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I brought my brother with us for the first few days of our muzzleloader. He is going to Iowa next month for a bow hunt. He decided to use his bow while hunting with me.

The evening before the season started. We went hog hunting. He arrowed 3. He used his bow again for the first day of the muzzleloader deer season.

Yesterday evening, I got a text. He had a big one less than 10 yards. It winded him. The next message I got was a bit more frantic. According to him, he stuck a "stud.". The deer was recovered after much effort

The deer is a bit shocking for this part the world. One side has the main beam broken . The other has 5 world class main points. It has 3 stickers that are at least 1 inch long. There are several stickers less than 1 inch long. We quickly scored the one horn. It scored 79! If the other horn was the same size, this would have been a 160 class buck! That is unheard of in is part of the world.

As soon as I get back, I will post a picture.
 
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2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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That's a good buck for FL. I spent 4 years stationed in Pensacola with the Navy and hunted every year. I always took deer but the best I got was a 6pt that weighed 155 undressed. And everyone said that 6 pt was a good buck for those parts.

Too bad that 1 side was broken off though. It would have been neat to see what the other side looked like.
 
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If one antler scored 79" and the other was the same you had better than 160" due to the width measurement.....

Heckuva deer anywhere!

I have a brother like that too, very annoying..
 
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Sorry Larry. You don't get to bitch about your brother to me...not after Zambia.

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Was there any testicular damage or damage to the bones of the back legs Larry?
 
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I recon it would score about 160. It's other horn was apparently broken in a fight. It was only 3.5 years old.

He missed another big one with a muzzleloader . He had two other shooters that he could not get a shot on.

I ended up whacking 2 big boars. One with serious teeth. I whacked 2 rack this morning though not in the league with his. I knocked down another big one. We are still looking.

Pics of the big one tomorrow.
 
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Just got a picture of another great Florida buck from my uncle in central Florida. This one was taken near Melbourne on October 26th. What's going on in Florida? Nuke plant leaking or something?



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These pictures do not do the deer justice. It has 3 stickers at least 1 inch in length. It has 6 sticker less than an inch long.

The hog has some pretty serious teeth.
 
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That is a great deer! It's a shame he's busted up. I grew up in central Florida and just never heard of deer of this quality being killed. Wonder what's changed?


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I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp.
 
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I can only speculate. I know some of the local Mormon leases have extensive feeding programs designed to grow bigger deer.

I think some have woken up to some of the unintended consequences of QDM. A lot of deer that would never amount to anything were never shot because they didn't meet some arbitrary criteria. Genetically inferior deer were left alone and breeding. Some of these bucks are now being whacked. For example, I just shot a 5.5 year old 7 point with a tiny rack. It needed to be taken out of the gene pool.

We did manage to find my big buck. If I can figure out how to get my i phone pictures into photobucket, i will post it.
 
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If I can figure out how to get my i phone pictures into photobucket, i will post it.


There is an app called tapatalk that will do this without photobucket. Works quite well.
 
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It has to be the feeding programs. I'm guessing the Florida soil is pretty poor in minerals given that it's mostly sand. My dad hunted deer in Florida when it was still pretty wild, and he said he never saw, or heard of deer of the caliber of that are being taken lately.

Here is an interesting article with some discussion of protein and mineral levels in forage used by Florida deer:

http://myfwc.com/media/544905/..._Deer_in_Florida.pdf


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I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp.
 
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My 10 point taken on Tuesday
 
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Nice! I may have to reconsider deer hunting in Florida. Smiler


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Florida does have some nice deer. Here's one from my lease north of Okeechobee in 2009. Best I could tell from prior years pics he was 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 yrs old when this was taken. He was poached 2 months later. I'm now hunting his offspring.

 
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I live on a golf course in Longwood. Some of the bucks I see in here as absolutely astounding. There are 2 that I am certain will score over 150. Seeing bucks that will make the FL big buck registry is routine.
 
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Congrats Larry, you guys did very well!


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