I've always sorta hated the guy, but this afternoon I watched his Newfoundland caribou hunt. I lost count of the number of shots he missed, mostly by several FEET. Several shots were 40+ yards, even though he insists he must always be within 20 yards with his longbow. Then he had the nerve to take a long shot at a RUNNING bull. I guess the wounded animals won't be running around in his backyard, so he must not care. What a fuck. I saw an episode last year where he shot at multiple mule deer and eventually wounded one. At first I was impressed that he was man enough to admit that wounding loss happens, but now, I fear that it happens with him all the time. What an arrogant worthless asshole.

I agree and apparently so do the guides that are with him. One of the elk episodes, I thought the guide was going to throw him off the mountain. The guy is a tool that is doing almost as much damage to the sport as Nugent.

I watched his show once and he was fishing with his son who, I'm guessing, was about 12 years old. The kid was getting bleeped for cursing about as often as the father. I knew immediately that this was not a guy I wanted to watch, and I hate it that he is seen as a spokesperson for hunters.

I agree, Tred Barta is like most others guys with hunting shows, full of himself and contradictions. But, have you ever wounded and animal with a firearm?

I cannot stand the guy. He is a blooming idiot. Television apparently likes the reality show image. Problem is "television and reality" is an oxy-moron beyond belief.

I can deal with Tred on most occassions as he goes to some beautiful country and the photography on his show is usually pretty good! I have had my doubts about his ethics on a couple of occassions as well.
But I have not publicly complained til now.
Mr. Barta came to Montana (as depicted on a recent TV show) and flung arrows into the sky at Ducks - until I was NAUSEOUS!
Now I used to be a world class Duck Hunting "enthusiast" when I was a young man and it was all I lived for. For the last 30 years or so I have cooled on waterfowl Hunting to the point I only go Goose and Duck Hunting 3 or 4 times a fall!
But the blatant disregard of Mr. Barta to sling ineffective arrow after ineffective arrow into flocks of Mallards really turned me off - I can only imagine what a non-Hunter or anti-Hunter might think of this performance by Mr. Barta.
I am also an archery Hunter and an archery Hunting advocate. But the disregard Mr. Barta shows for the clean harvesting of these waterfowl sickened me!
If he wants Mallards he should use a much more effective and humane means of harvesting them - say a shotgun!
I shudder to think how many Ducks Mr. Barta wounded and wasted that day (and over the years he says he has Hunted this way!).
Inexcusable.
I suggest Mr. Barta stick to certain ranges for his archery endeavors and to fire his arrows only at stationary or very slow moving game! Flying Mallards DO NOT constitute appropriate game that any REAL sportsman would try to harvest with a long bow!
I agree, some of his ego driven endeavors have left me questioning his motivations in the past!
So be that.
But this Mallard archery Hunt was to much to bear.
Sportmanship should trump ego in every case (understand gorge!) - this will serve the sport Hunting fraternity well in the future!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

If everyone hates this guy, how come he still has a show? He claims to be the best offshore fisherman in the world. More Big Eye Charlies than anyone that ever lived. I hunt with my longbow and take 100 yard shots on woodland caribou, be it bull, cow or calf. Ted Tred whatever, is a jackass. Lets see him last a week hauling in king crabs in Alaska. Some TV shows are credible, but some aren't. That spoiled 50+ year old brat Richie Rich and his wonderful world of hunting comes to mind.

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Originally posted by MrHawg:
I've always sorta hated the guy, but this afternoon I watched his Newfoundland caribou hunt. I lost count of the number of shots he missed, mostly by several FEET. Several shots were 40+ yards, even though he insists he must always be within 20 yards with his longbow. Then he had the nerve to take a long shot at a RUNNING bull. I guess the wounded animals won't be running around in his backyard, so he must not care. What a fuck. I saw an episode last year where he shot at multiple mule deer and eventually wounded one. At first I was impressed that he was man enough to admit that wounding loss happens, but now, I fear that it happens with him all the time. What an arrogant worthless asshole.

Consider the even worse shots that probably got taped and "wound up on the cutting room floor" so to speak...

Be afraid...

AllanD

I saw the preview for that caribou hunting show of his and it showed him flinging an arrow from a long ways off....I thought maybe I was just seeing things since it was a quick clip of the show. I guess I was wrong.

It would be nice to have some better "role models" on many of these hunting shows. For the most part, all of those guys are a bunch of slobs.

MG

I can't watch any of the shows any more. To geared for the kill,to many sponsers, I canceld the programming!

I tried, I really did to watch the show a few times. He takes unethical shots and makes and a$$ out of himself. I think the best way to get rid of a so called Celeb like him, is to not watch the show.

I got the same sick feeling when I watched his first show hunting mulies with his longbow. He launched (read launched, as he flung arrows at every opportunity) something like 28 arrows, and he was proud to say that! A guy like this should not have a tv show, this is just fuel for the anti-hunters, and it should be, this is not ethical hunting.

Also, why does this guy have a show in the first place? Didn't he just pick up hunting a few years ago to make him feel more masculine or "in tune with nature" or something to that extent? Stick to fishing.

I stopped watching hunting shows and videos. I prefer non-fiction.

He should be on Comedy Central. Hey, Tred, here's your sign.....

I think that hunting shows have done far more harm than good for the sport of hunting. I myself watch them only occasionally, so I can't speak for all of them, but they generally seem to feature some arrogant prick who thinks he is God's gift to hunting or fishing and is only focused on the kill. There is so much more to hunting than killing the critter with the biggest rack from the farthest distance. I have seen so many poor shots on these shows (archery and rifle) that I have to wonder how many misses these clowns have before they actually hit anything. Once again, hunters are shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to the PR battle. If so many of us feel this way about how hunting is represented on TV, imagine how it's being perceived by non-hunters. I for one don't want to be associated with Barta and the likes of him. What a dipshit!

I also think he is a tool.



EQUALS

Well now this is an interesting thread. I won't watch his show either. I find the guys TV persona to be that of an arrogant jerk. Suppose he is really such an ass in real life?

I confess I never heard of this guy much less watch his show or shows. If he is the total ass it sounds like he is how did he become such a media personality? Who watches him and why?

At first I enjoyed watching him because he was different, and somewhat funny. But the more I watched, the more respect I lost for him. This last episode was the icing on the cake for me. I have a feeling many others have similar feelings. Those who don't see the poor judgement and ethics in him probably love the show. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if some day his ego and dumbass stunts get him killed. He'd fit right in with the Grizzly Man as far as my respect goes.

He is in the same business as I am, and he is quite infamous.

I cannot believe he can find sponsors for his "show" or an audience that will watch it. Not me, he's a disgrace to the sporting world!

Is this a true/false question? TRUE!!!

I watch some hunting shows. I haven't seen this character tht you're all talking about.

Ted Nugent can be annoying with his statements like "backstraps" and "the beast is dead, long live the beast". It seems to be that he's acting alot more than he's being sincere. He appears to be a pretty decent hunter though.

The Texas Whitetail Journal (I think that's what it's called) is a pretty decent, IMO. Good personal stories.

But for those of you who complain about the ads and what products are being pushed by the hosts: well, that's what pays for the show. You don't think guys like Tom Miranda or Bill Jordan can afford to put on a show without sponsorship, now do you? Well... they have to push the product of the company that's paying for the production cost of the show. That's waht all TV and radio is all about: sponsorship.

BTW... I don't like Jordan or Miranda either. Miranda is especially annoying. He does an absolutely horrible job of acting. Why do some of these hosts feel they have to act or get so overly dramatic? Just be yourselves.

Let the flames begin. Everyone around here that I know thinks he is a jackass but we also think the show is entertaining.

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Ted Nugent can be annoying with his statements like "backstraps"

I didnt know "backstraps" was a derogatory term. It is the term I use to describe the meat on either side of the spine.

As far as Barta-I watched him twice, almost made me throw up. One episode had him shooting at whitetail doe, shot about six deer, wounded several before he finally put one dowm. The other episode was the "pig sticking" episode.

I agree Nugent and Barta are a couple of MORONS. They make us all look bad. We should get together and censure these two lunatics.

Ackley, I definately agree with you on Barta, but what specifically don't you like about Nugent?

Now, his reality shows aren't my cup of tea either, but his show is much better than Tred's, and the work he has done to promote hunting, he is probably one of the biggest influences on the non-hunting public. I agree that he is very eccentric on his shows, and is no where near "normal", and maybe its just that I'm from Michigan and love rock'n'roll, but I can't help but like the guy. I even met him last year and heard him speak to a crowd for a while. He speaks what he believes and apologizes to no one for it. I think that's commendable.

Well guys,
I've got to weigh in on Barta, Mr. Hunter with attitude. That is his entertainment pitch. I have to relate this story from his two part "season opener" last year. He was hunting grizzly out of Bella Coola with his longbow. Over the length of the hunt he could never connect, either blown stalks, no closing distance, wind change, weather, whatever. It's hunting, right? However, through the course of the show he became more dispondent over his failure to "git er done" the right way with the longbow and not a rifle. Hunting grizz with a longbow isn't a problem either, right? There was much wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth, and obvious concern by the outfitter guide to produce for the camera man for the sake of his hunting business. Can't blame the guy there, right? Well, if you catch this rerun sometime, one of you guys tell me how it is that on the last day of a wildnerness hunt he finally connects with a long legged grizzly walking down the middle of a logging track, obviously close to town somewhere. Maybe it was the road to the dump or the Dairy Queen. I suspect Mr Outfitter laid awake nights before he finally thought about a sure enough "spot" to "git er done." This bear surely had a name from the local school kids, like Brownie or Muffy or something cute. At any rate, I'll give the guy his due for sticking this bear in the slats at about 10 yards. Old Tred was concealed in the barrow pit brush. That's not a problem either, right? BUT the real insult and the saddest commentary after all the tears of joy and backslapping is that old Tred is credited at the end of the show as being the first man in modern history to have taken a grizzly with a longbow. EXCUSE ME, what about Howard Hill, Saxton Pope, Art Young, Fred Bear (do recurves count?), E. Donnell Thomas, maybe Ben Pearson, and some others I can't recall at the moment. That ribald lie is inexcusable, but people keep buying the products that Tred and others on that channel have BIG SPONSORS for. We're preaching to the choir here. If any of us don't like these dilrods on the Outdoor channel this use this wonderful Internet to contact these companies. Consumers do have power. Nuff said!!!

Chromosone Cowboy - I never said "backstraps" was derogatory and I know what they are and what Nugent is refering to.

All I'm saying is that Nugent annoys me when he says it. That's all.

Monty Browning, one of the good guys and a postman from South Carolina, killed the below bear well before Barta.

I find it interesting that most hunting gurus get mixed reviews here at worse. Barta is almost universally savaged. I guess that says something important about his shows.



BTW, Monty's bear was the P&Y no.1 at the time. He had a great picture of a black bear skull of decent size completely inside the mouth of his trophy.

I've heard Monty tell the story and if memory serves me right, he killed the bear while hunting along a stream bank at a distance of only 7 yards. Wow! Monty double-lunged the bear and it only went up the far creek bank and died within 50 yards with no back up rifle shot needed.

Monty uses fish arrows that weigh 1000 grains with traditional broadheads to insure penetration. He's taken Cape Buffalo, too.

Did anyone catch the episod of his duck hunt? I have DVR so I rewatched the shot in slow motion and I think his duck kill is a mistake. It appears he is shooting at another duck and the one in a zillion happens, he hits a duck behind the one he is leading. Camera angles, lighting, etc.. I could be wrong. I wouldn't have even stopped on the show but I read this thread the other night and then there he is.

Perry

I didn't tape it but that was my thought too, that he was shooting at the closer duck.

DJR

Wow, that's going to new heights of technology (and stupidity) to trash a fellow out. You watch his shows and then rewatch them in slow motion. I think yo need to get a life. And a visectomy.
I don't watch any outdoors shows because any time I have off, I am........... outdoors.
I don't like Fat-assed Rosy so I just don't watch her shows. I certainly won't watch them and then re-run them in slow motion no matter how much I disliked her and wanted to discredit her.
Can we spell jealousy????

Entertaining cause he almost stabbed the guides with his bowie while on a hog knife hunt. The hog turned, and he was running away flailing arms and knife right past the guide. They had to remind him to only take out his knife when he was about to poke something. What a fag.

Well someone needs to stick up for Mr Barta, so I guess it will have to be me. Now I have only seen parts of some of his shows so I'm not going to comment on his show. Also I don't know Tred so I can't say what he is like beyond his TV persona.

I am not an active bow hunter, although I have killed a wild hog or 2 with a bow and wounded a couple too. If I was using a gun, those wounded hogs would have been killed. And maybe one or both of those wounded hogs didn't die a horrible lingering death but rather survived. And even if the hogs died, wouldn't it be better for them to be recycled back into nature rather than to be feeding me?

I guess what I am trying to address is what is ethical hunting? Is it it more ethical to limit out on ducks with a 10 gauge or to try and hit one with an arrow.

Is it more ethical to use a .338 with scope and rangefinder or to use lever gun with iron sights?

If you were a duck or a hog or a deer or a bear, would you rather be hunted by a hunter with a bow, pistol, muzzleloader, shotgun or high powered scoped rifle with rangefinder? I know which one I would choose.

Now it may not look good to see a hunter wound or miss an animal, but it happens regardless of what hunting tool one uses.

Hunters like to talk about tradition. Well the tradition is in bows and muzzleloaders and iron sighted rifles.

Animals haven't any new technology to avoid us, but we keep coming up with more efficient rifles, ammunition, etc. to kill them. We justify it by proclaiming how humane we are.

Do I use a scoped rifle? You bet. I'm not going to travel far, spend a lot of money and not kill anything.

Do I appreciate Mr Barta's efforts to kill something with his homemade arrows. You bet.

Gibson, behavior 3 standard deviations from the mean is not good for any cause. For example, the lunatic left makes the Democrats look bad and the Bible-thumping theocrats make the Republicans look bad.

Everything in moderation - then we outdoorsmen don't appear threatening, but rather controlled and sane, and have much more political clout. Barta and Nugent come across as bizarre space cadets. Not good for us, in spite of what they advocate.

iwzbeeman,
I did not say I watch his show and then rewatched in slow motion. You just illustrated who the stupid one is.

Perry

The only show that I watched was STICK THE PIG AND GUIDE and that was the ONLY show I watched. Poor excuse for a hunter and human being to act like that.

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Originally posted by iwzbeeman:
Wow, that's going to new heights of technology (and stupidity) to trash a fellow out. You watch his shows and then rewatch them in slow motion. I think yo need to get a life. And a visectomy.
I don't watch any outdoors shows because any time I have off, I am........... outdoors.
I don't like Fat-assed Rosy so I just don't watch her shows. I certainly won't watch them and then re-run them in slow motion no matter how much I disliked her and wanted to discredit her.
Can we spell jealousy????

I'm with you on not watching these shows. Never seen the one in question. However, I have an irresistable compulsion to point out that you used a far more complex assembly of technology to rip on Perry when you were supposed to be outdoors. Can we spell hypocrisy?

Sorry to others; I don't mean to hi-jack this thread. I will add that Seacliff made some good points, but I'm still not thrilled about having Nugent be my spokesperson. Also, a slob hunter is just a slob hunter in my book, though accidents will happen to the best. Again, I don't know the guy and have not seen his program.

I am a little jealous that when I go afield I dont have my own song playing in the background singing that "Perry's the man".

Perry