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I think many factors are at play here, many of which have been touched upon in this thread, the high cost of housing, substance abuse, the lack of motivation etc. I also think other factors are at play such as the effect globalization has had on our labor markets and advancing technology such as AI and robotics. I was just talking to a computer engineer today who was telling me how AI is changing his field. We already have a situation where many low skilled workers cannot afford to house themselves, it makes you wonder if it will soon spread. Do I have the answer? I believe it lays fairly close to Dr. Butlers post above. Help those who are trying to help themselves get into a different situation while not enabling the takers to suck up resources unconditionally. Funding inpatient mental health facilities at the level that comes close to meeting demand would be a good start as well. A sad local story: https://www.msn.com/en-us/heal...f169786d9eaa99&ei=13 and another: https://www.msn.com/en-us/mone...612f8f49635123&ei=23 | |||
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Lane said (paraphrased: “if they aren’t willing to endure some risk, let them eat cake…” SKB said (paraphrased): “if they aren’t trying, let them eat cake.” I liked Scott Kings answer best(paraphrased): “stop spending money trying to make old comrades treat each other kindly and spend the money here on things like helping ALL of the poor and homeless in this country.” Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I don’t mind the idea of helping Americans first, but dedicating spending to all the impoverished in perpetuity will not help the people involved. A successful program would be less utilized as it would decrease in its need over time. Again, giving a higher lifestyle than working will result in less working. | |||
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Sure, legislating morality works so well, why don't we legislate a work ethic? A lot of these people don't know how to work. How are they going to hold a job? We'd have to hire a bunch of new supervisors to try to make sure they keep working. How to work, to do a job that may be unpleasant, is itself a skill. If someone is taught or shown by example, they likely grow up with a work ethic. But what if your parents and grandparents didn't provide that instruction? We'll need a pile of supervisors. | |||
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I agree with all your points. Knowing the investment of time, money and lives that we spend in trying and failing to force other countries to “be nice”, one wonders if it wouldn’t be more beneficial to spend some of that money on programs that fit the outline you presented. I wonder if that is why all those Scandinavian countries are able to have capitalism, and yet still afford to fund social welfare programs that seem to actually work? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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All true but until we have jobs that offer the low skilled high enough pay to afford housing I do not see the homeless issue going away. Ultimately the equation between cost of living and income earned has changed and not for the better. Certainly we do not want to provide a level of comfort so great that the homeless have no desire to help themselves, at the same time a hand up could be the difference, especially for the working class homeless that are currently trying but not making it. | |||
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I feel like the question is “how do we bridge the gap when we have sent many lower skilled jobs overseas while also regulating rental housing in a manner that has driven prices out of reach?” I have no answer, at least not one that would fly… Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Theses days; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...in_the_United_States Five million Americans are housed and/ or supervised by our governments. So we are paying "bigly" already to babysit a segment of our population. I wouldn't know what percentage of homeless Americans are also under supervision by a corrections department, I suppose it varies, but id guess it's a majority. If we're already supervising these folks, It seems to me a redirection in procedure and policy could have more positive results. | |||
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Actually, there are a few places in California that provide low-cost living. A lot depends on your definition of "cost"... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Excellent post!!!!! . | |||
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I think the answer to Jason's question of why the system has not been rebuilt is very obvious, the lack of will to fund the solutions. The same folks who are worried about a "balanced budget" while giving themselves a raise and reducing their own tax rates. The next time you step over a turd on the sidewalk just remember all the taxes you have saved and say a prayer for Saint Reagan. https://www.yahoo.com/news/hou...ves-8-103508375.html | |||
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Not only a lack of will to fund the solutions (mostly on the part of the right), but a refusal to see the solutions (on the part of the left). So it is that the right wants to ignore the issue, while the left wants to furnish drugs and free stuff to exacerbate the problem. Lieu of doing anything about it, both sides simply name call and continue down their chosen path. Regards, Bill. | |||
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I can’t fault a single word. I would ask, regarding this talk of “the emptied coffers”. How much do we spend “improving” things outside of our our country? What is our yearly allowance for bombing other countries? And then rebuilding them? And how much do we hold in reserve for the next “strategically necessary” proxy war? Foreign aid? Do we want to see foreign aid when Ethiopia is experiencing famine. I say yes Do we want to see foreign aid to first world countries or third world dictators. That’d be a no for me. The politicians salaries pale in comparison to what we spend on war machines, etc. but I do agree that those self approved raises do show their character. The bottom line is that it is all about priorities. I’ve seen both parties much more excited for the newest “war” than I have see either for their newest bill to fund mental health services. But maybe that’s on us, the voters? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Was always curious where the homeless got the money for a cell phone?? Most seem to have them. Must have a bank account where they pay the bill.. | |||
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Obama phones: https://federalnewsnetwork.com...amaphone/?readmore=1 If you have a cell phone, you are pay for those phones(check your bill) It’s an extension, or expansion, of one of a Regan era FCC programs. And you we’re paying for that on your landline bill too. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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