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So get this.

I shipped a M1 Garand and a Springfield 1903. The Post Office lost the package. I had purchased $2,300 in insurance. Now the Post Office informs me that these are prohibited items. Because the firearms are capable of being concealed on a person.

So if a Garand can be concealed then that basically means that virtually all rifles are prohibited items.

I have read the relevant ATF and Postal regulations and this ruling appears to be not only invalid but unbelievably stupid.


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Posts: 2545 | Location: The 'Ham | Registered: 25 May 2007Reply With Quote
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Either go to a higher authority or get a lawyer. Ridiculous argument on their part.

I have heard the PO is a real bitch for paying claims, but this takes the cake. Personally I'd spend more on an attorney and make them pay.

BTW, if you had sent the package registered mail, not only would it not have been "lost" but it would have been cheaper. Delivery is slower, but EVERYONE who handles a registered mail package has to sign for it. That's why they don't get "lost".


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Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001Reply With Quote
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I agree that is not correct.It would be worth the lawyers fee (somewhat) to get justice. [boy does'nt that sound terrible]. I have a horror story of my own,actually my sons that is quite similar in context but not in value.When my son was in the service he came home for Christmas before getting shipped to the sand box. I bought him a stereo,he had no room in the car to make it back to Ft. Lee so I mailed it insured for $500.00.It was trashed in the shipment + the P.O. would not pay. "What is the value?,Where is your receipt?",etc. ad nauseum.Long story short,it does't matter how much you insure it for,if you don't have a receipt of sale then "their people" will determine the packages value.Even though I had a receipt the P.O would not honor it.Your insured value in dollars will not be paid.My question to the post mistress was if you knew you would'nt pay $500.00 for this stereo why did you allow me to insure it? She said,"Well thats the way it is."


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Posts: 17357 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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Hi.

My name is M1 Garand.

You may remember me from movies such as 'Saving Private Ryan', 'The Big Red One', 'The Longest Day', and 'Band of Brothers'.

I am 44 inches long and weigh nearly ten pounds.

But according to the US Post Office, I am a concealable weapon.


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I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"

"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
 
Posts: 2545 | Location: The 'Ham | Registered: 25 May 2007Reply With Quote
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Push it up the chain starting with the REGIONAL Postmaster.
CC Federal elected officials if a followup is required. let those elected do the job they were elected to do an so they can help stir action after contact with regional PM is required.



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Posts: 4231 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002Reply With Quote
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You got a hold of the typical bureaucrat: They don't know shit but have learned that a aggressive tone of voice and a assertive manner will go a long ways. I ran into it locally when some dumbazz told me "I've been with the PO for 25 years and I know everything there is to know about shipping a rifle". Come to find out, she didn't.


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Posts: 4348 | Location: middle tenn | Registered: 09 December 2009Reply With Quote
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wasbe,you got that right. I went through that same B.S. several years ago.I bought a pair of cons.ser. # colts 1873 at an estate sale.They had the hard rubber grips but I wanted to send them to Hartford to have Ivory grips (would'nt you?)The UPS idiot said that I could'nt do it because that is how terrorists get their guns.Total B.S. but that is what the general public goes by.Happy ending though,I was informed to just pull the cylinders + mail only the frame + thus were not a gun.It worked.


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Posts: 17357 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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Lost, my ass.
The ATF would be my first call. I'm sure they would be quite interested in how the postal service "lost" a full-length semi-auto high-powered rifle just to name one. Both of those 'properly insured' rifles are somewhere and there is certainly a paper trail. I hope you have the receipt and tracking number handy when you call. A lawyer isn't going to do shit to get those rifles returned or most importantly, out of the hands of someone who might not have good intentions. Just my opinion, go straight to the top quick.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/r...arms-theft-or-loss-0


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That's B/S... my first couple of CMP Garands came to me via the USPS!!


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Posts: 1963 | Location: The Three Lower Counties (Delaware USA) | Registered: 13 September 2001Reply With Quote
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I suppose Shaq or Charles Barkley could kinda sorta conceal an M1.


Paul Smith
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Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
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I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"

"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
 
Posts: 2545 | Location: The 'Ham | Registered: 25 May 2007Reply With Quote
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Your Attorney General's office will look into the stolen rifles for free. All you do is make copies of your invoice and the USPS insured receipt and the cash receipt or charge receipt and send it to them.


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