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As I type this, I look at a sagebrush landscape totaly devoid of any antelope.. and driveing to town yesterday, saw NONE! Met a rancher in town at the grocery store, and he noticed the same thing.. one small herd on his place has no fawns only adult does.. what gives.. Wolves? I know the BLM has shut down everything west of Hwy 189 to any motorized vehicle traffic all winter (makes coyote hunting almost impossible).. I used to do my share here west of the house..but I can't walk that far.. anyone have an idea?? Les | ||
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Several factors have contributed to major pronghorn population dives here in MT. We had a major winterkill...the likes of which have not been seen ever before. Also MT is having a bout of disease problems, mostly EHD. I'm not sure how much it affects antelope but one rancher has found at least 4 dead, seemingly healthy antelope near waterholes in the past two weeks. Populations counts indicate numbers lower than that of the 50s. I would venture to say it was winter that did your antelope in. I plan on eating my archery tag this year. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then is not an act, but a habit"--Aristotle (384BC-322BC) | |||
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Sounds like you must live somewhere between Farson and Pinedale...I'm going to hunt near there next week. It's not clear to me how much of this is natural and how much has to do with coal-bed methane, but there seems to have been a marked decrease in population over the last 20 years. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I'll take winter kill over wolves any day. The wolves are decimating our wildlife at an alarming rate. Some areas are now void of Elk. All the other game is suffering too, as well as livestock ranchers. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Things aren't too bad in 24 at all.  | |||
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Could just be a regional thing. We have them in town. Antelope numbers are up here. The cemetary has about 15 in it every day as well as farm fields right on the egde of town. My neighbor shot a nice buck that green scored right aT 83 inches less than a mile from town. | |||
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Maybe the new 10 mile long game fence is working.. its 12 miles north of us..saw one herd trying to find a hole in it yesterday.. they would be heading for my house..Randy.. nice goats.. Les | |||
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A 10-mile-long goat fence? Is that legal where there are migration routes? TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Some university trained idiot has it figured out that the migrations will funnel thru four or five underpasses .. how long do you think it will take antelope and deer to find 'em?? this bright idea brought to you by the same buttholes that planted wolves... | |||
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I dunno, not so fond of the idea of goat fences anyway. I'll be in Pinedale next week for a couple of breakfasts across from the KOA and the winter's barbecue meat. The Pinedale Campground changed owners not long ago, did they make many changes to the campground itself? It would be nice if the meat cutter re-opened, it's a long haul to Green River to get them cut/wrapped/frozen for the trip back. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Tom.. I think the Pinedale meatcutter is gone,, I have been taking antlope and elk to Jackson.. antelope become Italian sausage at Buffalo Meats in the little strip mall by Smiths Market. It's a shame I'm going out in the truck tomorrow morn, will be gone for 10 days or so..or we could meet for breakfast.. pm me your cel #.. Les | |||
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Hi Les We've been taking them to Henderson's in Green River, seems to be a good bunch. The now-IGA in Big Piney used to do them but quit when it became IGA; it was handy enough and we'd stop off at Gatzky's Grubhouse on the way back. I'll be in Pinedale by Wednesday, supposed to meet up with my hunting partner for ice cream at Farson and go to the store in Pinedale for fresh eats. I'm not sure how to send a PM, but will do so when I figure it 're out. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Hunting Unit 20 this year....DIY with my 16 year old son. Any suggestions or land owners would be helpful. I hate to hear numbers are down  | |||
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Les, they are dead. A disease called Blue Tongue ravaged the herds. It causes their tongues to swell up until they are unable to eat. | |||
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Redmouflican: don't know about unit 20.. I have since been seening plenty of goats here in area 89 and 90. no worrys... Antelope Sniper: haven't heard anything about blue tongue localy.. surely would have | |||
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Les, I usually hunt area's 47 and 48, around the Medicine Bow, Shirley Basin Area. About two years ago, those herds were virtually wiped out by it, at least, that's what the game warden said. Numbers in that area are still way down. Glad to hear the western herds are still holding up. | |||
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Antelope Sniper: Just met Tom and his bud in Pinedale for breakfast. there's a nice buck now hanging out in my lower pasture. saw him on the way back from town.. No doubt about it, the late spring/winter here in these parts have cut the numbers way down.. they should make a rebound in the next year or two.. Les | |||
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Y'all We saw somewhat fewer antelope this year than last, heard a couple of the local theories about why. We shot one apiece for the freezer and were happy to get them. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I was in Harrison, Nebraska over Labor day. There were so many antelope on the Nebraska/Wyoming state line I couldn't believe it. So many that I wanted to see what an out of state tag would have cost. | |||
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I think non-residents can only bow hunt for antelope in Nebraska. Thanks! Brian Clark Blue Skies Hunting Adventures www.blueskieshunting.com Email at: info@blueskieshunting.com African Cape Trophy Safaris www.africancapesafaris.com Email at: brian@africancapesafaris.com 1-402-689-2024 | |||
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Nebraska can be tough. Parts of Wyoming may still have over the counter doe tags. They usually run about $45.00 for non-residents. | |||
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A couple from South Dakota.   | |||
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Thanks for the nice pictures.. I've been seeing a few more goats just lately..guess they will be okay.. Up in St Maries Idaho this week, collecting a few grouse.. set up calling wolves yesterday, but nothing showed up.. maybe tomorrow.. Les | |||
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One thing I have noticed is they are traveling a lot. Several pastures one side or the other instead of just one or two pastures in the middle. Go get them oversized dogs for sure. Best of luck with that. | |||
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