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I received this info this evening: Gun Info - Bill HR 45 Well we all knew it was just going to be a matter of time before they started this. With all the problems we have in this country, you would think the "jack asses" would be busy fixing what is broke instead of trying to take another constitutional right away from law abiding citizens. Geez, these guys do NOT get it. Gun Info - Bill HR 45 They sure keep pushing...... BILL HR 45 Here they come, ready or not. Feel the water getting warmer? Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009. It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental and physical health records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and any ownership changes even if a private sale. Each update will cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right to own firearms. This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time? Pass this on to everyone who believes in strict Constitutionalism and remember that laws only apply to those who obey them. Criminals by definition and nature do not abide by laws. New laws and restrictions only apply to the law abiding citizen and are not written with the criminal in mind. With guns, it is not about having laws on the books to prosecute individuals, it is about taking guns away from the people so that no one has them in the first place. One last item to note, when assuming power and creating a facist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun laws because a disarmed populace was much easier to control than an armed one. The kings of old also outlawed weapons of any kind in any region that they conquered to quell the ability of the citizens to uprise against them. The Founding Fathers of this nation understood all of the above and because of this they included the second amendment in the constitution. In fact, they knew that at some point in every society's life span that the need for the population to arise came about. To this end they made the right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical state an absolute right that could not be revoked. They did this because the first thing tyrants and despots do is to remove a population's right to defend themselves When this is done, the tyrants have no problem with the destruction of society as we know it. Send this on to all true patriots! Protect your Second Amendment! Write via letter or e-mail to your Representative in the House and to your Senator. That is the way to stop this. I've heard that one letter represents 1,000 people becasue only one in 10K write. In order to write you Representative go to www.house.gov/ You will have to put in your zip code including the extra four digits. The e-mail page to your Representative will come up. Senators have their own e-mail page. OK boys, burn up the e-mail lines, that is the only way this monster can be killed. Anyone have any other info on this bill? LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | ||
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Yes they do. They are in charge and they know what is best for us all. Aren't you glad the people have spoken!! JUST A TYPICAL WHITE GUY BITTERLY CLINGING TO GUNS AND RELIGION Definition of HOPLOPHOBIA "I'm the guy that originally wrote the 'assault weapons' ban." --- Former Vice President Joe Biden | |||
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They sure as hell do get it. They know EXACTLY what they're doing, and will stop at nothing till we are all unarmed. Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'. It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental and physical health records being put on file. You will also be required to file any address changes and you must report any ownership changes even if private sale. Each update will cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right to own firearms and be subject to criminal penalties. This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time? Pass this on to everyone who believes in strict Constitutionalism and remember that laws only apply to those who obey them. Criminals by definition and nature do not abide by laws. New laws and restrictions only apply to the law abiding citizen and are not written with the criminal in mind. With guns, it is not about having laws on the books to prosecute individuals, it is about taking guns away from the people so that no one has them in the first place. One last item to note, when assuming power and creating a fascist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun laws because a disarmed populace was much easier to control than an armed one. The kings of old also outlawed weapons of any kind in any region that they conquered to quell the ability of the citizens to rise up against them. The Founding Fathers of this nation understood all of the above and because of this they included the second amendment in the constitution. In fact, they knew that at some point in every society's life span that the need for the population to arise came about. To this end they made the right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical state an absolute right that could not be revoked. They did this because the first thing tyrants and despots do is to remove a populations right to defend themselves. When this is done, the tyrants have no problem with the destruction of society as we know it. We must be vigilant. Send this on to all true patriots! Protect your Second Amendment! http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-4 | |||
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This has been going aroound up here for about the last 10 days to 2 weeks. Wait till you really read it. Boys, we got the fight of our lives at hand. Batten down the hatches. Bear in Fairbanks Unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes. I never thought that I'd live to see a President worse than Jimmy Carter. Well, I have. Gun control means using two hands. | |||
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Not to down-play this, but this bill was introduced a month and a half ago, has no cosponsors, and is languishing in committee. Yes it's an ugly thing, but at this point it seems unlikely to get the necessary suppor to even come for a vote. Even the NRA isn't overly worried, saying it's too blatant to pass AT THIS TIME. I think that crazy Bobby Rush introduced this in the hopes that folks like us will get all fired up, fight it like crazy, then "compromise" on a watered down version - death by a thousand tiny cuts. _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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I am not sure, but I thought it failed or was thrown out today. | |||
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Rep. Bobby Rush [D-IL] (big surprise) also introduced this bill in the 110th Congress (HR 2666) it had a dozen or so co-sponsors back then and it never was even referred to Committee. This time it has been referred to committee, where I suspect (Hope and pray) it will die. Desert Ram is right, there are no co-sponsors of this bill. Most bills never make it past committee. | |||
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What about this? This was am emil I got earlier. Anyone know much about it? (Sorry so long I just copied and pasted it.) Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009, IF THIS BILL PASSES: It has already started.... Ammunition Accountability Legislation Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The bill 20 that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded. Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun! This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama , Arizona , California , Connecticut , Hawaii , Illinois , Indiana , Kentucky , Maryland , Mississippi , Missouri , New Jersey , New York , Pennsylvania , Rhode Island , South Carolina , Tennessee , and Washington . Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!! To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm | |||
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lengleng, That is frightening .... and sickening. Ammunition Accountability - Saving lives one bullet at a time Give me a break! | |||
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If any of the members who are reading this thread, actually want to do something to protect their rights and stop this bill, perhaps they would like to take advantage of the special limited time offer that the NRA is running for Lifetime Membership? If you are already a current member, a onetime $300 fee upgrades you to Lifetime Membership. Your life insurance doubles as well. Use promotion code: W9AVCRDE Call 800-672-3888 I did it on Thursday and so did a friend of mine. So I know it works. Up the Liberals. Cold Zero | |||
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There's also an opportunity to upgrade your lifetime membership to an Endowment membership for a reduced price. I'm lending it some serious consideration. _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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