This is a scientific survey so don't vote more than twice and no pontification please.

There is alot of controversy over hunting behind wire in NORTH AMERICA. You can vote for or against, no qualifications on size or terrain.

"I support hunting or shooting of Game Animals within enclosures".

YES or NO

You are limited to one succinct sentence in support of your vote.

NO

And good luck on getting just one succinct sentence onthis topic....

NO!

Chuck

No.

NO! I consider killing animals inside of a fence slaughtering them not hunting.

No

Two words; fair chase.

No.

I personally don't support it in N. America, but Money = Power, and we are going to lose this battle. Hunting WILL be a sport for the Rich in the next 50-100 years, here in the US. It's all about the almighty Dollar. To me my hunting heritage IS NOT FOR SALE!
I am one of the most Law abiding hunters I know, but I am scared to think that when I am in my 60's, I may be sniping a fence to go poach one of the King's deer. Sad.
(I'd quit hunting before I would stoop to that, but you get my point!)

[ 04-17-2003, 21:43: Message edited by: Mark G ]

Yes, shooting an animal on someones ranch for money should be legal.

No, it is not hunting! It is shooting.

NO.

Doc in Texas

NO! The day I have to hunt inside a high fence is the day I give up hunting!

Bullshit.

It is not a scientific survey. You cannot get a random sample off an Internet web site. You cannot control who answers at all, let alone who answers more than once.

I think it's a great discussion topic, or it would be except you stand up like you have authority and tell people they can only have one sentence worth of support.

Sorry to sound irritated, but I am.

kk

Unbunch your panties kk, it's just a poll.

Yes

It's not hunting, though, just the killing of farm animals. If that get's you off, go for it.

NO

Bakes

NO.

What happened to Fair Chase?

No. That stuff is for fat-boy, turd-tapping dingleberries.

NO to calling it hunting.
Yes to calling it shooting.

No
I won't personnally spend my money on it, but I don't have a problem with anyone else doing it.

Depends.

I hate canned hunting as much as anyone, but I will not condemn the fellow that hunts whitetails on 10,000 acres of fenced brush country.

Yes, If it is a large, privately owned farm or ranch. No if it is penned.

Yes to exotics(they should be kept within a high fence anyway).

No to native game(not realy wild then). Some ranches are big enough to keep it fair chase but I won't be spending my money there. I live in one hell of a hunters paradise.

yawn, yawn......this kinda topic belongs on the politics page

Yes.

A fat-boy, turd-tapping dingleberry (I think I got that right),who has two freezers filled with Axis, Blackbuck and Elk.
aka

no but the size of the enclosure has got to count for something.

Nope

Yes
Not everyone can spend their whole life scouting for deer, some folks have to get out and work for a living.

NO!!!! For all the reasons already listed!

id hardly call it hunting

No.

Yes
As long as unwelcome deer dogs can legally run through my property and under my stand All the handler has to do is make a good faith effort to stop them. Right!!

Roads

Yes.
As long as the area is big enough. Don't care for pen shooting.

Yes.

Drive 10 miles east. Drive 10 miles south. Drive 10 miles west. Drive 10 miles north. Inside that 100 square miles find a whitetail buck. Not fair chase? Please. How many deer roam over more than 100 sq miles in their life? Size must be taken into account or you can't have a serious conversation about the topic.

PS I've never done it but I might under the right conditions.

YES! If lots of acres and habitat!

Not for me, thanks. I enjoy the *hunt* too much. Coming home empty-handed isn't the end of the world.

quote:

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Originally posted by Mickey1:
"I support hunting or shooting of Game Animals within enclosures".

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I see it as shooting , not hunting .

Not only yes but "HELL YES" So long as there is enough territory. I don't have to try and prove my manhood by traipsing all over the country and going home smelling like a man and thumping my chest and screaming "I am a hunter" uggg ugg ooh ooh! Now spread your legs woman!

Wait a minute...I think our "scientific" survey, has gotten a little confusing.
Do you mean, as previous stated "high fence" hunts, aka, the animal cant leave the vicinity, or the range of the hunter???
Or 1000's of acres of private hunting land, that allows the game to leave the private land, at their leisure??
I hunt the latter. And see nothing wrong with that...period.
This allows me to get off work, board an aircraft, and fly to my hunting area, and compete with all that nature has to offer, but NOT compete with 100's of other hunters, scaring game, loose dogs, etc.
Iam self employed, I get very little free time to hunt, fish, or even see my family unit, for Pete's sake.
These types of private ranch hunts, give me the best opportunity to harvest a trophy class animal.
High fenced hunting, on limited land, or "guaranteed kills", is not MY idea of hunting, mind you...but, that's their rodeo.
I dont have time to scout for my own game, God knows I wish I could.
You see, my idea of a long weekend, is Sat. and Sun. off from work.
"guaranteed hunts", not fair chase, NO...
Private land, w/ the animal able to leave said private land.....you bet....sakofan...

So if high-fence hunting is unethical, regardless of the parcel's size, then that makes fishing on lakes unethical, as well. Where can the poor fishies go to escape???

It's ridiculous! Just like you don't always come home with a stringer full of fish from a lake every time, so you don't always bag an animal on a fenced parcel.

As alluded to above, it's not the fence that makes it unethical, but any "guarantee." The two don't always go hand-in-hand. Anytime that word is used in reference to a "hunt," then there's an ethical problem, no doubt.

On a related note, the increasing recurrence of Texas- and SW USA-bashing, however subtle, is getting old around here. We don't need to be dealing with this self-righteous crap from each other.

It may surprise some folks, but there are not a lot of public land hunting opportunities down here. So, unlike some of our more ethically enlightened Northern brethren, we have a little more invested in our hunts than the cost of a box of shells (amortized over 15 years) and half a tank of gas for the trip to the National Forest.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

RSY