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Originally posted by just-a-hunter:
Judge Todd here.

I want to ask KSTEPHENS a couple of questions.

Would you turn somebody in for speeding?

Would you turn somebody in for running a person over at a cross walk, and then the person runs away?

What do you think an officer of the law would charge you with for withholding information on the aformentioned offences?

What are your moral standings with these questions?

Please share your point of view on a few more questions.

If a full grown man was driving to his stand and happened to see a 180" 12 pointer from his truck, jumped out real quick, rested on his knee and shot it, and the law states you have to be 10 yards off the side of the road; Would you turn in this person?

Would your answer change if it was a 10 year old child?

If a full grown man was poaching, would you turn him in (My defenition as with most people of poaching is a person shoots deer the person didn't have a tag for)?

Would your answer change if it was a 10 year old child?

What is your ethical standings on these two questions?

Todd

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Okay, I got sort of tired of this , so I contacted the Arkansas Game and Fish Commision.

Here is what they sent me.

Briana Miller
Arkansas Game & Fish Commission
Enforcement Division
501-223-6401


03.06 POSSESSION OF IMPROPER LICENSE.
It shall be unlawful to possess any license, permit, tag or stamp issued
by the Commission to any other person.
PENALTY: $100.00 to $1,000.00.

03.07 LENDING LICENSE PROHIBITED. It shall be unlawful to lend any
license, permit, tag or stamp issued by the Commission to any other
person.
PENALTY: $100.00 to $1,000.00.

03.08 COUNTERFEITING LICENSE PROHIBITED. It shall be unlawful to
counterfeit any license, permit, tag or stamp issued by the Commission;
or to collect funds for any license, permit, tag or stamp by an
unauthorized person; or to obtain
by false application any license, permit, tag, stamp or hunter education
or boater education certificate issued by the Commission.
PENALTY: $100.00 to $1,000.00.
*A jail sentence for a period of up to 90 days may be imposed.*

03.09 BACKDATING OR ALTERING LICENSE PROHIBITED. It shall be unlawful
for any person (including License Dealers) to backdate or alter any
license, permit or tag issued by the Commission or to possess any
license, permit, tag or stamp issued by the Commission that has been
altered.
PENALTY: $100.00 to $1,000.00.

03.10 FALSIFYING INFORMATION PROHIBITED. It shall be unlawful to
knowingly furnish, record or cause to be recorded any false information
on any form, license, stamp, permit, affidavit or application furnished
or used by the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission.
PENALTY: $100.000 to $1,000.00


Kim Cartwright
Information Officer
Arkansas Game and Fish Commision

So it appears that KStephens has a WHOLE DIFFERENT concept of ethics, and lawful behavior.

It also appears that he feels that his ethics allow him to operate outside legal rules and regulations.

He also appears to feels it is perfectly okay for him to bad mouth folks that do things that are completely legal, because what they are doing, does not mesh with his concept of ethics.

I really hope that one of these days an Arkansas GW catches him and nails his ass to the barn wall.

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i'd rather hunt w/ someone who didnt hunt over bait or inside pens than w/ someone who cared whos tag was on a deer after it was dead.

quote:

Originally posted by jb:
I must have missed something? to what unlawful behavior are you refering to?

quote:

Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
...i have said publicly that i have used a family members tag.

quote:

Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
poach·ing
–noun 1. the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.
2. any encroachment on another's property, rights, ideas, or the like.

[Origin: 1605–15; poach1 + -ing1]

hunting without a licence or party hunting is what you are talking about I think.

quote:

I must have missed something? to what unlawful behavior are you refering to?

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
[what is your opinion of someone that openly admits to doing something that is legally wrong, yet sets around questioning other peoples ethics, even though what they are doing is legal?

quote:

Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
glad to have given you boys something to talk about.
Crazyhorseconsulting, your a hoot. let em know how much that call cost you and ill donate the same amout to the NRA in your name, what a riot. calling ARFAG.
you need to get cable. or read a book.
anyways, im sure you fellas dont have anything better to do. Sad, its still season here and i still have a few deer to kill.
I have had a ball. but i got to say this and i hope i DO hurt some feelings.
Some of you are pathetics. do you not understand that this isnt reality. this is a forum thread. hello, mcfly?
If i posted that i killed babies and drunk thier blood you guys would be calling the cops. you a riot. gullibale bunch for sure.
Look SFB's. Im not taking back anything iv said, but just to let you know, sometimes people say thing to intentionally any you fish are all to happy to take the worm.
how much time have you wasted. CHC actually call ARFGed !!! hillarious.
Get a life for christ sake.
If you spent the same amount of time focusing on you woman that you spend focusing on me....
never mind.

Anyways, thanks for the entertainment.

nerds,

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Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
...tags get filled. is it different who pulls the trigger? me or dad? theres only 6 tags. he flies and has no intention of killing more than 2 deer.
i drive and can pack alot more out. so i put my first deer on his tag.

quote:

03.10 FALSIFYING INFORMATION PROHIBITED. It shall be unlawful to
knowingly furnish, record or cause to be recorded any false information
on any form, license, stamp, permit, affidavit or application furnished
or used by the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission.
PENALTY: $100.000 to $1,000.00

quote:

Crazyhorseconsulting, your a hoot. let em know how much that call cost you and ill donate the same amout to the NRA in your name, what a riot. calling ARFAG.

quote:

If you spent the same amount of time focusing on you woman that you spend focusing on me....

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Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
WOW!
differences abound.
I joined a Arkansas hunting board to get rut info for when i hunt that area. i join in and post every once in a while. It amazes me what some people see as "ethical" behavior.
Now some people have argued w/ me here over ethics becasue i have said publicly that i have used a family members tag.
I got blasted over at the AR forum for saying that if a man shot a deer and found solid blood but didnt recover the deer or recovered it days later he should burn the tag.
I got totally blasted from these guys.
Now i almost got booted off the site for suggesting that shooting deer from inside a truck cab was unethical.
a hunter decided since the weather wasnt to his liking he would pull his truck out onto the field and use it as a blind.
in Arkansas as long as the truck isnt in motion its legal.
any way i thought i'd link you to the thread i just started about ethics. it should be a real riot.
enjoy
ethics thread on Arkansas forum

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By 30-378

One thing you must understand. When you start telling or suggesting to others how they are to live their lives coupled with absolutely no authority to do so and hanging your opinion out on the internet, you are going to catch a little heat.

Every action does not require reaction!!!!!!!!
Sometimes silence is bliss.

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

quote:

Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
glad to have given you boys something to talk about.
Crazyhorseconsulting, your a hoot. let em know how much that call cost you and ill donate the same amout to the NRA in your name, what a riot. calling ARFAG.
you need to get cable. or read a book.
anyways, im sure you fellas dont have anything better to do. Sad, its still season here and i still have a few deer to kill.
I have had a ball. but i got to say this and i hope i DO hurt some feelings.
Some of you are pathetics. do you not understand that this isnt reality. this is a forum thread. hello, mcfly?
If i posted that i killed babies and drunk thier blood you guys would be calling the cops. you a riot. gullibale bunch for sure.
Look SFB's. Im not taking back anything iv said, but just to let you know, sometimes people say thing to intentionally any you fish are all to happy to take the worm.
how much time have you wasted. CHC actually call ARFGed !!! hillarious.
Get a life for christ sake.
If you spent the same amount of time focusing on you woman that you spend focusing on me....
never mind.

Anyways, thanks for the entertainment.

nerds,

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith