Saw this on the RMEF website. Thought it was worth a share for those who haven't seen it yet. Thought Mr. Allen wrote a very well said letter to Lamar advertising. Unfortunately I don't see these wolf huggers giving up any time soon.

http://rmefblog.blogspot.com/2...graphic-display.html

Look! They're sleeping. Very nice.

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Originally posted by Navaluk:
Look! They're sleeping. Very nice.

That is a funny post!

I got a "freedom of speech" letter from
Korby Palmer also.
And he's a rancher in S. Wy. WTF????

He may have a Ranch, I don't know, but I don't think he's a "rancher" as most people define it. But in any case I've worked for Lamar for about 20 years. It can be hit or miss as to what the company deems inappropriate to go on a billboard and is generally the decision of the General Manager of the given market. It usually depends how much noise is made. Personally I don't agree with the message but I don't like censorship either, it goes both ways.

Why don't they "adopt" a wolf and take it home for the weekend?
Turn it loose in their home to see just how "warm and fuzzy" it makes them feel?

I'm sure that would dissuade them from the "touchy-feely" attitude they currently have for these voracious and oftentimes "sport" killers.

I watched a video on YouTube I believe (I will see if I can post it) showing a pack of wolves chasing down and killing several deer.
After they killed three or four they tore them to pieces, ate a bit and left. Apparently they had their fill and on to the next.

Looks like 4 good wolves to me.

In the late 90's RMEF was just the opposite. One of the biggest proponents of reintroduction. Good to see them changing their ways.

I don't mean to nit-pick by why is the word "reintroduce" always used to describe these wolves? The wolves released in Yellowstone are a different (larger) species imported from Cananda and as such are an exotic, invasive species.

Well folks
After a FB, email and phone campaign
the wolf sign in Cody Wy. came down
this morning bout 10am.
It was up for 3 days...
Guess they found out that they won't be allowed
to float this kinda Chit around here.
Score 1 for the good guys!

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Originally posted by ravenr:
Well folks
After a FB, email and phone campaign
the wolf sign in Cody Wy. came down
this morning bout 10am.
It was up for 3 days...
Guess they found out that they won't be allowed
to float this kinda Chit around here.
Score 1 for the good guys!

I'll drink to that tonight

Freedom of speech is a two way street. Libs sort of hate that us gun-totin-meat eaters have a say too.

Score one for the Hunters.

Freedom of speech might be a two way street, but wildlife management should be left up to the folks that will be most impacted by, not people in New York City.

That's Bull Crazy. Lion management left with the Maasai? Might as well leave elk management to the hay farmers. Same result.

Say whatever you want to. If you do not live there and are not impacted by the presence of those animals on a daily basis, you should have 0 input as to their management.

Think whatever you want to, it is your prerogative, but the people having to deal with the effects of wolves on a daily basis are the ONLY ones that should have a say in the matter.

Not some greenie setting in his/her condo 1k or miles away in a city.

Just a question Navaluk, where do you live? I am gonna guess no where close to an area where there are wolves. If I am wrong, my mistake and I apologize, but from your response I have my doubts of you having to deal with wolves and the problems they cause on a daily basis.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
the people having to deal with the effects of wolves on a daily basis are the ONLY ones that should have a say in the matter.

Then why do you continue to comment??

If in fact the good people of Texas, and you, have recently become over-run with wolves, my mistake and I apologize.

Possibly because I have seen why so many folks in Montana/Wyoming/Idaho want to have some say so in wildlife management in their state as far as wolves are concerned, instead of greenies/tree huggers being allowed to help ram regulations concerning wolves down their throats.

Are you happy with the Feds coming in and telling you that you need wolves even though you don't?

Maybe if you would try to develop a little reading comprehension, you would understand that I really do not care one way or the other, I just believe the decisions on game management should be left up to the individual states and the citizens of those states. If you are happy with the Feds dictating game management to your state based on the wishes of people in New York and other places in the east, more power to you.

Somehow I do not get the feeling that everybody in your state wants the Feds dictating game/wildlife management to them, especially where wolves are concerned. Maybe you do, maybe you think it is great to have wolves in Montana because some greenie/tree hugger in New Jersey wants them to be there.

Nope, don't want wolves, don't want greenies, Feds or Texans having a say in what happens at all.

And sure don't see why some loudmouth that is not affected in any way always feels it necessary to tell us what is best and how we should be handling things.

You're no better (nor different) than the "greenie/tree hugger".

Edited to add:

From Crazy "the people having to deal with the effects of wolves on a daily basis are the ONLY ones that should have a say in the matter."

And that ain't you!

Yes, but if you folks don't get backing from folks from other parts of the country, the folks that want you to have wolves will win.

If you can't understand that, it is your problem.

Fortunately there are folks in your state and the surrounding states that understand that this is a fight they are going to have a hard time winning by themselves.

My question is do you just have some problem with me, Texans in general or anyone that is not a resident of Montana?

In looking back over the posts on this subject, you didn't get involved until after I made a comment, so you have some sort of imaginary problem with me and I do not care.

You have a nice life, but my point remains the same, the people in the states involved should be the ones involved in the decisions, not Texans, even though they may support not having wolves forced upon you, and definitely not people in New York or New Jersey or Rhode Island that believe wolves should be running all over the country side out in your part of the world.

I live here, thought the idea of introducing wolves was a joke, not because I mind if there are some out there but because I knew when the time came to manage their numbers with hunting it would be more trouble than it's worth and that's pretty much where we are at.

As for the billboards.......the two in Montana I'm aware of will be down this Monday. I find this ironic, a lot of people bitched saying it was a business decision to put them up and to hell with local opposition. But now it's also a business decision to pull them because enough people bitched, mostly out of staters by the way. Same same. I've lost count of how many billboard ads have received complaints. Strip Bars, pro-life, pro-death, bars, casinos, tabacco when it was legal to advertise outdoor, alcohol, left political, right political. If it were up to me and it's not, I'd tell all the complainers including the ones on the wolf ads to go pound sand. Advertising is a medium for everyone to express their views or sell their product. Of course there are exceptions that include over the top sexual messages, a favorite of PETA and to my knowledge all have be rejected. But then Adam & Eve stores advertise (and get complaints) but their ads aren't graphic.

Shockingly one of the ad campaigns that drew a LOT of negative comments were the METH billboards aimed towards young people. I'm so glad I'm in operations not sales.

No, Crazy, my problem is entirely with you. You are just not a nice person. Also, you are not nearly as intelligent as you want to think.

I feel I get dumber everytime I read posts by you.

But that is behind me now as you are being put on ignore.

Good day to you.

Jjbull

100% with you on that Texan dumbass. What does he know of wolves in MT? He probably believes in back up shots on guided little bitty whitetail hunts. In the end we live in a country where Crazy Horse is from Tx not the Dakotas and his vote counts the same as ours. Sucks.

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Originally posted by jjbull:
Also, you are not nearly as intelligent as you want to think.

Is anyone?

Really adult of you JJ, you too Navaluk, I merely state that management of a states wildlife needs to be left up to the folks that will most impacted, and I am the asshole.

Well, you are right, I am an asshole, but I hardly see where my supporting Montana's or any other states right to manage their wildlife without ANY outside interference should draw the type responses you two put out.

It really sheds light on why hunting and gun ownership are in danger of being lost, simply because people have some kind of imaginary hatred toward a person they have never met, never will meet, even though that person supports states rights to manage their own wildlife.

How the hell can hunting/firearms ownership be saved if hunters/gun owners develop such attitudes as you two have displayed, simply over what a person posts on an internet forum.

Regardless of you two citizens opinion, I still believe that the individual states should be the one in charge of the wildlife within their boundaries.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

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Originally posted by jjbull:
Also, you are not nearly as intelligent as you want to think.

Is anyone?

Good Point.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
...I still believe that the individual states should be the one in charge of the wildlife within their boundaries.

Hmmmm? States rights.
Sounds like the type of thing that could start a Civil War...

1861 was a good year.

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Sounds like the type of thing that could start a Civil War...

One can only hope.

Heck, I live in Japan and I still have an opinion about the wisdom of stocking wolves in the Western states. We probably all do.

Of course, mine is colored by family stories of my grandparents homesteading in the Dakotas and being threatened by wolves outside the house.