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regardless of what happened, this shouldn't have happened. A damn shame....
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Horrible. | |||
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Very tragic no matter how it occurred. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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members of the Sheriffs Office, medical Personal, and University of Alabama personal who had anything to do with this case should all be fired for gross negligence in handling this case. Bunn is a member of the Alabama Conservation Advisory Board, app by now ousted Alabama Gov Bentley. Birmingham, Al | |||
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If he is guilty, perhaps this article will provide a little humiliation for him. He might need more than that. | |||
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Lesson don't go out and get drunk. Regretting it in the morning doesn't make it rape. | |||
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Sad story. But how in the hell does this shit have anything at all to do with "American Big Game Hunting"? Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor | |||
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I agree with Slowpoke. This has nothing to do with "American Big Game Hunting" and should be removed and the poster warned about sticking to the topic! Maybe because he might drive a BMW the story should be put on a car forum for BMW drivers! I have had some people close to me commit suicide and in sorting through it. It is a very selfish act unless you are terminally ill and the people you leave behind are the affected! Zim 2006 Zim 2007 Namibia 2013 Brown Bear Togiak Nat'l Refuge Sep 2010 Argentina 2019 RSA 2023 Tanzania 2024 SCI Life Member USMC | |||
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Because the principal is a well known American and a Big Game hunter. Perhaps you can see the connection? Or then again, maybe not. Don't like what I post, don't read it or put me on ignore. Suits the hell out of me. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Like Gatogordo said he posted because the alledged rapist is a well known , world traveled big game hunter, along with his dad. Birmingham, Al | |||
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"Because the principal is a well known American and a Big Game hunter." Why would he be "well known" to anybody outside of the local area? Was he a hunting celebrity that was on TV? Does his business have anything to do with hunting? Looks to me like he was just a well-to-do businessman who happened to enjoy hunting and is alleged to have committed a crime that's completely unrelated to hunting. He used his power and influence. These people can be found everywhere and are not a reflection of the hunting community. No longer Bigasanelk | |||
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I didn't post this as a be-all, end-all possible Pulitzer Prize article. The thread heading says all any reasonably intelligent person would need to know as to whether he would care to read further or not. If someone cares to read it, fine. There are numerous people who don't live in Wisconsin, that might know the man. At any rate, I found it to be a very sad tale that I found interesting. If you don't, then by all means, READ the damn heading and don't read it. Then, don't waste my and your time by arguing semantics about something you don't have any interest in. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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This story(not the shitty article, but the story itself) should be required reading for ALL parents of young girls and ALL young women. No young woman deserves to be victimized. Having said that, all young women need to do everything they can to protect themselves at all times. For whatever reason this girl did several things to put herself in danger(underage drinking, drunk in public alone at night in "short" shorts, accepting a ride from two male strangers, etc.). I fell horrible for everyone involved, especially the girl and her family. Parents need to impress upon their daughters that the world is not a safe or "fair" place. The real world is not romper-room. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I don't know why Gato posted this, but it is interesting how the author of the article placed so much focus on the fact that the accused was a hunter and the victim was a vegitarian.... Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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This story proves that in America you are guilty until proven rich. | |||
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So then put the goddamn story in the miscellaneous forum. Is that so hard to figure out? Is the word "miscellaneous" too long, too hard to spell, too far down the page? The story talks about a fishing trip the accused went on too. Maybe you should have put it in the fishing forum? Jesus Christ simple is hard on some people. Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor | |||
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.......and stupid is forever. Since you don't pay my bills, and probably couldn't, AND are NOT a forum monitor, AND since this is a thread that I found related to American hunting, admittedly tangentially, I put it where I wanted it. If a monitor finds it to be objectionable, then they can move it. Until then, you can go attempt to have sex with a flying donut and quit whining like a little bitch. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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got those panties wound pretty tight. I'd hate to see how mad you get over something that actually mattered. Birmingham, Al | |||
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I'm from Wisconsin, don't know the guy, but still found it interesting enough to read through the whole article... Thanks for posting. Shoot straight, shoot often. Matt | |||
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Far from mad, sorry. Just get tired of morons like Gat. Got himself kicked out of the political forum, and since that forum was his main purpose in life, likes to spew bullshit as far and wide as possible. He means nothing to me, but he probably should get a life. And I've seen him post in the "miscellaneous forum" before, so I know he knows where it is. Just one of those mysteries of life I guess. Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor | |||
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All this is so very sad ... I met a lawyer one time. His wife had invited us over for supper. He told me of defending some guy who raped a lady. He said that he got her on the witness stand and badgered and harangued her hour after hour until she broke down and could not continue anymore and he won the case. He thought that I ( a stranger) would be impressed by how clever he was .. destroying the lady .. I thought that he was a low life son of a bitch! | |||
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He sounds like a wonderful human being. | |||
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Times change. I'm sure there are many among us that have loosened a probably/possibly willing female date up with alcohol. Today, in many locales, doing that to the point where she could not give informed consent would be rape. Of course, the slippery slope is, what defines "informed" consent and, at least in some cases, after the affair has ended, the lady might decide she was not "informed". As the father of a son and two daughters, this topic has been discussed in our family. Besides the obvious of alcohol, the widespread use of "date rape" drugs is a real problem and has been for years. Check out the Bill Crosby cases. I have stressed that my girls, in particular, should use extreme caution at parties, with dates, etc. In this particular case, and without being an attorney, and especially an Alabama attorney, it appears that the individual was not technically guilty of rape under current Alabama law because of her lack of resistance. I don't live there, but this should be changed IMO. AFA the above defense attorney, he might come across as a scum bag, and he may well be, but he was doing his job under the American system of justice. Like it or not, he did the right thing for his client. Not knowing any details of case, I will say no more about it. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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It is odd that you think that Gatogodo is the one who needs to "get a life". It seems that you have followed him here to attack him on his thread due to your dislike of him/his political views. I know if I dislike a certain forum member I don't open threads they start. Others place the members they don't like on "ignore". It makes this place much more enjoyable. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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My daughter just turned 8 years-old but after reading the article you posted I had a talk with her about safety. I used our fishing trips in Alaska as a metaphor. Basically, I asked her if she would walk through the Alaskan bush without a gun or bear spray(she has seen brown bears up close). She said, "no, that would be like asking for trouble!" I then discussed how drinking alcohol can be like putting on a blindfold and puts you at far greater risk. We then talked about how it is impossible to tell which bears are "good bears" and which bears are "bad bears" and how people are no different. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Good work, Jason. Kids grow up sooner and, in some cases, harder than when I was young. Not to belittle the topic, but I hear people worry about their darlings, of both sexes, cussing. They had better be worried about them doing it instead of using the words. We're in the middle of the Texas Bible Belt and every year, at least one upstanding young girl graduates while pregnant or already having a baby, and this is in a very small school. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Exactly. | |||
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While Gato and I really do not get along/hate each other, I believe he was right in posting the information. As he said and as I have said, don't like what is posted or the responses, don't read them or put people on ignore. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Well, it's Saeed's house, so fine, whatever. Why even have forum categories at all? Seriously? A serious question I ask of Saeed directly. You build this website (thank you for that), you go to all the trouble to put in CATEGORIES for forum topics, and then folks just put crap all over where they feel like it willy-nilly, and respond with "don't read it" when you question it. But it's your house Saeed, run it how you want. JBrown, I didn't "follow" Gat here at all. I NEVER dip my toe into the cesspool that is the political forum. Never. Not one time. Full of small children behaving badly. But that is what that venue is for, so small children can go there and get their rocks off behaving badly. It keeps them out of the "big kids" section of the pool. I come to the "American Big Game Hunting Forums" only occasionally, to hear about American big game hunting. I know that probably shocks the hell out of you, but it's the truth. I don't "hate" Gat. That's laughable. He has less importance in my world than the lint fibers that are currently clinging to the front of my computer monitor. He also has zero power over me to make me "mad", or "irritated" as Crazy suggests. He is just random bits of 1's and 0's on the other end of the interwebs. Pocket lint is more important. I asked the question why in the hell this topic was put in the American Big Game Hunting forum, and was promptly told not to open it and read it, or to put the OP on ignore. I was also called stupid when I pointed out that there is another forum more suited to a "story" of this nature. I have been here 11 years. I have just over 1000 posts, makes 95 posts a year, and an average of .25 posts a day. Gat has been here 16 years, and has just over 16000 posts. That comes to roughly 1000 posts a year and 2.75 posts a day. Yeah, and I'M the one that needs to get a life. Now, if you GENTLEMEN, and Gat, will excuse me, I have LIFE to get on with, and there's this thing called OUTDOORS that is calling to me. Have fun with your interwebs. Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor | |||
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If this discussion was that unimportant to you, why did you get involved????? Why does the number of posts another member has made bother YOU or anyone else so much???? Care to answer that?? Too damn many people on sites like this, pay WAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION to the number of posts other people make! I am not defending Gato or myself, I am stating FACTS! Some folks are more OPINIONATED than others, not one damn thing in the Constitution or the rules of this site says that people cannot have their own opinions or puts ANY limit on their expressing those opinions! I notice that you joined just a few months after me, and unless things changed between March and August, I do not remember ANY wording specifying that a member is REQUIRED to read every/any post and/or reply to it. Sorry that you are having such a hard time understanding that any/each of us can make a post or a response to an issue that may not set well with others, but that os the way things are. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Exactly CHC! What a bunch of BS over absolutely nothing! Either put the SOB on ignore or when you see something that you don't want to read, especially with his name on it, then skip it and move on with life. It's dicks like you that create havoc on a Forum and cause people to leave because they get tired of all the crap like this that get going over nothing!!! | |||
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I don't believe you. Your rant is one of the more pathetic ones I've seen on here. Congratulations. | |||
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I thought I would post this because a lot of times in "American Big Hunting" we are usually consuming some form of oil to get to our hunt unless you would use a Tesla or NG. If I'm a little off topic and offended please ignore. Gartman: "The Time Has Come To Be Short Of Oil Once Again" When we pointed out yesterday that "world-renowned commodity guru" Dennis Gartman remained bearish of oil, we quoted him as saying that "it has been our intention all along to await the opportunity to sell crude oil short on protracted rally and we are getting that rally as we write. We can be patient a while longer." His patience lasted less than 24 hours, because one day later - as oil is on the cusp of extending its bullish run for a near record 9th consecutive day - Gartman this morning that "the time then has come to be short of crude oil once again." The section of note: CRUDE OIL PRICES CONTINUE TO ADVANCE and have now risen for 8 or 9 days in a row, depending upon when one has marked the close. Going by the CME’s official closes, yesterday was the 8th day in row higher and the “bounce” from the lows made two weeks ago amidst what was then panic liquidation has now taken the market to an almost equally over-bought, hyper-extended level to the upside. We have maintained that the “bounce” would take crude back to The Box marking the 50-62% retracement in nearby WTI crude to somewhere between $47.00-$48.15 and for all intents that was satisfied yesterday when the high of $47.07. Note then the chart of nearby August WTI and note The Box. The time then has come to be short of crude oil once again, and we are certain that we shall be at least as equally scoffed at for selling crude today as we were two weeks ago for urging everyone, everywhere not to be short. This recent increase has, of course, re-ignited the interest of drillers to drill and the contango is still wide enough to encourage drilling and hedging as the one year forward is very nearly $50/barrel. It is probably just a coincidence that earlier this morning WTI was in the red and has since crept up back into positive territory. Zim 2006 Zim 2007 Namibia 2013 Brown Bear Togiak Nat'l Refuge Sep 2010 Argentina 2019 RSA 2023 Tanzania 2024 SCI Life Member USMC | |||
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RAR60, now you are just being stupid. Got ate up with the dumbass did you? Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Not at all, I just thought it's as relevant as what this post is all about! To my point! Zim 2006 Zim 2007 Namibia 2013 Brown Bear Togiak Nat'l Refuge Sep 2010 Argentina 2019 RSA 2023 Tanzania 2024 SCI Life Member USMC | |||
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Nothing like reading of the long time little boy posters on AR getting into a pissing match on AR. Reminds me of two 8 year old kids arguing about who has the most army men in their sand box! Sometimes AR is better than going to a $10 movie! | |||
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What is the difference between being a dumbass and a dickhead???????? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Sometimes on AR it's very hard to tell the difference between the two. Particularly for the long time posters! | |||
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And just exactly who forced you to read the comments????????? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Now now little boy - act your age! It's an open forum. | |||
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