk the day before Trump went to the high court in a push to delay the sentencing in his New York hush-money case, the justice said Wednesday.

Alito said he took the call Tuesday afternoon from Trump at the request of his former law clerk, William Levi, to recommend him for a job in the upcoming administration. The two did not discuss the upcoming emergency motion, or any other court matters, Alito said.

“I was not even aware at the time of our conversation that such an application would be filed,” he said in the statement. They also did not discuss any other matters that could come before the court in the future, the I’m conservative justice said. Justices often recommend former clerks in high demand for top government and law firm jobs, but a direct call with a president appears unusual and comes as Trump has business before the court.

Levi served in the Justice Department during Trump’s first term as chief of staff to then-Attorney General Bill Barr. He clerked for Alito from 2011 to 2012.


So let me get this straight. Trump calls Alito in a normal course of action. Alito takes the call because it pertains to a matter that involves a person he cares about and it is a routine action commonly conducted. Nothing was discussed except the matter in which the call was made.

So now…a judge cannot have an opinion on a case because a filing was made too soon after the conversation — one he had no idea was going to be made in that timeframe?

Is that what you are saying?


Trump should never have called him! rotflmo


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I dont get the outrage.
Nothing had been filed.
Trump called to talk about a clerk he may hire.
If Trump asked no questions about his case that Alito had no knowledge it may come to him at the time of the call.... so what?

Did you put on your thong panties this AM Heym? Binding a little maybe?
 
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I agree that it’s likely much ado about nothing, but the judiciary is supposed to preserve against even the appearance of impropriety.

It’s a bad look for both Trump and Alito.

If Trump is looking at getting a reference on an ex clerk, there are better ways to do it given he has people who can do the intermediary thing as POTUS elect.

It’s on both Trump and Alito to avoid appearances.

If Trump and Alito are good personal friends, that’s supposed to be a reason to recuse yourself.
 
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We were told it was a big nothing when Bill Clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch when Hillary was being investigated.
That is OK, but asking about a clerk is not?
 
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We were told it was a big nothing when Bill Clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch when Hillary was being investigated.
That is OK, but asking about a clerk is not?



Well, I was complaining of that event back when, so it would be a bit hypocritical to not complain of Trump doing similar.

But yes, the left’s hypocrisy is evident.

I like to think we (conservatives) are better than that.
 
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Business has to go on in the light of checks and balances. If professionals can’t be trusted to have a simple non related conversation about separate pieces of business and still do their job…we have bigger problems.

I don’t even see the hint of impropriety in this instance.

It is not even comparable to Loretta Lynch setting up a private meeting with Clinton on the tarmac when he had NO business whatsoever with Lynch at the time — except to put in the fix.


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Let us have Dr. Easter be a party to a case, then let is have the judge hearing that case call and ask his party opponent die a favor bring a job reference for judge’s clerk, finally let us have that judge not recuse.

I wonder how Dr. Easter would feel about the judge’s contacts w an adversary party then?

I done know.
 
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Exactly what favor was done Joshua?


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Justice Alito asked for a job reference for one of his clerk’s; so this, he needed to recuse.

To remain on this case, would get any other judge sanctioned.

Justice Alito should withdraw. If the S. Ct., was subject to codes of conduct, he would be forced to recuse.

I can’t believe it has come to this.
 
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The fact they did have other business to discuss is exactly why the Justice shouldn't have been talking to Trump.

Even the dullest Americans (you know, those who voted for Trump) know that Trump has appeals and petitions pending or soon upcoming before the Supreme Court.
 
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It was a former clerk. So what leverage could be held over Alito? It sounded like Trump called to ask about the former clerk, not the other way around.
 
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Justice Alito asked for a job reference for one of his clerk’s; so this, he needed to recuse.

To remain on this case, would get any other judge sanctioned.

Justice Alito should withdraw. If the S. Ct., was subject to codes of conduct, he would be forced to recuse.

I can’t believe it has come to this.


Alito asked Trump to hire him? Of did Trump just checking for reference?

What I can’t believe is that you see it as an issue. Looks like normal business to me.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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It was a former clerk. So what leverage could be held over Alito? It sounded like Trump called to ask about the former clerk, not the other way around.


Exactly.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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The fact they did have other business to discuss is exactly why the Justice shouldn't have been talking to Trump.

Even the dullest Americans (you know, those who voted for Trump) know that Trump has appeals and petitions pending or soon upcoming before the Supreme Court.


If professionals can’t conduct routine business and still have the integrity to do their job…we got bigger issues.

I see NOTHING wrong with Trump checking on a reference.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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The fact they did have other business to discuss is exactly why the Justice shouldn't have been talking to Trump.

Even the dullest Americans (you know, those who voted for Trump) know that Trump has appeals and petitions pending or soon upcoming before the Supreme Court.
49.993% of americans are "the dullest", headless?

only in some elitist's mind could this be a fact - say, rollypoly, where are the other 8million votes?

you are beyond hope, but still kind of a fun target of humor and ridicule -- it's like you believe in the tripe spewing from your lips....


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Hmmm, rolland believes Biden never talked business with his son, but trump did talk potential cases with Alito.
The inner workings of the headless.
 
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Hmmm, rolland believes Biden never talked business with his son, but trump did talk potential cases with Alito.
The inner workings of the headless.


Thanks for telling me what I believe. Saves me the trouble of thinking for myself.

In fact I don't think much of Biden or his son. But neither one is a judicial officer.
 
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Just for grins, I looked up the Alaska Code of Judicial Conduct. Alaska law doesn't bind the Supreme Court anymore than any other state's, but is useful as an example for judges who aren't able to make their own arbitrary rules.

Canon 2 provides:

"Canon 2.
A Judge Shall Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in All the Judge’s Activities.
A.  In all activities, a judge shall exhibit respect for the
rule of law, comply with the law,* avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety, and act in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and the impartiality of the judiciary."

Alito's conversation with Trump, who is highly likely to be a party before the Court, gives the appearance of impropriety and does not promote public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.
 
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There was no appearance of impropriety to me and I suspect the majority of the population.

Normal business.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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We were told it was a big nothing when Bill Clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch when Hillary was being investigated.
That is OK, but asking about a clerk is not?


Yeah.....all they talked about was grandkids. But then abain, they have liberal privilege.....


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Hmmm, rolland believes Biden never talked business with his son, but trump did talk potential cases with Alito.
The inner workings of the headless.



OUCH!!!!!



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If professionals can’t conduct routine business and still have the integrity to do their job…we got bigger issues.

I see NOTHING wrong with Trump ...


Speaking of bigger issues...


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Now, Trump can say bc Justice Alito was forced to recuse Justice Alito not there to guide the court to the right decision.. Of course, that would not be true.

The point is Justice Alito had a moral, sadly not a professional, obligation not to be involved in this case.

That we had an educated man try to argue Justice Alito need not recuse is mind blowing to me.

Dies anyone think Justice Alito would heve recused wo the public pressure of this call being made known?

MSM showing why they are important and better than Twitter.
 
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Presidents Roosevelt and Trumans famous poker games included Supreme Ct justices.
Do we assume the games were thrown so the "justices owed them one" or were they just playing cards?
I guess we will never know.
 
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We were told it was a big nothing when Bill Clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch when Hillary was being investigated.
That is OK, but asking about a clerk is not?


Yeah.....all they talked about was grandkids. But then abain, they have liberal privilege.....


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As in this instance, you have zero knowledge other than what you WANT to believe. So, STFU
 
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As in this instance, you have zero knowledge other than what you WANT to believe. So, STFU


Words to live by, close enough, when will you start?


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Presidents Roosevelt and Trumans famous poker games included Supreme Ct justices.
Do we assume the games were thrown so the "justices owed them one" or were they just playing cards?
I guess we will never know.


Another example of liberal privilege.... They abound!
 
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Neither were filing to the S. Ct., to keep from being sentenced on felonies w a Justice asking for a job reference.

But Jtex is not intelligent enough to see the difference.

In addition, Justices should not play poker w Presidents.
 
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JTex is intelligent enough to have accomplished way more in life than you. Anyone who is lucky enough to count JTex as a personal friend…is truly blessed.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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There was no appearance of impropriety to me and I suspect the majority of the population.

Normal business.


Right. Just the POTUS-elect with a case pending in front of a court who calls up his buddy the judge on that court to chat him up about a hire.

Normal business for trump. A huge appearance of impropriety for a judge.


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There was no appearance of impropriety to me and I suspect the majority of the population.

Normal business.


Right. Just the POTUS-elect with a case pending in front of a court who calls up his buddy the judge on that court to chat him up about a hire.

Normal business for trump. A huge appearance of impropriety for a judge.


hmm,let's see

1 potus elect AND potus emeritas (just borrowing one of nancy's "honors")
9 justices, nearly half appointed by same


say, mike, i have some local judges private cell numbers on my phone, I expect you do, as well .. though I expect your's would be of higher level than mine,...


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