Hmmm....

I'm interested in seeing who gets what for which, not because I'm rolling in it but just to know. Once in awhile I get into enough leftover cash to think about a guided trip. Most of the time I freelance on BLM land, which gets me out of the house.

Tom

Big Bores:

Very lamentable situation - public hunting in AZ.

Try Wyoming where you can get back in off the road and never see a hunter and not hear a shot all day long?

Another recommendation - Montana. The Montana government made a deal with land owners. The govt pays them annually to open their land to hunters.

Another recommendation -. Indian reservations. Did you know that the reservations are not subject to State game laws, nor seasons nor limits?

There is the Wind River Indian Reservation, ( Wind River Visitors Council 1-800-645-6233 ).

And in Montana there are the ( Indian Reservations ) :

Fort Peck
Fort Belknap
Rocky Boys
Blackfeet
Flathead
Crow
Northern Cheyenne

Has anyone ever asked them?

Is a guided hunt hunting? You are met, transported, fed, lead out into the hunt area, the game is pointed out to you and you shoot. Is that actually hunting or just shooting?

You do not use any skills, or knowledge. You just follow someone else who does everything. Why not just have the guide also shoot the game and just haul it home. And on the game ranches the game isn't born and bred in the wild, as in a wilderness area, it is game farm raised in many cases. And furthermore, on many "managed" ranches you cannot shoot the biggest and best unless the owners specifically say you can. You may be required to settle for a lesser rack according to their "management" plan.

And furthermore, there are game farms and "hunting clubs" that feed the deer, either directly or by way of food plots, and supply them with salt, minerals and supplements to improve the body and rack size.

Guys, there are years in which the hunting revenues are the ONLY thing that keeps ranchers out of bankruptcy court. I can't blame them for trying to survive, and none of them get rich unless they sell their land....

Ray,

I support you in your effort to help this rancher out. While we have never met face to face, I feel I know you. I can't say why... any way here are some pictures of some puppies I got a few years ago from some guy in Idaho. Mail order deal, you know. Maybe you know him?

Sorry Ray, I couldn't help it!

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Wendell Reich
Hunter's Quest International

[This message has been edited by Buffalobwana (edited 08-31-2001).]

That's the funniest darn thing that I've ever seen. Way to go!

William,

I think you are maybe (?) just trying to have some fun and see who else you can rile up to keep this thread smoking. I for one will not take that bait. Lets just agree that you can hunt your way, and others can hunt their way, and its all hunting. Give me a break. As far as hunting Indian Reservations, I have had a very bad time with a reservation in AZ, and do not plan on hunting anymore reservations. I have been looking for a bear hunt in Montana for next fall, at least that state doesn't (yet) seem to try to bend over the out of state hunters. Obviously a working stiff like me doesn't have the luxury of taking many many days off, travel to another state several times, just to scout locations and food/herd situations in order to know where to hunt when the season arrives. That is the purpose for hiring a guide. Like I said, give me a break "its not hunting" PULEEEZEE!

Buffalowana,
In the words of an infamous president, "I did not have sex with that bitch"

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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Ray,

There might be some truth in that last statement of your, but I still don't believe your ex-president!

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

An enjoyable thread to read. If'n bullshit was music, we could have a full brass band here.

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"�and I believe further, that [our new Constitutional government] is likely
to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in
despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become
so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."

-from Benjamin Franklin's speech upon signing the Constitution.---------Chainsaw

Jeeez Chainsaw that is cryptic, and has come to pass as we can clearly see with the previous administration...

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Ray Atkinson

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atkinsonhunting.com

Are there any of those pups left? I could use a good dog.

Naw, I had to shoot most of 'em! Worthless!! Every one of em! Except fur the wun with thu white fur on his lip, I think he just might turn out to be a purty good hunter!

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Wendell Reich
Hunter's Quest International

Carefull Wendell I gotta hunch he'd chase rabbits and howl at the moon , piss on yur leg and fart in the kitchen, but I guarentee he won't hump your leg......

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

Ray:

Thanks for the great compliment. I happen to one of those guys that makes a lot less than what most folks would think, but live in the old house, and drive the old car.

But I also happen to hunt Africa each year, and only hunt in my back yard the rest of the year.

I don't care what they charge for a Deer hunt, in Texas or any where else. Only one hour drive away from me is the Sanctuary, and they get BIG money for BIG Deer. And are booked full each season.

So be it, I can to Africa for what a week up there costs.

To each his own.

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May I be half the man my dog thinks I am.

Terry,
I'm booked full except for Nov. 7,8,9 and Nov.24,25,,26 I think or at least the last I heard.....

I got that inspiration from you as a matter a fact, as I knew from past converstations with you that was the case, as with many other hunters...I actually deal more with middle class clients than most booking agents...

Most of the jet set, Royality and Oil tycoons book with Tanzania Game Trackers and they are top notch, and they have been in business for literaly decades, and their PH's are famous and deservedly so...I book for them also...but they ain't cheap! and I don't know a lot of Kings...

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com