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Folks: My wife’s best friend’s mother fell out of her treestand last night. Fractured pelvis and spine. I am withholding details. She was air evac to UT Hospital. I refuse to hunt in those damn things. Use those harnesses. Keep them rigged right, clean, changed, serviced, whatever one is suppose to do. Familiarity breeds complacency. Complacency breeds tragedy. | ||
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So sorry to hear. Safety first. ~Ann   | |||
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That's terrible. Prayers for a quick recovery. Guns and hunting | |||
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Yea , that’s bad news for sure .. I fell out once when my homemade one collapsed It’s not good There was a local guy here that died from a tree stand fall Wish her a speedy recovery DRSS Chapuis 9.3 x 74 R RSM. 416 Rigby RSM 375 H&H | |||
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When I hunted Kansas a few years back, the guide wanted me to crawl up in one that was obviously dicey. I refused and still hunted. He was not happy. | |||
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I no longer use tree stands. I have spent many many hours in them when younger. I took a fall when trying to cut a limb about 10 feet being in my 20's and great physical shape. Most likely save me from harm. I now sit in pop up ground blinds a lot of times with a propane heater. At times not caring if I shoot another deer or not. A former coworker all most died when his home made stand gave away and he hit the ground. At 71yoa. Took him close to 3 years to mostly recover. Be very careful and use a harness. | |||
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Was it a climber? Those are definitely dangerous. I still use them but I try to always use the safety harness. I hope she recovers . | |||
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Hope she is on her way to recovery Been using ground blind for years due to having close calls on those damn things | |||
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Prayers for a swift and complete recovery. DRSS | |||
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A climber is two pieces. There is a bottom/base piece for your feet and the upper piece you set on. Each piece has V shaped metal w teeth cut into the V. You use the two pieces to cline, scuttle up the tree. There are no extra steps holding the two pieces of the climbing stand to the tree. Simply the friction of the teeth and one loop that goes around the tree for both parts. Think Summit. We went and saw her yesterday. The Good needs she is not paralyzed and got internal bleeding to stop, and surgery was a success. | |||
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Damn. I use Summit. | |||
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I did done third party contract brief writing for a firm that sued Summit. The entire frame broke at the welds. The guy broke his leg. Overall his damages were limited. | |||
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This reminded me of when I fell from a big Ponderosa Pine while hanging a tree stand on an elk hunt. I fell straight backward from about 12’ up, landing flat on my back. A couple seconds later the tree stand landed on me. I was alone in a remote spot, so very lucky that the only thing wounded was my pride. Glad to read that her surgery was successful. She’ll have a long road to recovery. | |||
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This reminded me of when I fell from a big Ponderosa Pine while hanging a tree stand on an elk hunt. I fell straight backward from about 12’ up, landing flat on my back. A couple seconds later the tree stand landed on me. I was alone in a remote spot, so very lucky that the only thing wounded was my pride. Learned a painful lesson to not hang tree stands in Ponderosa Pines. Glad to read that her surgery was successful. She’ll have a long road to recovery. | |||
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Remember the original Baker tree stands? You'd shift your weight a bit and the thing would slide down to the ground. Suicidal! | |||
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I hope she recovers well and gets back to hunting if she wishes. For me, I hate stand hunting. I am scared of heights and I am not a patient bushwhacker. | |||
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She is certainly going hunting again. She told her husband to go pull the card from the trail camera to see if the buck came through that day. | |||
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Sound like she was fortunate. Spinal fractures and pelvic fractures are dangerous. Good to hear it hasn’t made her change her desires, although those tree stands are dangerous. I prefer ground blinds or a tower blind… I guess I’m a little afraid of heights that way. | |||
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Hope she recovers quickly. I look back on my last 50 years of hunting and just am amazed that it's never happened to me. I remember climbing my way up trees while pulling up and nailing in 2x4 steps in order to get higher and then nailing boards across two limbs to create the seat. Only thing we thought was dangerous was when we tested out the seat. "Catch me if it breaks" was common. Some of those stands reached up to 30 feet. Now If my feet leave the ground, I'm in a harness. | |||
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That's scary. back in '07 my pops wasn't hunting, but removing a ladder stand when it shifted and he fell off, breaking his pelvis into 6 pieces when his hip went through it. Survived damn near freezing to death before he was found, a big surgery to put humpty dumpty back together, then luckily survived a few blood clots. i still love tree stands but i use a lifeline now so i'm hooked up from the first step to the top. I keep thinking though I should just build a 4' platform to get a little height and put a ground blind on top, seems safer. Good luck to your friend, hope she is back at it soon! | |||
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I used a climbing stand for awhile to trim fronds off a too-tall palm tree, gave it up. Not stable enough, and scary when the wind comes up. It's for free, if anyone wants it... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I have hunted in these stands since the 80’s. Personally, I like them. However one does have to be careful. On the Summit stands, the sections of the stand cannot be level and certainly not below . The frame needs to be leaning into the tree not away from it. I am not saying that happened in this case . Personally, I have has one incident . It was a borrowed stand . He had no rope to tie the sections together . Bottom section fell to the ground . | |||
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She was not hunting out of a summit. I was explaining what a climber was. I used summit to give the reader an example, and I worked in a case that a summit let go at the frame. She fell out of a ladder stand climbing up into the stand. She fell when she started to step up and into the deck. She had on no harness, and down she came. | |||
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How are you supposed to wear a harness when you’re climbing a ladder stand? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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A top rope and a anti slip device. Or clip a carabiner above you every few steps as you go up. Never rock climbed have you. | |||
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For people interested look up saddle hunting . Some of my older hunting friends swear by it very safe if done properly. As a former rock climber I can see it is. | |||
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It is a non issue. You use something like this attached to a harness. https://www.sportsmansguide.co...b_i_llirjwgof78rm6ke Here is a nice little article on the subject. https://outdoors.stackexchange...arness-or-a-climbers There is no excuse not to use one. | |||
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I hunt my own land, so I screw a piece of plywood across a couple branches. I use the limbs as a ladder. I can do one arm pullups, so have complete confidence in grabbing a limb to keep from falling. No-one wants to use my stands because they call them "nose bleed stands" they are so high they get a nosebleed getting up to them. Some day I will have to look into all the new tech in portables. | |||
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Use what you want. It only takes one slip. You are going to do what you want, and so be it. Everybody thinks they will until you go to Grab for a limb and miss or it breaks. Maybe you come down at an awkward angle and can’t grub a limb. Maybe one day you will be too hold for that life saving pull up. Maybe you hit your head when you fall and are not able to make the grab. Like I said, you are going to do what you want, but your mindset is stupid and asking for a wheel chair. My friend suffers a very painful set back this week. | |||
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I have lived with my choices all my life heym. I will decide when it time to make changes, not by what happens to someone else. As I said, I have as much confidence as I would in a harness system, that "could" also fail. Life has no guarantees that I know of. | |||
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I did not say you would not. However, the old saying is true. It does not take a man to stand there and get his brains beat in. The same applies to this situation. I am not going, and do not have to let you stupid bravado go unrebutted on this matter. Your position and belief of what you will be able to do is stupid. If you think being able to grab a limb on the way down is equal to a harness system, you are being stupid. Sadly, it will not be just you that suffers of your theory is ever tested. There are no guarantees. Well, some bets are better than others. | |||
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And if you think what a little juvenile lawyer has to say, you can kiss my ass. A softwood tree, which I always put my stand in, has rings and rings of branches and easier to climb than tree pegs.Lawyers make their living on suing manufacturers. | |||
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Yawn. Like I said, you are going to do what you are going to do. Your rational and actions are stupid. All can see they are. You are just a very bitter person. Juvenile is thinking you are going to grab a limb and pull your self up like Tarzan. You just look stupid. You are not going to catch yourself coming head first out of a tree. It is not as safe, smart, or anywhere near wearing proper safety equipment. It is foolishness by bravado. I hope it does not catch up to you. Wheel chairs are worse than caskets. Familiarity breeds complacency. Completely breeds tragedy. You did not finish your first sentence. I do not care what you think. Your bravado, arrogance, and stupidity will not be unrebutted. If you do not like it, go talk your idiocy somewhere else. I do not care what you do not care about. This issue of safety is not up for debate. There is no place for your type of bravado and stupid belief you will Tarzan yourself from falling when hunting from Tree stands. Folks die and get seriously injured from -0 fewer up saying, “ I can just land on my feet.” Your example on this issue is idiocy. My being a last has nothing to do with you being stupid in your daily hunting life or you giving stupid examples. You are not going to pull up your way to saftey taking an uncontrolled fall out of a tee. That is juvenile. | |||
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I did a lot of that in my youth until a limb broke. I fell backwards only about 4 feet off the ground I landed on a pair of rattling horns with the points up right. Good thing I had heavy clothes on. Very painful no lasting effects. | |||
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Years ago I tripped and fell on rattling horn, scary and since then I made rattling bag out of few split up broom handles …works like a charm and you just carry it in your pocket and like I said before, long time ago, I started using ground blinds and they work in just about every situation so no need for tree stands | |||
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8 billion people in the world, and heym thinks he rules them all. On the PF he told people "it's his job to police what is said" over there. He makes Trump look benign in his replies. I am the least bitter person you would ever find, I feel everyone has the right to do as they wish inside the law, and not be told what to do. | |||
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PD, you made me remember something. I always pull my rifle up with paracord once I'm seated. One time I let the cord fall back down, and didnt pull it up. A doe came walking right under the tree I was in. It saw, and smelled the cord a foot or so out from the trunk. It then looked right up the length of that cord, and into my eyes. The does eyes all but bulged in surprise when she saw me!! | |||
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Back40 is an adult and can do whatever he wants especially on his own property. I don't get the hall monitor horseshit and calling him stupid. Unless I missed it he didn't tell anyone else how to hunt. Give it a rest. I have a buddy who is about 6 ft 7 and strong as hell who has torn both of his biceps falling and grabbing onto limbs. S*** happens and it's his choice. Not mine. _________________________ Liberalism is a mental disorder. | |||
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