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I hate dirty cops.

Mike

We had a narc cop planting crushed gypsum on known dealers in the 1990s. He tried to justify it by saying they were dealing anyway, but he sped up the process. This was, of course, in the punishment stage after being found guilty. He had some shill in the lab that helped with the results. Cops don’t fare too well in gen pop.

I did work on the Innocence Project in law school. It was sad with some of those cases. Many had spent 30 plus years locked up when exculpatory evidence was not disclosed. Many cases were post Brady, which requires disclosure. In Texas, we now have Morton. Morton, among other things, has severe criminal penalties for prosecutors.

In cases like this, there is no grey area. The cop is either white or black in his convictions (+ no, this is NOT racial, far from it; get your mind around it). I know way too many stories about crooked cops but damned few about the good ones. Mores the pity but then the media does its duty in several areas, I.E. screws, everyone. Good cops get tainted with a dishonest brush.And we all know they do it for thst high wage,right?

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Originally posted by NormanConquest:
In cases like this, there is no grey area. The cop is either white or black in his convictions (+ no, this is NOT racial, far from it; get your mind around it). I know way too many stories about crooked cops but damned few about the good ones. Mores the pity but then the media does its duty in several areas, I.E. screws, everyone. Good cops get tainted with a dishonest brush.And we all know they do it for thst high wage,right?

Statistics work both ways in most of those cases. I know you didn’t want “politics,” involved. I just hope there was a body cam either way.

In the end, I hope the law wins. Media wins too much, especially in cases of different race.

A bad cop should never win if the evidence is proven against him against a reasonable doubt and found guilty by a jury of his peers (not officers, but citizens, as he was fired and I’ve had very few LEOs on juries).

Those that enforce the law shouldn’t be out breaking it. We have a few former LEOs here and seem straight up, but there are some that believe the badge gives them Wild West authority. To the majority, thanks for keeping my family safe.

Most cops are decent people, but one bad one can do a lot of damage.
Back in the 80s there was a new Jersey state cop who had a remarkable ability to spot druggies on the turnpike. Eventually, he was caught planting drugs on motorists.
But for the grace of God, it could have been any one of us wrongly convicted.

What's really infuriating is when the police union sticks up for these pieces of garbage.
We had a case in Oregon where a state trooper was found to have been having sex in uniform, on duty with a teenage ride-along and the union fought tooth and nail to have him reinstated and compensated after he was fired.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What's really infuriating is when the police union sticks up for these pieces of garbage.
We had a case in Oregon where a state trooper was found to have been having sex in uniform, on duty with a teenage ride-along and the union fought tooth and nail to have him reinstated and compensated after he was fired.

Kinda like our scumbag Congress.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What's really infuriating is when the police union sticks up for these pieces of garbage.
We had a case in Oregon where a state trooper was found to have been having sex in uniform, on duty with a teenage ride-along and the union fought tooth and nail to have him reinstated and compensated after he was fired.

The piece of shit who murdered Daniel Shaver was briefly rehired so he could get a lifetime pension.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What's really infuriating is when the police union sticks up for these pieces of garbage.
We had a case in Oregon where a state trooper was found to have been having sex in uniform, on duty with a teenage ride-along and the union fought tooth and nail to have him reinstated and compensated after he was fired.

Bill:

I don't know about police unions, but many unions are bound by law to protect and defend their union members.

Too bad, as I think the future of labor unions is to provide skilled workers (verify their craft through training, tests, and apprenticeships) and ensure they follow management rules, to the extent unions are the first line of supervision. If you had that, management might become pro union.

Thoughtful answer, AZ. I had to join a union for a couple of jobs back in college days, and the sophomoric us vs. them mentality was embarrassingly childlike and inherently combative, in my opinion. But most of us were unskilled laborers in this instance.

Being open shop myself I have never had any use for unions of any kind. I agree that at the beginning (labor wise) they had their place + improved the lot of the worker but they got too big + the graft + ridiculous wages commanded got out of hand. I have a friend who was an engineer (driving trains) for SOPAC in 1980. Right before the election at the union hall, the shop steward TOLD them that they were all required to vote for Carter +, not Reagen.

Many years ago when I was working for someone else before my self-employment; we had been hired as scabs to cross the picket lines to continue the ductwork installation on this job that was being hijacked by the union goons wanting more money. We went through their lines with our duct hammers in hand + ready to use them. I wouldn't like to do that on a regular basis.