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Hello,

I don't think I have ever posted in this forum.

But...I have been hunting elk in the high country of CO for too long.

I can't take the altitude (10,500 - 12,500) of my old stomping grounds any more.

I want to start apply for somewhere in New Mexico with lower altitude.

Was thinking the Gila???

Anybody got any suggestions??? Am looking for an easy place to draw into with altitudes in the 5000 - 7000 range as max.


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Lane, the problem is getting drawn in NM. It's a big issue for the residents, let alone the non-resident. Most of my clients go with landowner tags for the same reason. I'd start looking at NM G&F results. Give them a call and see if they have any advice on areas and best areas to start.
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If New Mexico allocates Elk tags the same as antelope tags then 10% of the tags are set aside for non-residents.


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If New Mexico allocates Elk tags the same as antelope tags then 10% of the tags are set aside for non-residents.


Not really a set aside for NR; the rule basically says NRs may draw only UP TO 10% and no more. Any given draw consists of both res. and NRs. So in any given hunt, the luck of the draw could produce --and often does -- a lower percentage. It's the same in AZ.

In reality, though, in NM, residents get less than 80% of the permits due to the private landowner tags and the number of permits (UP TO 12%) for those hunters (res. or not) who hire an outfitter.

Just recently, one of the NM legislators said he will likely introduce a bill to change this system so it's more heavily weighted to residents.

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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


Just book with a NM outfitter, and you're pretty much guaranteed a license.


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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


Just book with a NM outfitter, and you're pretty much guaranteed a license.


I just want a place to go. Got all my own stuff and ways.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


Northwest Colorado around the towns of Craig and Maybell. Average elevation is around 6,000 ft and the hunting is in rolling hills with sagebrush and cedar. Lots of public land and over the counter bull tags. Cows are easy to draw and often in that area are considered to be bonus tags which means you can have both a bull tag and a cow tag in your pocket at the same time.

There is a DOW office in Craig and the guys/gals that work out of that office are really helpful.

Not all of Colorado is high elevation. Both the northwest and southeast areas have elk and are fairly easy to get around in.
 
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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


Northwest Colorado around the towns of Craig and Maybell. Average elevation is around 6,000 ft and the hunting is in rolling hills with sagebrush and cedar. Lots of public land and over the counter bull tags. Cows are easy to draw and often in that area are considered to be bonus tags which means you can have both a bull tag and a cow tag in your pocket at the same time.

There is a DOW office in Craig and the guys/gals that work out of that office are really helpful.

Not all of Colorado is high elevation. Both the northwest and southeast areas have elk and are fairly easy to get around in.


Do you know of any places in SE??? Would be much closer to haul to.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I am open to any and all solutions as I just can't take the altitude anymore.


Northwest Colorado around the towns of Craig and Maybell. Average elevation is around 6,000 ft and the hunting is in rolling hills with sagebrush and cedar. Lots of public land and over the counter bull tags. Cows are easy to draw and often in that area are considered to be bonus tags which means you can have both a bull tag and a cow tag in your pocket at the same time.

There is a DOW office in Craig and the guys/gals that work out of that office are really helpful.

Not all of Colorado is high elevation. Both the northwest and southeast areas have elk and are fairly easy to get around in.


Do you know of any places in SE??? Would be much closer to haul to.


There are some absolutely huge elk around the towns of Kim, Trinidad and La Junta. There is a DOW office in Lamar and if I was you, I'd get ahold of them and get some info. I've hunted antelope down that way but not elk, so I'm not real clear on the status of tags etc... I'm really familiar with the elk hunting in the northwest area though.

It's worth pointing out that the best elk hunting in NM is around Raton Pass and that the northern part of Raton Pass comes out in Trinidad. Lots of bear around Trinidad as well.

Contact DOW and ask to talk to the big game biologist for that area. I've found the biologists to be a very good source of information in other areas and would imagine that it would be no different in that area.

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check into hunting eastern Montana, elevations of 3200 or less. Unless you are a bowhunter it might be easier to find an outfitter tag.


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It's worth pointing out that the best elk hunting in NM is around Raton Pass and that the northern part of Raton Pass comes out in Trinidad. Lots of bear around Trinidad as well.


What about the Gila???


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Since NM seems difficult...I am go to ask a CO question in a new thread.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Lane, the Gila is some of my very favorite elk hunting country of any state. I've had the good fortune to bowhunt elk in unit 15 five different years, and have also hunted unit 13, which is not in the Gila but just outside that region. In generaly, it is pretty easy country to hunt, and is very conducive to hunting on your own. There are a bunch of units down there, and the common theme they have is that they're tough to draw. If you don't mind spending some money, a landowner tag will guarantee you a tag anytime you want. If you find the right landowner, you can set yourself up for a tag every single year without having to go through the drawing.

The altitude is around 7,000 feet where I hunt, and I think we've driven the pickup to within a couply hundred yards of 4 or 5 elk, driving right up to 2 of them. There is rough country, but also lots of elk in easier places to hunt.

Rather than post up a bunch of specific information on here, I'll PM you and we can talk if you'd like.

Dan
 
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Just book with a NM outfitter, and you're pretty much guaranteed a license.


I'd have to disagree. Having tried for ten or so years and never drawing a tag. I just buy a landowner tag and may just quit putting in for the draw.
 
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It's worth pointing out that the best elk hunting in NM is around Raton Pass and that the northern part of Raton Pass comes out in Trinidad. Lots of bear around Trinidad as well.


What about the Gila???


Gila produces some pretty good elk, but the really big bulls in NM come from around Raton. Check the Boone & Crockett record book and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
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Would LOVE to find a place to hunt in NM near Raton!!!

Close to home.

Got any suggestions???


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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