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The freezer is now officially full
28 October 2018, 07:05
Mike_DettorreThe freezer is now officially full
Took this cow elk on the 26th
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
28 October 2018, 07:53
dpcdVery nice.
28 October 2018, 08:03
SnellstromNice shooting Mike, and that is the perfect size cow. The best eating ever.
28 October 2018, 08:41
SaeedYou shot an elkina!
This is what Walter calls them if they are female.
Once he was trying to shoot a kudu cow.
After the shot, he said "I got my kudina!
28 October 2018, 09:31
TexKDquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
You shot an elkina!
This is what Walter calls them if they are female.
Once he was trying to shoot a kudu cow.
After the shot, he said "I got my kudina!
Im going to have to steal that one. ^^
Good one Mike and looks like the tasty type - I hope to do the same but with my Sharps rifle here in about a month.
28 October 2018, 10:09
30.06kingYou have had a fantastic week with the 300 WSM. Well done and congrats again Mike.
Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing.
28 October 2018, 10:14
surefire7Congrats Mike.
Cow elk are such good eating too!
300 yds. standing off sticks is no slam dunk. Nice shooting!
28 October 2018, 17:02
WLWNicely done Mike. Will be working on my freezer next weekend.
28 October 2018, 18:30
CrazyhorseconsultingGreat size cow for the freezer, should be tender and tasty. Congratulations.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
28 October 2018, 19:00
LHeym500quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Took this cow elk on the 26th, a lasered 300 yards standing off of tripod sticks.
I am really starting to love my 300 WSM X-bolt.
Best trophy of all. Enjoy.
28 October 2018, 19:06
BlacktailerNice!
Have gun- Will travel
The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark
28 October 2018, 19:20
zeeriverrat1That should be some fine eating. Looks like you are having a great hunting season!
28 October 2018, 20:13
Aspen Hill AdventuresExcellent! Same place as your mule deer?
~Ann
28 October 2018, 20:16
HogbreathOutstanding! I have a 4th season cow tag in CO that I'll be looking to fill....
Congratulations!
Guns and hunting
28 October 2018, 21:02
NavalukWas it a female calf? If so, are they better eating than say an adult 2-4 year old cow?
28 October 2018, 21:52
AnotherAZWriterMike:
I have an X Bolt in .308 Win and it is incredibly accurate for an out of the box rifle. In fact, the only rifle out of the box that has done better is my Savage Lapua.
28 October 2018, 23:34
Mike_DettorreAnn,
Yes, it was the same location a couple ridges over.
Navaluk,
It was not calf nor was it a 5-7 year old cow. It was probably 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years old.
Regarding taste, I have no doubt that a calf in general is more tender but I highly doubt that anybody when doing a side by side taste test could consistently pick out that sample A is a calf backstrap and sample B is 2-3 year old backstrap and sample C is a 5 year old cow .
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
28 October 2018, 23:54
AtkinsonCongratulations on a fine cow. Life will be much better when you don't have to chew bull meat all year long!! Got myself a big cow a couple of weeks ago, south of twin Falls in Unit 54 with my 06 and a 200 gr. Accubond.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
29 October 2018, 00:17
AnotherAZWriterquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ann,
Yes, it was the same location a couple ridges over.
Navaluk,
It was not calf nor was it a 5-7 year old cow. It was probably 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years old.
Regarding taste, I have no doubt that a calf in general is more tender but I highly doubt that anybody when doing a side by side taste test could consistently pick out that sample A is a calf backstrap and sample B is 2-3 year old backstrap and sample C is a 5 year old cow .
I have never shot a cow but the most tender elk I ever ate was a big six by. Ditto for moose: the biggest one I shot was not the most tender, but neither was the smallest, but a 56 inch AK moose was. Same with deer; I had two in the freezer this past year, and certainly can't tell the difference between the small six point I shot and a much larger 10 pt.
29 October 2018, 01:02
Kyler HamannNice job!
29 October 2018, 04:24
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Regarding taste, I have no doubt that a calf in general is more tender but I highly doubt that anybody when doing a side by side taste test could consistently pick out that sample A is a calf backstrap and sample B is 2-3 year old backstrap and sample C is a 5 year old cow .
I killed a calf elk in January of 2016. It's meat was tender but I found it to be lacking in flavor. The meat was much lighter in color than the meat of a mature elk or deer. It could almost have passed are wild hog as far as color goes.
I would take a fat mature cow over a calf.
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
29 October 2018, 08:11
Lamarwhy didn't you say you were staying in the area?
I could have shown you some back roads, and took you out fishing.
I thought you'd gone home.
02 November 2018, 19:28
chilcotin hillbillyGood job, MIke, and good eating.
Doug McMann
www.skinnercreekhunts.comph# 250-476-1288
Fax # 250-476-1288
PO Box 27
Tatlayoko Lake, BC
Canada
V0L 1W0
email skinnercreek@telus.net
11 November 2018, 05:29
georgeldbest elk we've ever eaten was late August
during 'ranchers season'
George
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