https://www.usatoday.com/story...8007/?csp=chromepush

WASHINGTON − U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan halted all deadlines Friday for filings in the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump while federal prosecutors prepared to withdraw the charges.

Chutkan's decision came after a Justice Department source said this week that special counsel Jack Smith planned to wind down both federal prosecutions of Trump because of department policy against trying a sitting president.

"The Government respectfully requests that the Court vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrialschedule to afford the Government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determinethe appropriate course going forward consistent with Department of Justice policy," Smith said in a filing Friday.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...8007/?csp=chromepush

WASHINGTON − U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan halted all deadlines Friday for filings in the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump while federal prosecutors prepared to withdraw the charges.

Chutkan's decision came after a Justice Department source said this week that special counsel Jack Smith planned to wind down both federal prosecutions of Trump because of department policy against trying a sitting president.

"The Government respectfully requests that the Court vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrialschedule to afford the Government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determinethe appropriate course going forward consistent with Department of Justice policy," Smith said in a filing Friday.

Death for LIBERAL WOKE DEMOCRATS LAWFARE!
All it was about was the scared Dems keeping Trump from winning.
LAWFARE is UnAmerican
You think the Woke Dems learned their lesson? Now going forward Trump has control of the justice department.
America is tired of it. Probably caused the Dems the elections
I hope THE GOP decides to target a few of the choice dem scum bags for a taste of their own medicine. The GOP has 4 years to make the charges stick. Lock them up!
4WD

How is this any different than the democrat version?

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Originally posted by 4WD:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...8007/?csp=chromepush

WASHINGTON − U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan halted all deadlines Friday for filings in the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump while federal prosecutors prepared to withdraw the charges.

Chutkan's decision came after a Justice Department source said this week that special counsel Jack Smith planned to wind down both federal prosecutions of Trump because of department policy against trying a sitting president.

"The Government respectfully requests that the Court vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrialschedule to afford the Government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determinethe appropriate course going forward consistent with Department of Justice policy," Smith said in a filing Friday.

Death for LIBERAL WOKE DEMOCRATS LAWFARE!
All it was about was the scared Dems keeping Trump from winning.
LAWFARE is UnAmerican
You think the Woke Dems learned their lesson? Now going forward Trump has control of the justice department.
America is tired of it. Probably caused the Dems the elections
I hope THE GOP decides to target a few of the choice dem scum bags for a taste of their own medicine. The GOP has 4 years to make the charges stick. Lock them up!
4WD

The difference would be the Republicans will make legitimate charges against a certain number of the scumbags and actually get them prosecuted. Enough of them to make an example of. Trump was to nice to Hillary and look where that got him. Hillary is evil. The Soros Democrats are relentless,just like several on here. No matter what ,they have to have the last word, and the Soros Dems stick together no matter how wrong they are.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/w...th-trump-leading-u-s

International leaders prepare for a world with Trump leading U.S.
World Nov 8, 2024 10:25 AM EST

https://www.theatlantic.com/po...m-presidency/680546/

Trump Won. Now What?
The United States is about to become a different kind of country.

The Atlantic By David Frum

Donald Trump has won, and will become president for the second time. Those who voted for him will now celebrate their victory. The rest of us need to prepare to live in a different America: a country where millions of our fellow citizens voted for a president who knowingly promotes hatred and division; who lies—blatantly, shamelessly—every time he appears in public; who plotted to overturn an election in 2020 and, had he not won, was planning to try again in 2024.

Above all, we must learn to live in an America where an overwhelming number of our fellow citizens have chosen a president who holds the most fundamental values and traditions of our democracy, our Constitution, even our military in contempt. Over the past decade, opinion polls have showed Americans’ faith in their institutions waning. But no opinion poll could make this shift in values any clearer than this vote. As a result of this election, the United States will become a different kind of country.

When he was last in the White House, the president-elect ignored ethics and security guidelines, fired inspectors general and other watchdogs, leaked classified information, and used the Department of Homeland Security in the summer of 2020 as if it were the interior ministry of an authoritarian state, deploying U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Coast Guard “troops” in American cities. Trump actively encouraged the January 6, 2021, insurrection at our Capitol. When he left the White House, he stole classified documents and hid them from the FBI.

Because a critical mass of Americans aren’t bothered by that list of transgressions, any one of which would have tanked the career of another politician, Trump and his vice president–elect, J. D. Vance, will now try to transform the federal government into a loyalty machine that serves the interests of himself and his cronies. This was the essence of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, and its architects, all Trump fans, will now endeavor to make it become reality. Trump will surely try again to dismantle America’s civil service, replacing qualified scientists and regulators with partisan operatives. His allies will help him build a Department of Justice that does not serve the Constitution, but instead focuses on harassing and punishing Trump’s enemies. Trump has spoken, in the past, of using the Federal Communications Commission and the Internal Revenue Service to punish media organizations and anyone else who crosses him, and now he will have the chance to try again.

Perhaps the greater and more insidious danger is not political repression or harassment, but corruption. Autocratic populists around the world—in Hungary, Turkey, Venezuela—have assaulted institutions designed to provide accountability and transparency in order to shift money and influence to their friends and families, and this may happen in America too. This is not just a theoretical threat. As loyalists take over regulatory agencies, filling not only political but also former civil-service jobs, American skies will become more polluted, American food more dangerous. As a result of this massive shift in the country’s bureaucratic culture, Trump-connected companies will prosper, even as America becomes less safe for consumers, for workers, for children, for all of us.

American foreign policy will also reflect this shift toward kleptocracy. In his first term, Trump abused the powers of his office, corrupting American foreign policy for his personal gain. He pressured the Ukrainian president to launch a fake investigation of his political opponent; altered policy toward Turkey, Qatar, and other nations in ways that suited his business interests; even used the Secret Service to funnel government money to his private properties. In a second term, he and the people around him will have every incentive to go much further. Expect them to use American foreign policy and military power to advance their personal and political goals.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3dfab8fa7498e2&ei=69

Trump can prosecute anyone he wants

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/1...g7adz&smid=url-share

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call
Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader.

It's beginning to look like Trump will never face justice for his crimes.

Two standards of justice in America: one for us, the other for billionaires.

Your attitude will turn the average man in the electorate against us.

I don’t disagree that the Dems went beyond the pale in their lawfare, but if it is wrong when they do it, it’s doubly wrong when we do it.

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Your attitude will turn the average man in the electorate against us.

I don’t disagree that the Dems went beyond the pale in their lawfare, but if it is wrong when they do it, it’s doubly wrong when we do it.

Have to friendly disagree. Unfortunately the Dems do not play fair. They have their own set of rules. The only thing they understand is a position of strength and be deal with a heavy hand. We have to make an example of a few of the worse offenders. Look how the Dems started out saying they wanted to unify our country, then immediately weaponized the juStice department. Now have had their asses handed to them , lost all of their power, and thEir first speeches after their major loss is one of unity. The Dems think they are elite and the Americans are dumb, we have educated the Dems , now we need to complete their education.

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we have educated the Dems , now we need to complete their education.

Where were you when Pol Pot really needed you?

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It's beginning to look like Trump will never face justice for his crimes.

Two standards of justice in America: one for us, the other for billionaires.

Getting closer to reality
Dem had thousands of secert emails on her illegal private server and destroyed evidence. No charges

Dem stole(yes stole) secret documents and kept them in his garage No charges

Gop stole documents, suddenly it's a national emergency, nay, treason

See a pattern?

Listen to you Trump apologists.

Trump didn't just steal the documents, he hid them, then lied when he said he returned them, and hid them again after subpoenaed, and raised a fuss when the FBI raided and took them, then played the what-about-them game. Those are facts.

Do you get it that he could steal classified docs now with immunity and impunity, sell them, use them for coercion, quid pro quo, whatever he wants? There is nothing to hold him back or accountable. It all depends on his whims of conscious and we all know he is amoral.

He could sell pardons too.

And really, the real problem is that some of you actually believe lies. And when given facts, you still don't get it.

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It's beginning to look like Trump will never face justice for his crimes.

It's way beyond that. Trump WILL never face justice for crimes, past or future. He knows it. GOPers know it. We know it, the world knows it, the universe knows it, God and the devil knows it too. I can imagine what that means to Trump. Can you?

He's got the executive branch, the legislative and the judiciary under his control. He's got immunity. It looks like the house is gonna be GOPer majority. So, yes indeed, "educated" we are going to finish learning our lessons.

Kabob
You should bottle those tears, rare vintage. Switch the parties and yell that "there ain't no justice" .. only the willfully ignorant can't see there is a two tier justice system.

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only the willfully ignorant can't see there is a two tier justice system.

I see it very clearly. Trump got away with it playing lawfare.

I say it not just willfully ignorant to be a Trump apologist. It's worse than that, by far.

There is a multitude of evidence that he did the crimes, yet he will do no time. In fact, he got promoted and empowered to do more crimes, a lot more. and neither the rule of law, Congress, judiciary, God or the devil will hold him back or accountable.

Karma might, but don't count on it.

Corrupt politics!

Just because he is elected president, does not mean he is not guilty!

It's an odd paradox. It looks to me like he was elected BECAUSE he's guilty.

First, we ought to honor the office, and give deference. (respectful submission or yielding to the judgment, opinion, will, etc., of another.)

But that carries assumptions and trust, such as the person in the office is honorable, has a conscience, shuns corruption, shuns malfeasance, shuns using the power for revenge or self-serving, and serves the people.

Those assumptions and trust fail with Trump, bigly.

It's even worse when those transgressions are well known, plainly exemplified, yet he's still given the power by a majority of the We the People. Some even seem to think that his active failure to shun those things mentioned, and instead actively embrace them, is a good thing, an asset in the office of POTUS.

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It's an odd paradox. It looks to me like he was elected BECAUSE he's guilty.
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and, well, you won't listen, but here it goes.. THIS is the problem -

YOU... guilty
73 million of Them ... lawfare or immaterial as they can see it wasn't down with an equal hand -

me? it's irrational to apply to one side and not the other EQUALLY - all three are guilty of the same crimes -- including, as I assume you'll wenge about it, SH.. killary with slut shaming when her husband is a cad, binden has tara, and trump with e. jean ... all are scoundrels

So, if i try to see from you POV(assuming good intent) , all three of them are guilty, and should face EXACTLY the same charges, though the counts be different

When I see it from my POV, it's bloody obvious that the law isn't being applied equally - this is, IN NO WAY being a trump apologist, it's pointing out that it isn't being done THE SAME regardless of party or rank.

so, no paradox, or no need for a paradoctor, it's dang obvious it isn't being applied with a blind hand - those are cold hard facts -

But the three examples are not equivalent. Surely you see that.

Suppose you're a traffic cop and pull over two drivers for speeding. The first driver obeys the flashing red lights and promptly pulls over. Because of his good attitude, you let him off with a warning.

Later you turn your roof lights on for another speeder. Instead of pulling over, this guy tries to run away, speeding faster and weaving through traffic. You and your colleagues finally succeed in stopping him.

Do you let him off with a warning? Should people criticize you for treating two drivers differently if you write him tickets and prosecute him?

Hummm

Word Salid doesn't excuse Trump.

You do, and the majority of Americans.

His ONLY escape was to be elected.

Regardless of any what-about-them and look-over-there, he did what he was indicted for.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
But the three examples are not equivalent. Surely you see that.

Suppose you're a traffic cop and pull over two drivers for speeding. The first driver obeys the flashing red lights and promptly pulls over. Because of his good attitude, you let him off with a warning.

Later you turn your roof lights on for another speeder. Instead of pulling over, this guy tries to run away, speeding faster and weaving through traffic. You and your colleagues finally succeed in stopping him.

Do you let him off with a warning? Should people criticize you for treating two drivers differently if you write him tickets and prosecute him?

all of them speeding, at "discretion" the enforcement is different --

sure YOU can see that all three committed a crime...

but the reality is
1 was doing 200 MPH in a school zone, dumped their car into a crusher, got into another car, then you found HER. of, and the FBI warned you she was coming

the next guy is a duffer, who was left off the crime because he's an old codger, and you feel sorry for his lake of mental focus (oh, so much juice to squeeze from that one)

the last guy pulled over, said it was HIS private road, and after some talking, because you are mad at him for stealing your GF in HS, you decide to ticket him ...

1 has destruction of evidence
2 is mentally deficient
and number 3, you just hate that guy

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Hummm

Word Salid doesn't excuse Trump.

You do, and the majority of Americans.

His ONLY escape was to be elected.

Regardless of any what-about-them and look-over-there, he did what he was indicted for.

yep, i was right, you won't listen .. cognitive bias much? just blow off a well thought out post, as it causes you cognitive dissonance, as "word salad" ..

sigh .. i pity you.. can i send you some copium, you are going to need it for the next 4 years

You argue that Trump is excused because justice is two tiered.

Trump's guilt is far closer to factual than the two tiered you're talking about.

It's two different things, yet you conflate them as though one washes the other. Hillary got away, so why shouldn't Trump?

Now, that's cognitive dissonance. You don't "feel" it, but it is contradictory.

It's an invalid argument anyway.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
You argue that Trump is excused because justice is two tiered.
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It's an invalid argument.

no, i didn't - i told you that 73 million people MIGHT have decided it was - i can't speak for a SOUL except myself - i didn't vote for him, for several reasons, and voted for Oliver -

but YOU refuse take the possibilities into your considerations --

but, like my sig says 'opinions vary' ...

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but YOU refuse take the possibilities into your considerations --

A just avoid invalid arguments, and call them what they are.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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but YOU refuse take the possibilities into your considerations --

A just avoid invalid arguments, and call them what they are.

okay honey... are you okay?

Okay is subjective, and as such none of your business, honey.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Okay is subjective, and as such none of your business, honey.

you could have just said "no", but we understand

If Biden had an ounce of class, which he doesn't, he would have pardoned Trump when all these charges were filed and denounced the tactic. He didn't. He should do it now. He won't. Classless.

If Trumpsters had an ounce of class and conscience, they would apologize for their behavior, and believing lies, altogether and ask our forgiveness.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If Biden had an ounce of class, which he doesn't, he would have pardoned Trump when all these charges were filed and denounced the tactic. He didn't. He should do it now. He won't. Classless.

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but we understand

So, ya got a mouse in your pocket?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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but we understand

So, ya got a mouse in your pocket?

nah, me and my dog .. he says "hey"

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
If Trumpsters had an ounce of class and conscience, they would apologize for their behavior, and believing lies, altogether and ask our forgiveness.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If Biden had an ounce of class, which he doesn't, he would have pardoned Trump when all these charges were filed and denounced the tactic. He didn't. He should do it now. He won't. Classless.

and here i thought the left were the champions of democracy, the will of the people .. i guess i was wrong about the "tolerant" left, i had hoped they had commitment to their stated morals. oh well, i am resilient, as I am a cowboys AND Aggie fan

I understand.

My dogs are all democrats except one. She is a growly bitch, selfish, jealous, spoiled, talks back to me. She's a libertarian.

I wouldn't own a republican dog.

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and here i thought the left were the champions of democracy

We are. But you owe us an apology for having to suffer with Trump.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I understand.

My dogs are all democrats except one. She is a growly b!tch, selfish, jealous, spoiled, talks back to me. She's a libertarian.

I wouldn't own a republican dog.

i think you have the cases reversed, but hey, i aint there to do fair diagnostic ...

tell me again which is is growing, being selfish, acts spoiled, and "talks back", and which side accepts the results, again? I don't think it's all that clear

i have searched youtube for a "maga meltdown 2024" video, i guess their search engine is broken

can we bring back naki? at least he's funny to watch squirm

I think I got it correct. All my "nice" dogs, the ones who appreciate the "System" are democrats. The radical is the growly bitch. Unlike the world of humans, the democrats keep her in line.

okay, this has become even more dumb .. i am out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...dd6aaa586a3e8b&ei=12

I guess Trump won because Democrats forgot to cheat. Oops!
Opinion by Rex Huppke, USA TODAY • 5h • 3 min read

Bye bye.