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After reviewing several pictures of lion mounts on the internet i just have to wonder:

Are lion mounts extremely difficult?

I've seen some that look good and many others that just don't have the face/look right. Some look down right poor. Is it tough to get the "look" right?



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By the way Jerry, this doesn't apply to your work. Yours is about the best i've seen.



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All Cats, large and small, Canine's and Bears share a similar problem for the Taxidermist: how to show realistic expression. It is the most common mistake an inexperienced Taxidermist can make. One becomes an Artist by careful study and having a thick skin (for not getting insulted). Ask for critique and be prepared to get a new one ripped in your hind end. Patience and lots of practice makes one as close to perfection as we'll ever get....if one is above lucky! Invest in a Cat library and study photo's. Practice sculpting life size heads in clay. Not a clue? Take an art class, at least to get started. All the animals show expression. Do you own a pet? I bet you know your pet's feelings just by its expression. Practice!
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Cat taxidermy done well takes artistic skill and experience. Some taxidermists can know how its done and can get it done step by step but never seem to aquire that special "touch"; also African lions esp. have a lot of extra loose body skin and if not mounted the first time under the mentorship of an experienced and talented taxidermist using the very best supplies and refferences they can and usually do turn out poor. An African lion mount usually overwhelms a novice taxidermist, about half way through the job will become just completeing it; forget the details and fine tuning. Of course expect to pay more for top quality.
 
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When you walk into the lobby of the Hampton Inn at Oxford, Ms.,site of the University of Mississippi(GO REBELS), there are three separate lions exhibited in glass displays. Sure beats most motel entrances.
 
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LDK, I don't agree with your statement about BEARS. Bears usually have enough hide to hide imperfections in work. You're going to be hard pressed to find a bear without some drumming or wrinkled hide in a place or two. You ALWAYS have relief cuts to hide everything. Mountain lions and the African big cats are a whole nuther ball game. The short rugs on these guys make the relief cuts out of the question and even the stitching is open for the world to see unless you're damned fastidious about what you're doing. And you're GOING TO HAVE WRINKLES on the lions and some of the others as well. Good hide paste and a heavy handed roller will pack some of the hide down, but never all of it. If I had a 600 pound black bear and a 400 pound lion, the bear could be mounted in 2 days, 3 at the most, while the lion would take 4 or 5 days at the best. (That's REAL days by American workers standards, NOT taxidermists. LOL)


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LDK, I don't agree with your statement about BEARS. Bears usually have enough hide to hide imperfections in work. You're going to be hard pressed to find a bear without some drumming or wrinkled hide in a place or two. You ALWAYS have relief cuts to hide everything. Mountain lions and the African big cats are a whole nuther ball game. The short rugs on these guys make the relief cuts out of the question and even the stitching is open for the world to see unless you're damned fastidious about what you're doing. And you're GOING TO HAVE WRINKLES on the lions and some of the others as well. Good hide paste and a heavy handed roller will pack some of the hide down, but never all of it. If I had a 600 pound black bear and a 400 pound lion, the bear could be mounted in 2 days, 3 at the most, while the lion would take 4 or 5 days at the best. (That's REAL days by American workers standards, NOT taxidermists. LOL)


Your spot on here George, the bigger the cat the more loose skin your going to have, It takes a lot of study to know what to do with all the skin. It doesn't fit tight on the body, it hangs,folds and wrinkles all over the place.


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i think all the cats take a special touch. the muscle structure especially in the face is a difficult task to match. Then cats are mostly short on hair which hides some imperfections. The more cats a taxidermist does of course the better he going to get at it. Lions don't let to may have the practice to get really good.
 
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My statement has nothing to do with excess skin or hiding anything guys. EXPRESSION is my point. Many Taxidermists fail miserably at showing realistic facial expression in predators. The next time anyone visits a large hunting show and there are life size predator mounts, look at all the dead pan expressions on their faces and the unrealistic open mouths. As for African Lions that SilentT asks about, 90% of all the glass eyes used in such mounts have a totally incorrect color. I've seen live Lion's eyes closer than I ever care to see again. No problem disagreeing with me, but I think you missed my point concerning facial expressions.
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Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
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Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
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10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
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Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

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