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Miles, I think you misconstrued my point. You will note the word "always" in my post. Some posters indicated that they always used head and neck shots on any animal. I don't disagree that a deer standing stock still at 30 or 40 yards can be shot in the head and killed instantly and that if one is comfortable with that shot, be my guest, I would and have taken that shot lots of times. I would also say that of the several elk and and moose I have had to track for hunters and were eventually lost, the majority (other than some simply poorly shot animals (gut shot) were "shot in the neck". Some at fairly close range. Again, that's not to say that under the right circumstance, with a great rifle and a dead solid rest, I wouldn't shoot an animal in the head at 300 + yards if that was the only shot presented on a trophy elk, knowing that he would be dead if I hit him and just fine if I missed. I'm just saying that I would not take that shot as a matter of choice and from your post, it seems you wouldn't either. Take care, EB | |||
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EB, You've got it about right. As a matter of choice, I haven't and wouldn't try a head shot beyond 100 yards under any circumstances. As a matter o fact, I have only ever head shot one deer at range. A gut shot buck that I chased as far as I wanted to out in a huge grass swamp. I build boxes to shoot from, very solid with a 2x6 shooting rail. I find that I can pretty well guarantee a deer will stop and look at me if I move or give a little wave with part of me visible above the shooting rail. I will deliberately head shoot chucks and varmints at range. Not deer though. But...inside fifty yards if I have the opportunity I will almost always shoot the head. Never shot a deer in the neck. Never thought to. | |||
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miles58, you still miss the fucking point!!!!!!! Head and neck shots are NOT for everyone! Given the right circumstances and conditions they work great. Let any little thing go wrong, and you can end up with a lost animal. Do You Feel That EVERYONE Out There Shooting AT Stuff Has Your Same Level Of Experience Or Expertise? If You Do Your An Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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OK! I was wrong! Crazyhorse, you are not welcome at my campfire. You have the intellectual capacity of a nine year old, and as such are not eligible to enjoy an adult beverage with the rest of us. Are you so eager to pee down your leg and bad mouth people that you can't be bothered to read anything or are you really just a nine year old poser? I don't know where you get the idea I think head shots are for anyone. I don't. I do not believe most people ought to be trying that. Even with my son who is an excellent shot with good judgment I never advised him to try one. I built in the skill and confidence, taught him to load his own ammo to get decent accuracy and let him make his own decisions. There are people with the intellectual capacity of a child and the maturity to match, and them, I kinda wonder how they get past the adjudicated mental defective question to buy a gun. Them, I wonder about even having the smarts to handle a weapon. I think that might be why Texas is big, to spread them out a little to decrease the risk to innocents. | |||
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being dis-invited to your "campfire" would be a badge of honour. | |||
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miles58, the best part of you ran down your Daddy's pants leg. First off you ignorant slut, I will be 60 years old in a couple of weeks and as a birthday present to myself, I will be celebrating it in Idaho hunting Black Bear. I do read what folks post, and you have continually belittled folks if they could not take headshots with certainty. I feel that if a person has the ability and wants to take head shots than more power to them, buit for the ass wipes, like you, to look down on others that don't is BULLSHIT with a Capital B. I would not want to be invited to your campfire or hunting camp period, because I like to hunt with folks that are realistic about their abilities and what works best. Somehow not being invited to your hunting camp or campfire sounds rfemarkably like having a Dr. tell you that you don't have VD, a real reason to rejoice. Stick that up your blow hole. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I was wrong again! You aren't a nine year old boy, your a six year old little girl. Show me where I ever once belittled anyone for not being able to make a head shot or stfu and wait until you grow up to be able to do a decent job peeing down your leg at someone before you try it again. | |||
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Now, Mr. miles58, I do believe all of the above are statements you made during this conversation. I have problems as does everyone else that posts on this site, Including Your Ass. Not all of us hunt under the same conditions you do Skippy! Some of us have hunted under lots of diifferent conditions and with enough different folks to actually have seen what happens with things such as head and neck shots taken by folks, including ourselves when things did not go just exactly perfect. If anyone is pissing around here, it is you and your self righteous little spiel about being the perfect shooter, and absolute authority and what type opf shots people should take. It is a Matter Of Preference Doofus. Most People Do Not Like To Take Head Shots, NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT DO IT, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THEM. You can't seem to comprehend or understand that many of us have said we have taken head/neck shots, and will take them again if that is the only shot available, but would rather have another target. Maybe you have either too much Maple Syrup in your eyes to be able to actually read, or just think that anyone that does not agree with your thoughts on the issue is not even a true hunter and should not even be posting on this site. That is pretty damn pathetic. I don't care if anyone ever agrees with me or not, I am just stating an opinion based on my hunting experience and that experience tells me that while head and neck shots can and do work, they are not everyone's cup of tea, and I don't like them. You have a great life. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Go get your diaper changed by mommy peaches and grow up a little before you go off on people. | |||
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You Sir, are a complete waste of time and space. You feel thay not only are you an expert shot and the most knowledgable person alive in regards to hunting, but you also appear to have illusions of grandeur of being a phycologist/physciatrist. You are making statements about someone that you have never met, never will meet, nor know one single thing about. I don't take head shots because I don't like them, not because I don't have your frustrated overblown sense of discipline, or that I do not hagve sufficient skill, it is simply that I do not like them. You Sir are a lioving example that with a little judicious CPR, an afterbirth can actually be kept alive. You honestly believe that you are the ultimate authority on this subject, and that anyone that disagrees with you is not only wrong, but immature with no actual experience. Your pathetic in the extreme, you go ahead and hunt and shoot the way you choose, and I will do the same. If me not thinking head/neck shots are the be all, end all makes me immature or inexperienced or not worthy of me calling myself a hunter in your opinion, that is your priveledge. Just as it is mine to understand that you are a stoopid bastard who is not worth the time and effort to argue with. Why don't you go get the Preperation H out of your eyes and ears so you will quit having such a shitty outlook on life and your place in it. Lastly, you ain't got the balls or backbone or imagination to do a Damn thing that would offened me Prick Face. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Today I have my first person on my ignore list on this forum. | |||
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This is interesting: http://forums.accuratereloadin...31/showpollresults/Y For all the hooping and hollering, most of us are just looking for a good clean shot, regardless of what that shot is. Next time I hope we can have this conversation with fewer bruised ego's. | |||
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