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...the 100s of great meals.

Sirloin steak,red wine reduction sauce, roasted broccoli leaves, salad, and zinfandel.



Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Looks fantastic, but is just a little more rare than I care for.
 
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That is perfect!
Can't go wrong with 2 year old cows and spike bulls, they are my favorites. Eating the big Bulls not so much!
 
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To me the best part of cow elk hunting is the ability to drive right up to the carcass and load it without having to drag it a hundred yards or so uphill.


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ONLY 100 yards? Hell man, you're dreaming there!
7-10 miles is more like it out here. That's why we use horses.

I sure don't want any steak that's still bloody.
Does look like a fine cut of meat though IF it was cooked!

George


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If you rope burn my meat, you've gone too far!
 
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To me the best part of cow elk hunting is the ability to drive right up to the carcass and load it without having to drag it a hundred yards or so uphill.


You have that right! I’ve had long and short drags. I’ll take the short!
 
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I sure don't want any steak that's still bloody.
Does look like a fine cut of meat though IF it was cooked!


Maybe it's just my computer screen, but to me that meat looks to be cooked medium rare all the way through. I think the "blood" that you guys are seeing is Mike's red wine reduction sauce.

Looks like a fine meal to me!


Jason

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Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Obviously people have different preferences but cooking any type of venison beyond medium rare is just about the best way to ruin it in many people's opinion. Dries it out and makes it gamey.

I try to stay on the rare side of medium rare.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Obviously people have different preferences but cooking, but cooking any type of venison beyond medium rare is just about the best way to ruin it in many people's opinion. Dries it out and makes it gamey.

I try to stay on the rare side of medium rare.


It is very easy to dry wild game out and make it tough.
 
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I try to stay on the rare side of medium rare.


I agree, rare side of medium rare is juicy, tender and great flavor.
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Obviously people have different preferences but cooking any type of venison beyond medium rare is just about the best way to ruin it in many people's opinion. Dries it out and makes it gamey.


That is just exactly why Lora and I stopped giving folks deer and elk steaks and just give them ground deer meat.

They would cook it well done and then complain of it being too dry and tough.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



 
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Looks right to me. Makes the hard work of getting the animal out worth it.

Dave
 
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Originally posted by surefire7:
If you rope burn my meat, you've gone too far!


That reminds me when I was just getting into pheasant hunting with my Dad in the mid 50s and we stopped at a restaurant for brunch and the old Army Sergeant that was with us ordered steak and eggs. When the waitress asked him how he wanted his steak he said to just wipe it's ass and run it by him, LOL!
 
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Eating the big Bulls not so much!


That ol' sleepy bull that we killed a few years back was a dandy of a bull but he had to turn into burger after a couple meals.


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What is all that green crap on your plate? I know it ain't from an animal and even if it is I still don't want it.
 
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What is all that green crap on your plate? I know it ain't from an animal and even if it is I still don't want it.


LOL, as he said right in his post what was on the plate!
 
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For DPCD and other members of the great unwashed; the green salad on the left consists of spinach, kale, spring and red leaf lettuce, broccoli cauliflower, mushrooms, red and yellow peppers, in a olive, red wine vinegar, and shallot dressing.

The greens on the right are roasted broccoli leaves.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike, I'm with you--and most others--on doneness. Game is so flavorful when barely cooked. I have on occasion eaten a slice or two of tenderloin from elk, mulie, kudu and others right after it's hung up--I bet some of the AR crew have done the same.

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Mike, I'm with you--and most others--on doneness. Game is so flavorful when barely cooked. I have on occasion eaten a slice or two of tenderloin from elk, mulie, kudu and others right after it's hung up--I bet some of the AR crew have done the same.


For the past few years, I take the back straps and other cuts and treat them just like Sushi.

Cut it into thin slices, cover it with lemon juice/soy sauce and tabasco sauce and it is excellent.


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I am another fan of rare game meat; Mike's steak looks perfect to me.


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Looks delicious Mike! tu2


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Just a bit more done than I prefer, but I'd scarf it down without a complaint! That salad sounds pretty darn good too.

Mike, have you posted the recipe for your red wine reduction? It looks so tasty that I'd like to know your secret. Thanks.


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Looks like a damn fine meal Mike! Meat is cooked Perfectly.


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You can't get it any better than than that, cooked perfectly. The only thing I would have is a Scotch to round out the meal.
 
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Originally posted by georgeld:
ONLY 100 yards? Hell man, you're dreaming there!
7-10 miles is more like it out here. That's why we use horses.

I sure don't want any steak that's still bloody.
Does look like a fine cut of meat though IF it was cooked!

George


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Looks delicious!

Mike, I bet you are a good cook.


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That is a mighty fine looking meal.
I may be wrong, but the best part of cow elk hunting is being in the country where they live.
Yellow and orange aspen leaves twittering on the breeze the sound of wind through the pines (firs, etc).
The best way to live those times in the woods over and over is sitting on your plate and future plates . . .
Especially if some from the time in the woods are there to share.



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That's a meal fit for an hunting King!!!

When my wife and I married, 40+ years ago, she was repulsed with the RED meat on my plate and insisted that I cook her's way longer.

Nowadays, if it doesn't turn her potatoes red about 1/8" up from the plate, it's over-done! She's such a good girl!

Zeke
 
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When wild game is cooked, its right when a good vet can bring him back.


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When wild game is cooked, its right when a good vet can bring him back.


That is as accurate as it gets.


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