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Had a nice, successful hunt thanks to the AR members in the title. All provided me valuable information for my Worland, WY antelope hunt.

I took this 13 inch pronghorn at 148 yards with a neck shot from a solid prone rest late opening morning on BLM land outside a beet field.



Very accommodating town. Contacted the Game Warden because I had a question which he was very helpful about. He then called me the next morning around 7:30 am to ask if I had filled my second tag and I hadn't so he asked if I would like to hunt some private land to help a farmer out with his antelope problem. I of course said yes and he met me in town and took me out to the property and I shot a nice plump doe.


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike:

Sure nothing wrong with that hunt.
Doubled up even, and helped the farmer and got him off the wardens back too.

Good for you. Neck shots are iffy, bit of meat loss there too.
Ribs shots seem to work best on goats.
They're easy to kill. I was laying out in a pasture with a guy that made a gut shot with a .300Win/m @ 130yds.
By the time we ran out to it, it was dead.
"damn, anything that will kill with a gut shot I've gotta have one".

Glad you had a good hunt and enjoyed yourself.
Thanks for sharing with us.

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Well that was a fast two antelope hunt MIke! I was hoping you would take a bigger one, but that's a good representative buck with what looks like nice, sharp cutters. Glad I could help with your adventure! I'll be heading out that way in less than two weeks for two months of fun chasing goats, elk, and deer like I do every year.
 
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Mike,

Congrats!!! Wish I could have joined you, looks like a fantastic time!!!


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Nice going Mike.
 
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Nice looking Antelope! Sounds like a good trip, we need to do a group one of these days.
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Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Congratulations, they are fun animals to hunt.


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Nice!

And a big thumbs up to the other hunters helping you out. It is great to hear stories like this!
 
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Thanks to all for the kind words.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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nice job.

you know IMO Wyoming has the best game wardens in the country.
they are actually helpful/friendly to the hunters, and not out to just fill their ticket books.
 
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Congrats on the antelope. Nice to recognize other AR members Mike. I certainly have benefited from our collective wisdom.


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Good shooting! Sounds like you had a good time. Now, to enjoy that great meat... tu2
 
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Congrats! Nice trophy and a bunch of good eating. Will be shooting two antelope myself in Oct also in Wyoming.


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Nice buck Mike. Great mass on that one.
Sounds like a really fun hunt.
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Congrats Mike!
What hardware did you use?
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For the buck, I used my Browning x-bolt in 300 wsm shooting 190 grain LR Accubonds over H4350. I was expecting longer shots but it turned out to be only 148 yards.

For the doe, given it was on private land in an ag field I was expecting a shorter shot so I grabbed my heavy barreled remington 700 in 308 shooting 168 ballistic tips over varget and the shot turned out to be a lasered 354 yards. Very nice of the doe to hold nice and still while I laid down on little irrigation berm.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Congrats on a memorable hunt. If you go antelope hunting get 2 they are so fun to hunt, they are so tasty, and they are so small one just doesn't provide enough.

btw Every Wyo G & F person from the office to in the hunting fields I have encountered has been a pleasure to deal with.
 
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Congrats on a memorable hunt. If you go antelope hunting get 2 they are so fun to hunt, they are so tasty, and they are so small one just doesn't provide enough.

btw Every Wyo G & F person from the office to in the hunting fields I have encountered has been a pleasure to deal with.


I have yet to see anyone on any hunting website I visit say anything negative about the Wyoming staff from Office to GWs to the Biologists. I started hunting out there in 1992 and haven't missed a season since 1998 out there. I know the GW for the area we hunt quite well and Tom usually stops by our camp once or twice during the couple months I'm out there every year just to shoot the shit. He got to know us so well after 2 or 3 years that since then he doesn't even ask to see our licenses or Conservation Stamp. He's close to retirement age, but loves his job so well that I think he'll stay on as long as he's healthy.
 
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The only time I hunted Wyoming for Antelope was in 1993, and even though things were not exactly by the book at the end of the hunt, the GW signed off on everything.

I do not believe a Texas GW would have been as open minded.


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Originally posted by slim buttes:
btw Every Wyo G & F person from the office to in the hunting fields I have encountered has been a pleasure to deal with.


+1

A few years back I even had one help me drag out a calf elk because he could see that my partner was struggling(the temp was near 0 and we were above 9,000ft). Good people in the WDF&G.


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Mike,

Congratulations on a pretty awesome hunt!


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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