The film "Enemy at the Gates" enjoyed a certain popularity in Russia. Of course, some episodes cause laughter audience, but in general more or less plausible scenario based on Russian books and great acting Jude Law.

vashper, were these popular in Russia? "From Russia With Love" (James Bond), or Clint Eastwood's "Fire Fox", or the older films "Doctor Strangelove" (Peter Sellers) and "Fail Safe" (Henry Fonda)?

"Doctor Zhivago" really had some great photography of your country landscape and music and captured what I imagine must have been the spirit of the times...that house in the country looked like an ice castle and the wolves howling out there were unforgettable...

This is one of the good ones to me:
DEATH HUNT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...ilpage&v=yzCjznfI7Ac

Guess I'll add Zulu to the list.

It's funny when you watch an old movie that you once loved but later it seems corny or not so good?

Watched Smokey and the Bandit yesterday.....not so good

Ted, I know what you mean. Sometimes they have these really old and out of the way Westerns on from the 30s or 40s and I occasionally recognize one, and ask myself, how in the world could I actually got so much out of that as a child...

Doug, I liked Zulu also, mainly for the "Men Of Harlech" singing. One of the best movie bits of singing I ever heard.

There were others but that was stirring. Just to name one, "Panzerlied" in "Battle Of The Bulge".

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It's funny when you watch an old movie that you once loved but later it seems corny or not so good?

Watched Smokey and the Bandit yesterday.....not so good

+1

I watched Escape From New York with Curt Russell last month. I remember watching it as a 9 year old: IT BLEW MY MIND! Seeing it again kinda ruined a great memory.

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Originally posted by Shack:
vashper, were these popular in Russia? "From Russia With Love" (James Bond), or Clint Eastwood's "Fire Fox", or the older films "Doctor Strangelove" (Peter Sellers) and "Fail Safe" (Henry Fonda)?

"Doctor Zhivago" really had some great photography of your country landscape and music and captured what I imagine must have been the spirit of the times...that house in the country looked like an ice castle and the wolves howling out there were unforgettable...

You see, if there is a traitor in the film , Russian , helping the Americans to steal a fighter or a submarine , then this movie is not popular in Russia . It is an objective reality. Try to imagine the situation reversed.
Generally all of the movies you wrote - are not well known , except for James Bond films. Especially Sean Connery that generally is a superstar in Russia . Daniel Craig is rather realistic, he may work as spy in East Europe

I did not look " fire fox ", so read the reviews on the pirate site , where it can be purchased :
"There was a better opinion of Eastwood to view this movie. Purely commercial project with a complete set of stamps . Tighten . Could be put in half an hour, easily . Translation spirit superbrain matters worse , sometimes delusional , plot moves . Did not want to offend anyone to express my personal opinion . For release - thanks anyway ...
Perhaps the weakest film Eastwood , who actually did a lot of great pictures. There is clearly felt order - type Ronnie Reagan asked a friend Clint bungled something sort of support in his struggle against the evil empire . But it worked without a soul , without a spark , and went stamping dull propaganda , which in the course of the Eastwood constantly sour boring mug . In the 60-s films on the theme of the Cold War have been much better to take at least "Dr. Strangelove " or " Russian go!" ...
A wonderful example of " branchy cranberry " "

I think a good story is more important than the entourage . Equally good "Yojimbo" "Per un pugno di dollari" "Last Man Standing" - and all of them are "The Glass Key".

" Western - it is simple and straight talk about morality " - as someone of American actors said , and this is true not only for westerns .
"Doctor Zhivago" - not distinguished story , and attempts to add it by the " national character " does not make it better. For example, a really outstanding music , built on the works of the great Russian composers, many loses due to excessive use of the balalaika . This is a rather primitive instrument , you know.

But when the Americans were made about Russian - that's nothing . I saw Vietnam movie where Vietnamese performed the roles of the American officers - that's where was the waste

vashper, I can understand where a Russian would not enjoy a film where the U.S. guy wins out over Russians. So I suppose "Fire Fox" and "Hunt For Red October" would have limited appeal in Russia. But really I found "Fire Fox" rather entertaining, but then I like Eastwood. He has a certain style that some of us guys like to imagine ourselves that way.

Personally, I never watch movies about Vietnam, probably for the same reason the typical Russian wouldn't like a movie about Afghanistan. Or the typical German would be sick and tired of U.S. WWII movies.

Anyway, the movie "Dr. Strangelove" really was very good (he and we supposedly had a "strange love", the atom bomb). Thing is, you must have a fine knowledge of English to appreciate the humor in it, as that's what really "made" that film. The rest of the movie you could understand, but not the subtle nuances that were really entertaining. Btw, Peter Sellers played three different parts in that movie, the British officer second in charge of the air base, the president and Dr. Strangelove, the German atomic scientist. He was so funny that other actors couldn't keep a straight face.

The point of the movie was to criticize the atomic stand-off during the Cold War and to try and bring the two counties closer together. That was the point of "Fail Safe" also, although it was far too heavy handed and unrealistic for me to say I enjoyed it.

Shark, I have come across on this site, in the " Humor ", with this problem - cultural differences , great and small . For example, the Russian do not drink alone and without snacks. It is unthinkable , even for the subject's finally descended . And when in the American film Russian general in the presence of other people are drinking alcohol from a flask - the audience just laughs wildly . It is simply impossible to imagine , like cannibalism at McDonalds (although I do not know how this in the U.S.) .
In defeat in war, there is nothing shameful . War is at the limit of human capabilities , and they are sometimes not enough. For example, Russia lost after its formation the Baltic Sea for some time. Russian spent 13 wars that lasted from 3 to 25 years each, to restore input to the Baltic Sea - and not all of these wars were successful.
Our soldiers fought in Afghanistan against the offensive of the Middle Ages, equipped with American dollars and Stinger missiles , and they were told that if we did not go into Afghanistan, Americans will come there to create a military base and a world center for the production of drugs - I must say, we considered this was communist propaganda .
And one of the most successful Russian films of recent times - " 9th company " - just about Afghanistan . Modern young audience watching it . My former boss , who fought in Afghanistan - looked too, and praised the "something like the truth ." He called on the position of his own batallion own artillery fire , when the position was captured by the enemy , and was wounded.
So defeat - this one, and betrayal - is another. In " fire fox " Clint Eastwood was helped by traitors who presented characters as spouses Rosenberg - and it does not help the film in winning popularity . But Eastwood is very popular by his another films.

As for the " Dr. Strangelove ", this film was mentioned in reviews as good , I watched it too , but unfortunately , much later than its creation. And if the transfer fails , the wit dialogues also escapes

vashper, I was trying to remember what movie with the Russian general and the flask. I thought that seemed very un general like myself. For anyone's military. Was that "Fire Fox"? Seems like it might have been "Octopussy"...Roger Moore as James Bond.

I liked Sean much better.

Speaking of Bond actors, I can't recall which it was, but there was one where this beautiful girl walks away from him, and Bond turns to the camera, to the audience, and says "that would NEVER have happened with the other Bond" - meaning Sean. Anyway, I don't remember if that was Roger Moore or one of the others.

"From Russia With Love" I think was a pretty good movie. Few know who the female villain, Col. Rosa Klebb of Spectre, was previously. She was the famous Lotte Lenya, the actress and singer. Her most famous song was "Seeräuber Jenny" in "Die Dreigroschenoper" by Bertold Brecht. That film is somewhat a college campus cult favorite and the song with the lyrics "und ein Schiff mit acht Segeln" was redone many times, by everyone from Hildegard Knef to Ute Lemper.

Anyway, Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" was on again last night. I was flipping back and forth between that and Jimmy Stewart's "The Flight Of The Phoenix".

Oh, Americans like snacks with drinks too, but will drink without snacks, with or without company, with or without mixers, with or without ice, and sometimes from the bottle...we're not particular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0clERjQ5A

I didn't know. Bertold Brecht was a cult figure in Soviet times.
"Girl walk away"? I think Kurilenko and Craig.
Shark, american filmes are on our TV every evening, many years, not only last years. Yesterday "Brothers of ring" and on another program some rather stupid film with Sharon Stoun. So (as in other countries) our citizens know Golliwood production well, but, I see, like some films less, than Americans. Another - better. I like Star Wars - but, may be, it's not "guy film"?

I believe campus audiences are more attracted to that song than to Brecht. But I'm sure some students who're going thru their "Left wing college days" probably approve of his deep devotion to Marxism (if they're smart enough to even know about it). They probably just find the whole thing kind of "exotic".

Btw, in case you didn't know it, there are MANY Communists in the U.S. At the leadership levels the main political party is deeply socialist. And the guy who's currently "our" president is a Communist. There's much evidence of that from way back. So is the gal who will most likely be the next president (she was in Viet Cong student rallies during the Vietnam War). They just tame it down a little to not scare the middle and upper classes so much and do what's necessary to co-operate with capitalism. But they don't like it.

Anyway, my favorite "und ein Schiff..." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=441hIQznRHU

She's pretty good too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iorZEEbAC4U - with her typical almost psychotic like excessive over the top acting. I've long been curous why Hollywood didn't take more notice of her. She'd been outstanding as a villain in a "Kill Bill" type movie, like in that role Daryl Hannah played...

Well, back to "guy movies"...

Anything John Wayne, a true American icon and man's man.