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Being homeless is a chosen lifestyle and we pay them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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In fairness, many here in Maine found themselves homeless in 1991 when then governor John McKernan, husband of former Senator, Olympia Snowe, helped to drastically slash programming at the state level for mental health services. People were literally put on buses and sent to Portland. 32 years later many of those original people are still there, homeless and just as mentally ill as before. I suspect some my choose to live that way but many more are thrust into those circumstances. There are no easy answers, but I do believe in the notion of a hand up rather than a hand out when possible. I favor work requirements for welfare, for example. There is no denying the man who earns his beans appreciates them a great deal more than the man who has them handed to him. | |||
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And, you just know the $620 a month is why that poor fool chose to be homeless. I'm sure people are lined up for that lifestyle so they can get that $155 a week. Or, they're mentally ill and have drug and/or alcohol abuse problems. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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That isn't enough money to live in San Francisco, even under a bridge. You'd have to be mentally deficient to make that choice. Saint Ronald Reagan, as governor, emptied the asylums but failed to get the municipalities to ante up for treatmant. Same as with Fairfield Hills Hospital in Connecticut, where Adam Lanza should have lived instead of downtown Newtown... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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There are many people who didn't plan well and are poor. For example, many decided to live in another country, such as Ecuador because they could make it on SS. For a while living in a motor home or camper or even a boat house or liveaboard was popular. I don't know about now. There are several movies or documentaries made about it. One is Nomadland: Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHE4MK6lEVM https://www.slashfilm.com/6251...eyes%20may%20believe. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Tumbleweed deleted this post, but I wanted to keep it here for prosperity. I serves as a perfect illustration of a pattern I see repeated over and over here on AR: Conservative points out that a liberal program isn’t working, and is in fact exacerbating the problem it was intended to mitigate. Supports assertion with video evidence from a person who, according to his own words, was drawn to an area due to the failing liberal program. Does the opposition engage in a meaningful discussion? No, they fall back on name calling. Does calling someone a Nazi make San Francisco’s program seem like less of a failure? That makes about as much sense as Mike Mitchell pointing out that there were “other factors” that caused this homeless man to become homeless. Is anyone arguing that this program is enticing working class people to leave the rat race to join the “unhoused” lifestyle? No, so why the strawman?? We have a huge homelessness problem. Do any of you disagree? No one, liberal or conservative, has instituted a solution that has solved the homelessness problem. We can blame the dismantling of the mental health system 50 years ago by the “uncaring”, but that raises the question: why haven’t “those who care” been able to rebuild the mental health system to any extent anywhere? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Their choice, their reasoning doesn't matter. There are community standards, cultural norms, societal parameters we all live within. No public nudity, no public drunkenness. We're not allowed to shoot our guns nor park our cars anywhere we want nor are we allowed to play house or set up shop anywhere we want. The reasons for or to be homeless vary I know, to me it's obviously an illness of one form or another. Regardless, these are our fellow Americans, our neighbors. On an individual, religious, social, municipal, state and federal level, homelessness should be eliminated from our country. America has spent billions and trillions to be defeated in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Somalia, Ethiopia, etc,...... Outrageous. Defeated! After "Blackhawk Down!" and the Three decades between then and now, Somalia remains the same. Afghanistan is exactly where it was two and three and four decades ago regardless our efforts and funding. I for one would strongly prefer that same effort and funding to be spent domestically, regardless the outcome. Take all that money, employ all those people, be they Americans or foreign contractors in the effort to save Americans. At a minimum I think we see a lot less casualties. | |||
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I see it, what appears to be a legitimate sample of one occurrence. A social welfare guy I talked to awhile back says it's about one-third medical debt, one-third bad luck (inconveniently timed layoffs, etc), one-third alcohol/drug dependencies. Rough numbers, but from someone who is involved. I suspect that there just aren't enough appropriately skilled jobs to pay what it costs to eat under a roof. Certainly aren't enough for taxpayers to feel comfortable about supporting those who can't support themselves. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Don't know about popular, but it's endemic here to live in an RV. Many of them do not run, and are towed if the owner can afford it. Tents are another option, sanitation isn't easy as public restrooms are no longer as popular as they once were. There was a story in this morning's paper about a woman who lives in Victorville for low cost and works in Hollywood cleaning houses. She drives 90 minutes one way once a week and sleeps in her car until going home for the weekend. I'll opine that she's tougher than most. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Oh, forgive me. I didn't realize that the purpose of the OP was to stimulate an intellectual discussion about how we solve homelessness. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts. I thought that an OP entitled "Being homeless is a chosen lifestyle and we pay them" meant that being homeless was a chosen lifestyle and we pay them to be homeless. Silly me. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Many years ago I spent a few days in San Franscisco on a business trip to attend a professional seminar. I stayed in a hotel in the section where they had the electric trollies and the wharf with the seafood restaurant. That was my first experience with homeless people and the gay pride parades. The homeless were quiet during the day, sleeping in the back allies etc., but about 11:00 pm the streets came alive, like some dystopian movie. The hotel where I stayed locked all the entrance (and exit) doors except one, and it was attended by an armed guard after 10"00 pm. They warned me to not go out after dark. I heeded the warning. I learned more about what was happening on the streets than I did from the conference, in the daytime and listening to the noise outside all night. It was very strange. I have no reference point to understand it at all. But I do have experience with the feeling of homelessness. I have had brief periods in my lifetime, not by choice, where that was the case, but fixed it asap. Besides, I always had the Georgia farm to retreat to if the experiment of going out in the world went sour enough. Also, when traveling long distance, to and from Alaska, on the road, I get that feeling. My RV is my home away from home, my cocoon in space and time in the world. That's why a breakdown is troubling. It gives me a window into the nomad lifestyle. I like traveling, but I've not done it on an indefinite basis, nor with no destination in mind, and won't do that assuming I can avoid it. When I was younger I always had a fallback plan, so going out in the world, taking risks, didn't spook me. I still have a fallback plan but now that I'm older sometimes when on the road I'm easily spooked. I avoid places that are spooky, such as intercity. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I was homeless for a month or so in Tokyo in the mid-seventies. Sleeping on benches in parks and train platforms. Spent almost a week crashing at the international airport, but it cost so much to eat there I had to give it up. At least Japan is a clean place to be homeless. I recommend everyone try the lifestyle for a while, just to lend a new perspective on life. | |||
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The guy has second thoughts about what he posted and deletes it, and you feel compelled to rub his nose in it? You sure do a lot of whining about the supposed mistreatment of conservatives. | |||
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No one is being “mistreated” by being called a Nazi. I’ll leave the “words are violence” BS to the wokesters. I was pointing out the stupidity of utilizing name calling to attack someone when you lack the ability to debate the topic itself. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Have you noticed that any topic can stimulate an intellectual discussion? You’ve probably also noticed that those discussions fall into name calling as soon as one side realizes that they can’t support their position? The quality of the discussion is controlled by those who participate. I noticed that Scott King added value to the discussion. But of course he actually wanted to speak his mind, and wasn’t simply gunning to take Lane down a notch… You seem triggered by Lane’s statement: “being homeless is a chosen lifestyle and we pay them”. Which part do you believe is incorrect, the fact that being homeless is often times a choice or the fact that we pay them in some cities? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Saw an interview with one a while back. Apparently they get free phones, free data cards and free injections!  | |||
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And as a path to improvement they should get a whole lot more free. I see we're going to send/ give cluster bombs to Ukraine. Neato. How much does the U.A.E. pay to host the USAF 380th airwing? Looks like we've got about 5k troops bearing arms for your defense Saeed. Id like to see those 5k employees engaged full time in American defense, Americans improvement. Send those fine young men and women to SanFrancisco to protect Americans and their soil. Make a few sandwiches to pass out. Give a few physicals, set up some cots, improve some Americans lives. Should go without saying I and we all wouldn't wish you and the U.A.E any less safe, secure and prosperous. | |||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDkALRz5Rk An interesting watch, as much about homelessness as poverty. Few if any have chosen those circumstances. 24:15 if you think there is no problem with access to healthcare. | |||
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That is an interesting watch. The “working class homeless” is something that I don’t believed was common until the last couple of decades. But that is only one side of the coin: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...ZiBob21lbGVzcw%3D%3D I feel for all of those people. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I watched Nute’s video and was struck by a couple of things. I am sure I will be called names for bringing them out. 1) As a vet, a few times I have been called to animal abuse cases by law enforcement. What does an abandoned horse look like that has limited resources (food)? The answer is they are emaciated. In all of that film…I saw one thin person and he looked like he was in an Atlas workout program…fit sculpted body. Contrast these images to those of the Great Depression. People really lacked food then. 2) California is an expensive place to live. Some of these folks could move to areas where income and cost of living more closely match. They readily exist. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This whole issue is similar to bringing democracy to countries. It just doesn’t take without the will. There is imho a lack of will in a large percentage here. As to the charity field hospitals…those are great and the example of the best way to deal with this situation. I am a proponent of Bill Walton’s concept of camps and forcible removal of makeshift camps from public property into these camps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I kind of know what you are saying. I have been poor and have gone without food. At one time I had no food and was working at a labor intensive job. I carried about 140 pounds on my 6'2" frame. I had no money and wouldn't get paid for another two weeks. I went so far as to ask for credit at the grocery store, and was refused (when I had money, I bought groceries in the next town after that). With my first check, I gorged on cheeseburgers! The big difference, at that time, was that I could (once I got paid) easily afford to rent a house (not a great house, mind you) or a hotel room. I made fifteen dollars a day and two days pay, after taxes, would rent a shack or an apartment for a month. One day would rent a motel room for a week. That is not the case today. The other thing I noticed, in the video, was the woman driving a new Toyota Sienna. Regards, Bill. | |||
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When I started college...I rented a farm house with my labor. It was missing one outside wall. I nailed up a tarp until I had a chance to rebuild it for the farm owner. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Every state has at least some homeless. I would like to sort out the ones who have just fallen on hard times to help first. Many are still trying to work even while homeless. Some will refuse treatment, and refuse help because they will not follow the rules that goes with the help. I have no interest in supporting a drug addicts place to stay if they are not willing to take steps to help themselves. I dont see a one size fits all solution. | |||
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Agreed, it isn't a single solution which is in part why I suggested it be a multi front or agency attack. Individually Americans can assist in ways organizations cannot. Religious organizations can work in ways other organizations cannot. You and id think a municipality has a better handle on what'd work in their town than the state and feds would, The state should know better about their state than the feds. I think the feds can set a broad standard or bar and actually "fund the mandate" in a bizzare deviation from history. Unfortunately the drug addict that refuses to follow the rules in your example is a pubic nuisance and threat whether you want to pay for them or not. Imprisonment hasn't historically worked we agree and is very expensive, it seems obvious that expending the same time and money in a different pursuit with the same goal in mind is prudent. | |||
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In Canada, at least 90% of homeless are drug or alcohol addicted, and are supported in their addiction, by the federal and, in BC, the provincial government. Bill | |||
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I don’t disagree with you, but most of those living in their cars were working or wanted to, but sometimes life deals some people a shit hand, and you just have to play the cards you are dealt. If you are homeless and without access to a kitchen and so live on take out pizza and burgers you might well end up carrying some weight. Sometimes I get asked to look at social housing here - housing provided by the state or a charity for the homeless. Sometimes you find it’s a total pigsty, no effort made to keep it clean and mess and filth everywhere. Sometimes though it’s the opposite, people who respect what the state is providing. One chap in particular sticks in my mind as I got talking to him. His little room as clean and tidy, his belongings, such as they were, were well looked after, no piles of dishes in the sink, bathroom clean. He was ex military, suffered from mental health issues when he left the forces and his marriage broke up, ended up living on the street. He was doing his best to turn his life around and was very grateful to be given somewhere to live whilst he got back on his feet. If he was the only one in that building of 6 units to grasp the opportunity and make something of it then it’s worth doing and helping these people. | |||
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They also showed the house that the woman lived in before her divorce put her on the streets. The house appeared to be a very expensive property, denoting that her and her ex were living well. Then they said that she “left everything to her husband” in the divorce. California is a community property state, so why did she “leave everything”? I don’t know anything about her situation, but it seems that she made choices along they way that led her to her current situation. I feel for anyone living in the margins, whether they are there due to drugs, mental illness, or hard luck. As a society we should be doing a hell of a lot more to assist them. But we have to get to the root of the problems. Providing handouts helps the people who are in that situation, but it does nothing to assist the homeless in improving their situation. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Lane, The poor in America are far more likely to suffer from obesity than the rich or the middle class. It is attributed to the fact that junk food is cheaper than healthier foods. I’m surprised that you didn’t know that. https://www.medicalnewstoday.c...-and-poverty#Summary (I was forced to find a source, as I realized that I wasn’t sure that I really knew what I thought I knew) Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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But lack of total calories, as seen in the Great Depression, always equates to emaciation. Fat will only be made with excess calories. These people are certainly not hungry…which is my point. The people of the 1930s actually knew what it meant they be hungry and poor. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, If the point that you are trying to make is that the current crop of homeless are not as destitute as the homeless were a century ago, I agree. For the working class homeless there seems to be a larger hurdle to find affordable housing. A lot of poor people used to live in rented shacks. My paternal grandmother raised my father and his 5 siblings in a shack for several years. Can you even rent a shack anymore? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I doubt it. Laws, mostly. Black mold, rats, other nasty things keep stuff like this from happening on a large scale any more. I think other problems have been laws that do not allow evictions of people who are destroying property and or not paying rent. So owning rentals, say as a business, is very difficult. Remember, during the 'rona years' people did not have to pay their rent in a lot of places. Govt told the landowners to suck it up. Unconscionable. Low cost housing... Where? Have you looked at the price of materials since Joe's Blow 0biden took over? Prices keep going UP. How would you mitigate that? Landowners would also need reasonable profit from their properties. Ha! Not gonna happen anymore. If govt is supposed to house people then 'we' are still the ones paying for it. Most people want something for their money. If you are a landowner you expect for your property taxes you'll get: police/fire protection, road maintenance and improvements and in some places trash and other services. Then there is the promise of high quality schools, etc. We don't get much of that anymore either as things are. I'm already seeing media reports of vacationers bitching there are no hotels/motels available for them as the govt is housing illegals in them. Our taxes are used for more 'border protection' in other countries and their wars and housing illegals. How are homeless going to fit in? They aren't. They don't. ~Ann   | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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No need for me to look it up, it's common knowledge that most working Americans live paycheck to paycheck. When a worker misses that first, second and third paycheck where they currently can't afford to live, how exactly do they move? A friend of mine in the San Francisco area recently told me one of our mutual friends was unhappy because her adult son had signed a second annual contract in Texas instead of returning home to the Bay Area. My friends advice to her was to move! Follow her son! He can't afford California and is making adult choices for his life. But we're not all there are we? For many of us, many of us here "home is where the heart is" so we stay nearby family, familiarity, mom and pop. Yeah, those emotional attachments can turn us upsidedown in a moment. I'm afraid, "just move!" ain't that easy. | |||
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That is exactly what I was getting at Ann. We have passed laws to protect renters while punishing landlords. Rental “housing” used to go from full sized family house, all the way day to “the shack out back” that might have no running water, sewer, etc. Laws have eliminated renting out such “hovels”. Those hovels were often rented out on a weekly of monthly basis. Sometimes by the night. Now that we have legislated that all rentals will be “livable”, and have things like plumbing and running water, no mold, etc. we have raised the bar and many working class poor just can’t reach it. Add to that all of the laws that protect the renter, and landlords are now covering their asses with credit/background checks plus requiring first/last and a security deposit. We have saved the living class poor from having to live in hovels that lack plumbing, electricity and such. Now they live in their cars… progress! Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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You have hit the nail on the head. It is said many times: “You can’t legislate morals.” (Talking about things like prohibition.) Well… You can’t legislate universal prosperity either! To try…eventually brings you around to communism (defined as - a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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My experience is that very few things in life are easy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That's the Christian spirit Lane! Let them eat cake.... | |||
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While I have no problems helping out folks short term, those that refuse to make an effort or persist in poor decision making should not be coddled either. The perpetual welfare underclass is not good for either the folks involved or the nation as a whole. If you say you must look for work… that what you get… looking. If you limit welfare, like they did, what have we seen? A dramatic increase in very questionable permanent disability claims. It would seem that it’s self evident that allowing folks to live off government long term creates more of it. We need to ensure that folks who work live better than those who refuse to, or else we will have an increasing permanent underclass that is unproductive. How we do it is going to be the trick. | |||
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Do you have the answer Steve? I believe the answer lies with in (the homeless person). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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