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One of our own, David Keith's Client and Friend Marc, his leopard from Zimbabwe.
I hate those cardboard Zim skins.
This ones face was scared bad, he was quite the fighter, his forehead was trashed with scars between the eyes.
Those repairs came out quite nice.

The base was painted after the pics, I apologize for that.

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Stunning pose, looking like dinner might be right below. Simply beautiful!
 
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Awesome job Dennis...ALMOST as nice as mine!!
 
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Thanks Frank
Glad you like yours !
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That is a beautiful mount....nicely done !!!
 
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Look at a picture of a (live) big Leopard and you will see those "wrinkles". They are actually skin folds. Often younger cats don't have them...yet.

A top notch taxidermist like Dennis knows enough about anatomy to add them, since the mount pictured is a big older cat.
 
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By the way look at the proportions of that cat...he did a perfect job.

Dennis did my Leopard and it came out perfect...I am not posting here as a 'buddy"...I'm just a satisfied client. I never met the man.
 
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My taxidermist didn't do as well.....He said something was missing...



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dogcatcher, your points are valid, but you will never know what it like taking a bad Zimbabwe salted skin that tans out with the attributes of a wet piece of cardbord , no stretch and full of memory and trying to mount it.
In your critique you failed to mention the right front foot being so small, this skin had ZERO stretch in all 4 legs and they could not be produced any larger , and the left ear had major problems also, it hangs a little lower that it should.



This skin wss Far from a good tan, as they are in a perfect world.

Look at the post title, Just a leopard.
The rolls could not be piled on each other nor layed into each other, the skin would not let this be done, plain and simple it was to stiff.
I see your points and agree, But unless you have mounted a hundred leopards, and you have I don't know,You then would understand you do the best mount you can with the skin you have.

I don't mind your critique, some like my work others don't.

Hey Frank, that second picture he posted looks just like yours, oppsoite direction tho'
Same paw pose and all.
Kinda funny.
Take care, we will meet someday
Dennis
 
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Pretty nice stack of weenies on this Leopards neck isn't there?



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I agree with Dennis 100% regarding the condition of the skin. The old saying you can't make silk out of a sows ear is very true. We have a Zimbabwe leopard skin in our shop right now that I've seen better stretch out of a semi truck tire. The fact is you do the best you can with the cards you are dealt. There is always more to the story and Dennis just shared, as they say, the rest of the story... He was dealing with a sows ear and it looks a lot more like silk than most can do... Just my 2 cents...


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Thanks Jerry, Your to Funny.....
I couldn't find one real quick

And Dan, Thanks for the kind words.

Both you guys know what it's like to work with those things.

DENNIS
 
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Thanks for the response,dogcatcher223, it's always good to have differing opinions on a taxidermy piece. All true artwork will have people who love it and people who hate it.


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Jerry, that blurry pic is supposed to prove what?

You guys can bullshit hunters, but I am a taxidermist. You claim that skin had no stretch, but you had no problem finding extra skin to put in large wrinkles where they don't belong. Study your reference.

And to the Wildlife Gallery. The last cape I got from you had such terrible shaving it could explain the lack of stretch.


Can we see an example of your work on a leopard?
 
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I won't touch African game. Pain in the ass to mount. Not to mention having to pay extra for tanning etc due to crate disposal, the paperwork, no thanks!

 
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I won't touch African game. Pain in the ass to mount. Not to mention having to pay extra for tanning etc due to crate disposal, the paperwork, no thanks!


I have often heard the judge of a good taxidermists is work on cats...

So how about posting a mountain lion,bobcat?
 
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I won't touch African game. Pain in the ass to mount. Not to mention having to pay extra for tanning etc due to crate disposal, the paperwork, no thanks!



I agree that African skins are very hard to deal with.


This is true, and they can take extra time and effort to make them right ... but it can be done. I've even had those rubbery, memory laden hides give in to me after a while, and not an overly long while either. Just knowing some simple "old fashioned" museum tricks, can turn skins like this into a workable hide, even in this "modern" age! You just have to know what you're doing. Not taking them in is not the answer. Learning how to deal with them is.

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Hello Dogcatcher,

I am NOT a taxidermist just a hunter. Please post some pictures of the Leopards that you have mounted...I would love to see your work and maybe the taxidermists here can learn something from you.
Take Care, Frank
 
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Originally posted by dogcatcher223:
I won't touch African game. Pain in the ass to mount. [QUOTE]
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dogcatcher223,
These two sentences speak volumes.
African skins can be (for the most part) a different beast.
The Taxidermy Artist working with them must be:
Experienced
Have specimen knowledge
Be a proficient troubleshooter
and
Have patience

These qualities set the professional apart from the amateur.
If you don't work with African skins, you simply cannot understand.

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Hell, I was there....Mark's cat was a toad. He didn't get to take one bite before Mark nailed him on the bait. 17" skull; 167 pounds of ACTUAL weight, no BS or rusty farm scales. That Tom had lots of loose skin on him and was in excellent condition. Had been in a few fights judging from the scars on his head. Some large cats do show folds in their neck area, some do not, especially young or lean Toms. dogcatcher223, you won't learn everything about African game in a book, you should know that being that you are a Taxidermist.
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Toads are awesome! Nice mount.


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The underlaying issues with most African hides start with the outfit they were shot with..Dennis says that the skin was in horrible shape from Zim.. I would not blame Dennis at all. He did what he could with what he was shipped. I blame the piss poor handling squarely on the hunting outfit. They should (and do) know how to handle capes.. especially if they are selling high priced cat hunts.. Fresh FINE salt worked in AFTER the cat has been skinned, fleshed, turned, worked over to get the fat cells out, and soaked in a quick brine/antibacterial bath.. Then dried in a cool and DRY shady area.

But the problem is that they'll cut corners if they can.. Using season old reused (often NUMEROUS times) salt that's too course, etc.. Untrained staff who truly do not have any business skinning one's high dollar trophies. Bad equipment, .ie crap knives, sharpeners..

A crap African cape tests my patience..and a crap cat makes it 1000X worse..

Everytime I go, I make damned sure all is squared away with aspect of the hunt.. I've seen my own stuff come back wrecked one time too many.. A fresh batch of salt and a competent skinner are to be expected at a bare minimum when paying for these hunts.
 
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Scottyboy, I supervised the skinning, brining and salting. There were no corners cut at Ticky's: I assure you. My Leopard and trophies were there at the same time. Maybe the 11 months they stayed at Maple Freight/Taxidermy Enterprises played a role? They rejected Ticky's "dip & pack." Told him "No way can you ship both hunters trophies in one crate (my instructions) and "We" must "redo" the "Disinfecting." Ticky handled each piece to my perfect satisfaction and only charged $350 each for our trophies (dip/pack). TE/Maple was later rebuked by John Meehan/Fauna & Flora, as we CAN ship multiple hunters trophies in one crate. TE popped our ass for $1,000 (me) and $1,200 (Mark) each. I spent 17 years as a professional Taxidermist and served as VP of the TN Taxidermist Assoc. Big deal, not really, but I have extensive experience with African game and trophy prep. Dennis was handed skins that were "re-dipped" and then held captive in a Zim warehouse for 11 months.
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
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Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

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Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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Just what I thought...
 
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Dave,

fair enough.. I was hoping you would chime in.. I know you have alot of prior taxi experience.. I was also hoping that Ticky and his crew were not to blame.. Seems it was the RE-pack and dip is the culprit along with the extended wait.

My apologies to you and Ticky. My intention was not to run your's or Ticky's name through the muck.. It's the atrocious way our (hunters) hard earned and expensive trophies can be, and are, handled by those in Africa...pisses me off to no end!
 
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Drew, your personal vendetta against me has splilled over from Taxidermy.net I see.

LOL

4000fps, you deleted every post on that site that you ever made, Kinda funny but expected.

And I don't need Phil's link, We know each other personally.
 
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Drew, your personal vendetta against me has splilled over from Taxidermy.net I see.

LOL

4000fps, you deleted every post on that site that you ever made, Kinda funny but expected.

And I don't need Phil's link, We know each other personally.


That explains it, thanks Dennis


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Might as well keep this one going. Since 4-5 taxidermists have posted on this thread, let's hear what it is that you prefer. Would you rather when you post your pics, everyone give you the obligatory back pat, or would you rather hear what consumers and others in the industry think of your work? In my opinion (as a consumer) it would be in everyones best interest to accept constructive criticism, learn better techniques from your "competitors", learn what the customers do and don't like, and have the opportunity to correct any misconceptions by both in an open fashion. But instead this type of correction always seems to turn into finger pointing and a general write off of someone elses observations (some of which are very valid).
 
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They know what it's like to work with those type of hides and undertsand perfection is impossible under those cicumstances.
That's something you can't seem to grasp.



This post will be deleted today.
I won't be posting anymore pics here as I did it for the enjoyent of the client to see his cat on here, not for some pat on the back from my peers, or to listen to people are not aware of the circustances and who are not taxiderimts mouth off and stay hidden behind there computer screens.

Farewell all, I've enjoyed being with my fellow taxidermists on here. I hope Drew and 505 give you some nice pictures of their work to look at in the future on this thread.
 
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Well, I guess that answers that question. Roll Eyes
 
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On another forum I hang out in there's an area for custom made knives. It doesn't matter what kind of crap knife someone shows off everyone always says how nice it is even if it's obviously not nice. Far better to give an honest opinion and perhaps the poster can learn from other peoples opinions.... or not as he see fit.

Getting all bent out of shape over someones opinion speaks volumes about a person.
 
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Every piece of Taxidermy will have lovers, haters and everything in between. Never hurts to have differing opinions, from experts and from the lay persons. Ultimately the only opinion that really matters is the man who writes the check and hangs it on his wall.


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Every piece of Taxidermy will have lovers, haters and everything in between. Never hurts to have differing opinions, from experts and from the lay persons. Ultimately the only opinion that really matters is the man who writes the check and hangs it on his wall.


Jerry,

I respectfully would like to take that to the next level. I think what really matters is the satisfaction of the man or woman who writes the check. I have had my share of Taxi horror picture shows. I wrote the clown(s) one check.

What I really appreciate about this forum is the chance to compare services from all over. Let people chime in, and then sift through all the chaff.

That is exactly how I sent my last 3 mounts to Wildlife Gallery. I saw some pics of a leopard they did a while back. Told myself is I ever had the opportunity to shoot a tom, they would do the work. Well, its in my home, and it is spectacular!

All craftsmen are not created equal. And even though my skin was almost toxic, I will never have to make an excuse for my cat. Thank you WG, and to those other select few taxidermists who get it.


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Getting all bent out of shape over someones opinion speaks volumes about a person.

sorry, just thought that was worth re-posting.
 
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"the FACT is, there is no reference showing a cat with sausages in its neck. Look at Soucy's work, and you will see what an anatomically correct cat looks like."

Really? I guess these are what...tube worms under his neck?


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http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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so drew, is it normal for you to stalk people on the net, there seems to be quite a history between you and dennis.

i have enjoyed dennis pictures and his work emensly and it seems that your stupid remarks and sad envy of his sucess and level of expertice has run him of from this site.

would you please follow him out the door and dont let it hit you on your way out, as your demeanor is lacking a lot in regard to attitude between competitors

505 gibbs: pissing gasoline on the bushfire is about as grown up as the asian tread you participated in, if you like this kind of interaction would you mind going to the political forum, please.

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505 gibbs: pissing gasoline on the bushfire is about as grown up as the asian tread you participated in, if you like this kind of interaction would you mind going to the political forum, please.

Actually Peter, I only made an observation and it was my honest interpretation of this "situation". I then "seconded" what someone else said as I agreed with it. Which gets to your post, maybe the people who need to leave these forums are those that are too thin skinned to participate. In my original post on this thread I asked a question, it was not rhetorical, I wanted an answer. Instead, all I get is Dennis crying that he is taking his ball and going home and you telling me I should leave, and I am the one with the problem? Look in the mirror Peter, what you will see looking back at you is a child. Wink
 
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505 i feel sorry for that kid in the mirror, he has way to many wrinkles and scars, who did that to him ? Smiler

mate it is not about being thin skinned, at least i dont think so but over the last few months stupid fights have exploded all over the forums, with remarks that truly belong in the PF, i am just getting a bit sick of the school boy BS in places, where i think we could easyly be without it.

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