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I'm just wondering how it works for an individual to ship a gun for sale to an FFL licensee - Is it up to the discretion of any FFL holder? Does it vary by state? Thanks. | ||
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By permission of the FFL. Verify FFL status. Include copy of your Drivers License. Alert Shipper of gun being sent. Send. Bob Jurewicz rjj | |||
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Depends on the FFL and the state. Kalifornia is another world altogether. If sending within a state, state laws apply. For example if you're in Texas and you're shipping to a buyer in Texas you can send directly to buyer, no FFL involved. | |||
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With in your own state you need to ship USPS. | |||
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Txlonghorn is incorrect. There are NO repeat NO different laws in California for an individual shipping a gun than any other state. Of course some guns are not allowed to be shipped to CA including handguns not on the CA Safe Handgun Roster. California requires FFL holders outside of CA who ship to FFL holders inside of CA to register with CA DOJ and then get get a shipping authorization number off of the CA DOJ website. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Coyotewacker, What law or rule are you citing that says within a state you must use USPS? Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I stand corrected. Thanks Mike. I knew FFL's had to jump through hoops and assumed individuals as well | |||
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Txlonghorn, It is a common misunderstanding. What's even more commonly misunderstood is the "hoops" for FFL holders. It take about 20 minutes to register online with CA DOJ and then about 5 minutes to get the shipping authorization. I don't like all of CA's gun laws but I can tell you, it is my fellow gun owners and out of state FFLs who infringe my rights more by saying "No Sales to CA" then any law in CA does. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Amen Mike! Nothing that pisses me off more that uninformed people doing that. Some even go as far as saying that WE need to change the laws here, but we are outnumbered by the anti-gun liberals in CA or we would have changed them a long time ago. But I don't have to tell you since you are right in the middle of the Liberal mecca where you live. I am to the point that if and when I start selling off some of my collection I think I will offer them to CA buyers only! | |||
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Mike and RJL, if that is the case, I have a question: I put a revolver up for sale on another forum. I was contacted by a CA resident who told me that there had to be CA provenance on the revolver in order for him to buy it, and since I live in TX, no matter how hard he tried he wouldn't be able to buy the gun. As I understood it, since the revolver was not in CA at present and not on some list, it could not be brought into the state. Is this correct, or was he mistaken? I know of no such law in TX... | |||
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Mike When I used to live in CA, I remember having to have some type of card to be able to buy guns and all transaction inside the state had to go FFL to FFL. I don't remember what I had to do to get such a card, that was 20 years ago though | |||
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TX Longhorn - to buy handguns you need have passed a firearms safety test. That may also apply to long guns now but I am not certain as it may have just gone into effect. Doubless - handguns present other complications. There are indiosynchroncies about private party handguns coming in from out out of state that I do not understand. It has to do with them being on the CA Handgun Roster. To be more accurate - my initial post is related to long guns. The issue with handguns (as I understand it is) dealers can't sell Non Rostered Handguns but the transaction could be done F-T-F but thru a dealer. So essentially you would need to come to CA. And yes all private party sales have to be done thru a dealer but not FFL to FFL...both parties show up at the dealer and the transaction occurs at the dealer and the dealer holds the gun for the 10 day period. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, I don't know exactly where I read it in the USPS rules it is stated they will allow shipment of long guns. Between individuals of the same state. FedEx and UPS will not, if they know its a long gun. I have had UPS and FedEx wanting a copy of the FFL that a long gun is being shipped to. In Michigan handguns are registered to a individual you must remove yourself, as owner by transferring to a Michigan FFL and have them ship it out of state. I have my FFL ship USPS in a flat rate box, it cost less than shipping FedEx. | |||
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Coyote wacker, yes fedex and ups often require a copy of the ffl but that doesn't mean you must use USPS and in-state or out of state has nothing to do with it. it is just fedex's and ups's silly rules additionally only an ffl can use usps to ship a handgun...a non ffl holder cannot use usps for a handgun Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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All the guns that I have shipped one way or another, I always had a copy of the FFL's signed license in my hands before I shipped to him.  Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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There is no need to have a copy of the FFL you are sending the gun to. Period. If you think you need one, try this...call Smith&Wesson, Colt or Ruger and tell them you want to ship a gun to them for repair. Then ask them to mail you a signed copy of their FFL so you can ship them a firearm.....let us know what they say when they stop laughing. It may be the preference to some dealers, but there is no federal law that requires this. State laws may exist stating this, but no federal. You can go to the BATF website and look up anyone's FFL if they give you the first two numbers, followed by the last four numbers. That will be able to tell you if they have a valid license. An individual can send any long gun through the USPS. Only dealers can send a handgun using USPS and it has to go to another dealer. As for FedEX, UPS, etc. their rules are THEIR rules and not those of the feds. | |||
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You can do this, but I would also recommend using the BATFE's EZ Check system to ensure that the FFL's license is current. Some FFLs won't actually send their license to a private, non-FFL individual, but will provide their FFL number (they don't even need to provide all of it), hence my use of the BATFE's site. https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/ _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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According to last ATF manual I read[about 2 years ago] you may ship a long gun WITHIN SAME STATE to another resident as long as resident is 21. Some states may disallow but Indiana allows. I personally would not do it unless I knew the person. | |||
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That's ok. Some people like to wear belts AND suspenders. | |||
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When the final owner has the gun and it is used in a felony, and you are the last registered owner of record. I will tell the BATF I sold it to John Doe and they tell me "come with us." I have a signed copy of a legal FFL dealer I shipped it to and he is the final recipient from me. He transfers it to the fianl buyer. All is above board and the paper trail stops with the final purchaser. I have experienced this with the BATF in an incident. Ask me if I have experience. The name of the game in these trying times is CYO (COVER YOUR ASS.) I will be selling most of my personal collection soon, getting too old and the cash will come in real handy to upgrade my Corvette. DO NOT TAKE THE CHANCE, LIFE IS TOO SHORT.  Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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You're right life's too short. I live in TX and I don't know who half my guns are registered to but it's not me ;-). You should look at the new vettes. They are beautiful. | |||
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You should live up here. Most of the lower 48 think we are a foreign country. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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WRONG. Notification only required if recipient does NOT hold an FFL. "§ 922 Unlawful acts. (e) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm." "§ 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier. (a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped: Provided, that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without violating any provision of this part. (b) No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container indicating that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm." Simply stated, it says this: "It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered...to persons other than...licensed dealers...any package...in which there is any firearm...without written notice to the carrier that such firearm...is being...shipped..." http://www.atf.gov/files/publi...d/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf | |||
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This is just beyond ignorant and stupid. Records of firearms sales, i.e. BATFE 4473s, are only archived in hard copy form and are kept in the dealer's possession for 10 years. If the dealer goes out of business within the 10-year window, then the records are turned over to the BATFE. Quit watching CSI and posting your malformed "theories" with no bearing in reality. | |||
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What happens to them after the 10 years if the dealer is still in business? | |||
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They can be destroyed. | |||
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Miles Massey, Ignorance and stupid is on your side of the fence. When I ship to an FFL There is a record of when I transfered possesion to the FFL. I am off the hook from then on. I don't want to get into a debate with you because everybody will see who you are. Have a fine day sir!  Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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First of all if you are shipping in State a FFL is not required on either end of the transaction.Second you can tell UPS or Fedex you are shipping machine parts or your mothers Gumbo.Just insure it so a signature is required for delivery.There is NO LAW requiring you to show some dumb ass Clerk a copy of an FFL. | |||
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Which is only maintained for ten years. Uh, no you're not. Firearms transactions aren't maintained in real time, bonehead. There won't be any "debate" because you're in over your head, dummy. | |||
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I appreciate your educated response sir. Have a fine day.  Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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All...say hello to Bricktop... He's a treat now enjoyed here on AR.  | |||
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You mean Bricktop of 24HR fame? Can it really be? | |||
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I sent a rifle back to Remington for a re-barrel and didn't need any sort of documentation. And they were gonna send it back the same way. Long story short, they screwed up the rifle and sent me a replacement. The replacement had to go through a FFL dealer. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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For some reason, several of his more obnoxious posts to another member disappeared when this thread was moved. The other member's posts also vanished. Personally all I can say is I'm really glad our proposed hog hunt fell through. He's waaay too smart for me to listen to his shit all day long.  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Two instances in my experience. I was living in India and bought a new Sako 375 H&H advertised in Utah. I got a third party, McClelland's Gun Shop in Dallas, to be the FFL receiver of the rifle. I picked it up from them, scoped, and bore-sighted about four months later. I intended to send an old Remington Model 1100 to Tulsa for repairs. I thought I could drop it off in person and they could send it back to me. They said they would have to ship it back to an FFL holder. The other option was that if I shipped it to them, they could ship it back to that same address; is what I understood. | |||
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Ya know it just ain't worth all the hassle trying to get around the bullKAKA. I have sold a few fire arms on the net but won't take the chance. Suppose a guy makes you a good offer on your firearm and you have to send it to him directly. He sends you the payment. Bingo, knows where to find you. You send the firearm directly to him. Bingo again, he sends the BATF dierectly to you with key type bracelets. Your a goner few a fist full of dollars! Just ain't worth it.  Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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For sure receipt from non-FFL holder is at the discretion of the receiving party. PCMIIW Support the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation | |||
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Good old brick top. "The problem with the gene pool is there is no lifeguard" | |||
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I let my FFL go when Clinton took office due to all the harrasment.At that time anything built before 1898 was exempt from using an FFL dealer.This took on additional problems vis a vis, selling C-96 "broomhandle" Mausers. Yes it was the model of 1896,but not definately the year of mfg. With the 93 + 95 Mausers there was no problem as when the 98 appeared,the older models became obsolete. I have been informed that the law is now that if you have a C+R (curio+relic)[very easy to get] license you may purchase independantly any piece over 50 years old.That opens up a whole new world of potential purchases; Mannlicher-Shounauers,Pre 64 Winchesters,ad nauseum. Personally I have a dealer who will do all my transfers for $10.00 each. It is not worth the trouble + paperwork to do otherwise. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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You moron. You keep coming up with these dickhead fantasies to explain your idiotic thought pattern and you're digging yourself into a deeper pit of stupidity with each and every post. There are penalties for a non-licensee who KNOWINGLY provides firearms to persons he KNOWS are prohibited from possessing them. There are no penalties for someone who provides a firearm to someone who has represented himself to be a lawful possessor of firearms and is later revealed not to be. The same damned thing applies to an FFL holder, numbnuts. Back before the NICS system became as "streamlined" as it is now, if a dealer didn't receive a decline or proceed notice within the allotted time, he was allowed to proceed with the sale and transfer. And there were LOTS of transactions that went through where the buyer turned out to be a prohibited person. And, no, the FFL holder didn't wind up in the dystopian fantasies that run through your empty head. | |||
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