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What an arrogant worthless asshole

Mr. Hawg! I am surprised at your frankness!

In this world of political correctness, that comment is a little harsh. Maybe an "Over knowledgeble,low value,poopy head"!

He isn't the only one! The list is long, they do what they do for one thing and one thing only, M-O-N-E-Y! With a little arrogance and macho bravado, for the big kill thrown in! His show and others are not about hunting!

Sometimes political correctness trips and falls (or is pushed) into it's own shit (poop) and the only reasonable way out is to momentarily be tactfully unpolitically correct.

I don't think Nugent is a detriment to hunting or gun ownership. Yes, he is a bit kooky, but who isn't in the eyes of others. He makes some good shots on game, shoots a compound instinctive, and last I saw, did not use a release. Plus, he hates France and went to Iraq with Toby Keith to entertain the troupes. Thats pretty cool in my book.

You don't see wackos like Tom (I believe in a made up joke of a religion) Cruise, John (I believe in ElRonHubbards made up B#$L SH$%) Travolta, George (DOOFASS) cLooney or Oprah (Let me tout these wackos on my SH%^TY SHOW) doing any good like that.

Barta is a bonfied freako, but being a recurve shooter, I have watched a handful of his shows, hoping that eventually he would shape up, it sure hasn't happened. Is he mad at someone, does he have short stick syndrome? I don't know, but he always seems so angry. Who sponsors this guy anyway? I FF'd through the commercials and didn't get who the sponsors were. I am going to boycott them since barta is such a jackass. His hunting and shooting style is about as pure as week old doodoo.

I am not fond of Tom Miranda's show either. Did he go to journalism school? Because I really don't like the newsman sound of his voice, nor his orgasmic hoopin and holerin when he smacks something. Oh yeah baby, oh yeah who hah, what a buck, what a buck. You would think he had never arrowed a deer before. It makes me want to upchuck.

How about Jackie Bushmaster?. I saw one mule deer episode where I swear he shot a two for one, who knows, but something wasn't quite right and the outfitters expression showed it. He is always waiting for a much higher percentage shot on a smaller buck. The narrator goes on with this excuse until JB can put the wallop on a 2.5 year old buck.

Then we have the great spoiled brat Richie Rich and his wonderful world of hunting. Jetting around the country with his rich oily buddies, throwing hissy fits when things don't go his way, cussing people he assumes to be below him. You won't see it on the video, but it happens.

What about Shockey's Show? He hunts a variety of game with a BP, is a guide, I like his show, and he seems to be a down to earth knowlegeable individual, but I do not know him. His wife is a real looker too. The Eastman show is pretty good too, they seem normal. I met Jim Zumbo, he was about a foot and half shorter than me, but a really nice guy. I like his show too.

First show Tred Barta's show when he was fishing. I thought he was entertaining (in the funny sense) but he had a huge ego problem. Then I saw him hunting and decided he is just plain dangerous.

Whiteeye...

Who is "Richie Rich" and his "oily buddys"? What kind of hunting show has "oily buddys" and what do they do?

Perry

Perry..........
You know, that dude that looks like Richie Rich from the cartoon. I can't think of his real name off hand. They hunt and fish and talk, it is a hunting/fishing/talking show. I am not sure what else they do in their private time.
Whiteeye...............

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Sometimes political correctness trips and falls (or is pushed) into it's own shit (poop) and the only reasonable way out is to momentarily be tactfully unpolitically correct.

They all suck soap water as far as I am concerned! Just another angle to make a buck, can't fault them for that, but none do hunting any real justice!

I have seen several of the episodes of "Tred", including both fishing and hunting. If you haven't seen an episode, you should know that the beginning of each "Tred" episode begins with a little self-narrative from Tred himself basically telling all that he's an arrogant S.O.B. and that he does things HIS way - fair warning if you ask me. Having lived and worked out on Long Island (NY) for 4 years (Tred is from eastern L.I.), I don't really find his attitude much different than some locals I met down there.

Say what you want, but I think that the hunting episodes are more realistic than your average episode of Bushmasters - how often do you see ole Jackie goin' home empty-handed or missing or wounding his quarry (while hunting for free on a managed ranch)? Besides, I watch for entertainment, and find it 100% better than bullriding or cycling that seems to have taken over OLN.

Offended as you may be, a few people boycotting the show won't mean squat - but I'd be willing to bet that few if any viewers were so offended that they actually wrote to the show producers or OLN or whomever to voice their displeasure.

Erict... Good point on Tred's opening disclaimer about the "Tred Way". I still don't accept his poor marksmanship and decision making.

By the way, did anyone see tonight's episode of CSI Miami? Now that was a cool show!

Tred should open his show by telling everyone " I am a Jackass and I make poor hunting decisions, my way is just plain stupid but thats how I do it" instead of "I am arrogant and do things my way", which is the wrong way.

I can't imagine what a young hunter would think about this guy flinging arrows like he is defending Gondor or something. His show is a lesson in what not to do.

Jackie shooting immature bucks IS far more entertaining than bullriding and cycling. However, I would much rather watch that show with the three chicks hunting and fishing and trying to dominate mens sports in bikinis.

The show with the three hot chicks is called Crossing Country, and those girl's may not know everything, but they are out there trying and enjoying it. They were decent rifle shots for novice's on the show that I saw. I had some qualms about letting them go hunt so quickly, but as far as sweet and outgoing outdoorsy type girls...they are pretty good....did I mention they are fine? Being 25 myself I'd love to be able to write them a letter

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Originally posted by Seacliff:

I am not an active bow hunter, although I have killed a wild hog or 2 with a bow and wounded a couple too. If I was using a gun, those wounded hogs would have been killed. And maybe one or both of those wounded hogs didn't die a horrible lingering death but rather survived. And even if the hogs died, wouldn't it be better for them to be recycled back into nature rather than to be feeding me?

I guess what I am trying to address is what is ethical hunting? Is it it more ethical to limit out on ducks with a 10 gauge or to try and hit one with an arrow.

Is it more ethical to use a .338 with scope and rangefinder or to use lever gun with iron sights?

If you were a duck or a hog or a deer or a bear, would you rather be hunted by a hunter with a bow, pistol, muzzleloader, shotgun or high powered scoped rifle with rangefinder? I know which one I would choose.

Now it may not look good to see a hunter wound or miss an animal, but it happens regardless of what hunting tool one uses.

Hunters like to talk about tradition. Well the tradition is in bows and muzzleloaders and iron sighted rifles.

Animals haven't any new technology to avoid us, but we keep coming up with more efficient rifles, ammunition, etc. to kill them. We justify it by proclaiming how humane we are.

Do I use a scoped rifle? You bet. I'm not going to travel far, spend a lot of money and not kill anything.

Do I appreciate Mr Barta's efforts to kill something with his homemade arrows. You bet.

I use a 10 Gauge on Ducks and Geese, and Know What??? Its a quick way to kill them. I also use a .300 Win Mag on Anything from Steenbock to Elk, and know what?? That kills them damn quick. I use a .340 Weatherby on Moose and Bear, and know what??? That kills them quick to.

Ethics is giving an animal a quick death. Not letting them suffer such as fags like MS do. If you shoot sticks make sure you know your shot.

I wounded ONE deer when I was archery hunting. I haven't shot a bow since. Not because I didn't like it, but because I knew I made an animal suffer that I could have given a quick clean death with a rifle. I will archery hunt again one of these days when I get the bad taste out of my mouth, but it hasn't happened yet. I don't know how a guy like Tred Barta can get over wounding so many animals. Maybe he needs someone to help him pull his head out of his ass...Or maybe he has one of his "homemade arrows" already stuck up there.

Sierrabravo45


I couldn't agree more that every animal deserves as quick and as clean a death as possible. And any wounded animal should count towards the bag limit. And I'm not trying to defend any sloppy hunting.

The point I am trying to make is the traditional bow, tradition muzzleloader, or ironsighted rifle is less precise and less efficient in the hunting of game. And up until the last hundred years or so, these have been the tools used. Because they are less precise, a hunter is more likely to miss or wound an animal.

This gives the animal a chance to escape which it doesn't have when hunted with modern weapons. For instance, If I was an animal, I would much rather be hunted by Tred Barta than by you.

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Originally posted by Stoked_C:
The show with the three hot chicks is called Crossing Country, and those girl's may not know everything, but they are out there trying and enjoying it. They were decent rifle shots for novice's on the show that I saw. I had some qualms about letting them go hunt so quickly, but as far as sweet and outgoing outdoorsy type girls...they are pretty good....did I mention they are fine? Being 25 myself I'd love to be able to write them a letter

Better yet, send them a package.