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Someone contacted me and asked that I share some of my "unique caliber" once-fired brass with them. I would send one or two of each cartridge with spent primer removed.

This is one shooter sharing with another, not any sort of business transaction

Are there any "legal" issues with shipping/sharing these.

OK, what about the customs form.

With the recent screw-ups by homeland security they ar likely to be doing stupid things.



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Posts: 4227 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002Reply With Quote
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None whatsoever...it is brass


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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at this point you are shipping a birthday candle holder


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10057 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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hello mike,

please can you answer this for me why wont people in the usa send over stock and forends to the uk.

regards
chris
 
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Dunno.
Maybe they dont want to stand in line at the post office and fill out a customs form.

I've sent stocks out of country before.


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Posts: 291 | Location: Way out west | Registered: 23 January 2007Reply With Quote
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I'm fairly sure, but not positive, that it is PROBABLY not legal. Would I worry about it, or not send a couple of pieces of harmless brass based on that? Not for a second.


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Is it breaking US law to ship the brass?

If it winds up being against Norwegian law and not US, what's gonna happen to the sender?
Nada?

Is the brass actually for loading? If not drill a hole in the side.


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Posts: 291 | Location: Way out west | Registered: 23 January 2007Reply With Quote
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I'm not sure about private mailings for cases but certainly the dealers such as Cabela's etc are not allowed to send brass or even radios or sat phones to most, if not all overseas buyers.

FWIW, I've been refused both cases and two way radios on several occasions when I've tried to order from the USA and twice had individuals try to send me sat phones by courier from the US and on both occasions, US customs stopped delivery and sent them back to the sender.

I'm not 100% sure but believe they use homeland security as the reason.






 
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Shakari

With this last little show of inability to stop real problems I am concerned that they will use something like this to show what a great job they are doing.

I don't feel like being their example of what great work they are doing with screening as a red herring after the bumbling job with the Nigerian.



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Posts: 4227 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I shipped some a month ago.On the form just list them as empty brass cases and they will go there.No biggie
 
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With the world becoming ever increasingly paranoid since 9/11 and subsequent events, I'd be inclined to make very sure indeed that it was permitted before I popped anything in the post.

Why not make a few phone calls to people such as Cabela's and maybe US customs etc to ask their advice?

Probably not directly related to this case, but on the subject of unknowingly doing something against the rules, you might like to take a few minutes to watch this: http://video.google.com/google...833865&hl=en&fs=true






 
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Thank you, originally I was not going to watch it all.
Too compelling to stop watching. Should be required watching for all citizens, crooks already know it and innocent people are likely to have the hardest time proving they are NOT guilty.



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Posts: 4227 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Once fired brass is sold and mailed routinely within the US. Internet dealers and individuals advertise sales and mail fired brass - some even not previously deprimed.

I have also recently packaged and mailed a small quantity (2-3 cartridges) out of the country with no problems from the US Post Office. The package was labeled with the contents and included a statement that it was empty, fired, brass for a collector.

The Postal Service asked that a customs form be attached and a value assigned for customs. Then the package was dropped into the outgoing mail.


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Posts: 1313 | Location: The People's Republic of Maryland, USA | Registered: 05 August 2006Reply With Quote
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i shipped him some early last month - no problem
 
Posts: 13442 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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I sent a collector in Norway some brass around a month ago via regular mail with no problems. On the declaration form listed spent brass, even told the clerk exactly what it was and the reason for sending it. Just make sure the brass is unprimed.


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