Hi, I've been thinking of moving out of oregon. I'm just sick of this place and people. Ofcourse it here has to be timber, creeks, lakes, the whole shebang. I'm a hunter, fisherman, love to camp and I love running chainsaws. And I reload. It will just be me and my daughter, maybe my oldest son. He'll be 18 in a few days. I'm a single Dada. Daughter is 15. Thinking or Montana or Wyoming. Also a place that has work.

Wyoming without a doubt. NO STATE INCOME TAX!

I lived in Cody, WY for 11 years. Great hunting with access and good fishing right in town. Cody is a very friendly place without the WOKE shit.

Mark

Idaho, Montana, Wyoming would be the first 3 on my list.

Not Montana. It really sucks, because everybody else has moved here.

south Dakota is hiring.

Wyoming.

Montana

Idaho

South Dakota.

Than the Midwest. MO, KS and OK



In that order

It is a shame that your General Assembly is trying to make a rule to outlaw hunting. That says a lot about the people in your state. Our state legislatures voted a few years back for us to be a right to hunt and fish state. Several others have done this. Make sure you move to one of them. I wish that we could keep the liberals from pouring into NC.

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Originally posted by kennedy:
Hi, I've been thinking of moving out of oregon. I'm just sick of this place and people. Ofcourse it here has to be timber, creeks, lakes, the whole shebang. I'm a hunter, fisherman, love to camp and I love running chainsaws. And I reload. It will just be me and my daughter, maybe my oldest son. He'll be 18 in a few days. I'm a single Dada. Daughter is 15. Thinking or Montana or Wyoming. Also a place that has work.

Depends what your line of work is
Mountain states are work specific and can be low wages and high real estate

Switch on your time machine and set it for 1960s Siskyou County. Go look at prospective places, many of them are already discovered and populated by blue-state refugees that should have stayed put. Parts of Wyoming and Montana are already thusly polluted. Merna WY comes to mind, looks promising on a map but isn't. Jackson Hole real estate prices have worked their way down to Pinedale. Until the gas drillers came local kids had to move for jobs. Idaho has some good places too, just a little chilly in winter. Northern Maine has its charms...

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Originally posted by DIs:
Not Montana. It really sucks, because everybody else has moved here.

Welcome to the club. Not Utah either. The California refugees have overrun our metropolis. I hate the bloody rat race and our Capital city has gone politically retarded too. I want out!

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Originally posted by Lamar:
south Dakota is hiring.

I see you working.

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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:

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Originally posted by DIs:
Not Montana. It really sucks, because everybody else has moved here.

Welcome to the club. Not Utah either. The California refugees have overrun our metropolis.
I hate the bloody rat race and our Capital city has gone politically retarded too. I want out!

Very few Californios in Lund, UT...

Last week I went to the Congressional Sportsmans Foundation fundraiser dinner at Richard Childress Vineyards. Several people there in the industry. On every place setting they had a card that had information about the Oregon Initiative. Sad that this could really happen in America.

https://www.rmef.org/elk-netwo...ing-fishing-farming/

The black hills of SD are beautiful. I'm from the se part of the state. Flat lands and crops mainly but I do scratch a 160+ wt every other year or so in the creeks and shelter belts. Darn cold winters. Out west there is tons of public to play on. We're not a woke state.

If you're moving for political reasons, don't come here. We're likely following in your blue footsteps. Like most western states, the large metro areas have been infiltrated by liberals escaping their utopias. They then immediately begin turning their new homes into the same mess they left. Three blue cities in this state control virtually all of our politics. It's all the rest of us can to do to hold onto a few precious freedoms.

But if you like the outdoors, we have a lot to offer. Good public land access, a variety of species to hunt, great fishing (surprising for a state with much desert), high mountain hiking, and so on.

Colorado is the same.

We are purple not full on blue and basically 3 cities control the state.

Tue west coast commies have moved here from their socialist utopias and wonder why it’s not like what they left.

The hunting here, especially the elk herd is second to none. Deer hunting is good, tons of private land everywhere and amazing fishing.

Having said that you can see my list above.

I live in a red state, however, the two big cities are solid blue and they want the whole state to turn blue. I think that is the situation everywhere now. City people like taxes and handouts. That's not going to go away. Most of these places have also defunded law enforcement, have large to massive homeless and the same also with illegals.

The big cities are also where most of the jobs are unless you can work out of your own rural land away from the chaos.

We moved to MT 30 years ago. When MT was a great place to live. Now, woke shit, Cali and East coast libtards in Missoula et al are ruining MT. Not sure where I would recommend. MTG

Not sure if the work will be there, but Victor/Driggs, ID is great. If rain is not an issue the areas around Lake Coeur d'Alene have a lot to offer. Wyoming is an awesome state with no income tax. Say away from Jackson (crowds/expense) and most of the windy lower half of the state. Sheridan/Story/Buffalo, the Black Hills area and Star Valley all have what you want.

I just read an article in the WSJ that the Driggs area is under siege by big money Westies and Easties because of Jackson. Property prices are through the roof and the locals are fighting the influx of the overflow from Jackson. From what i read that area might have in the past but it doesn't check the box now. Beware!

Thats some funny shit because to 'locals' were the influx 10-15 years ago. I know because I've had family in the region for decades.

AND THE LOCALS sold the lands to newcomers

We live in TX. One of our daughters has twins and lives in Colorado. And we want out of the summer heat (this summer was abnormally hot and we spent 3 weeks in RSA and 2 in Colorado). Not sure if we will ever stop being TX residents and just get a second place. BUT, since she's in Loveland, Cheyenne is not that far.

To the Driggs, Victor, ID situation. The WSJ article is dated 9/21/23 a few things stated to the concern about it becoming another Jackson, Park City.
Real Estate: Median sales price in 2020 was $560,000 in 2023 it's $1,000,000.
Building a new Marriott on main drag.
There is a 1500 acre golf course that has gone in named Tributary with 500 homesites.
The Grand Targhee ski resort is 12 miles away and expanding.
The Teton County Commissioners are all on board for these expansions.
Looks like the table is set to be much different than it is now.
Not the kind of place an "Ole Country Boy" like me would want to put down roots.
I've always been amazed at people who want to move somewhere because of what it is i.e. taxes,culture, quality of life then talk and want to change it to the rot they left! They need to be shut out!

We need a wall- around CA!

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Originally posted by jdollar:
We need a wall- around CA!

Yah, no more migrants from Nevada. Let them stew in their own juice...

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Originally posted by DIs:
Not Montana. It really sucks, because everybody else has moved here.

True I left Montana in 1980 to take of a sick parent. Jane Fonda and Ted Turner had already moved in. The wave from Califorina had begun. I can't imagine it now, though I dearly love Montana. Have you thought about Alaska? Though Mark lived in Alaska and moved to Wyoming so that too!

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Originally posted by chuck375:

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Originally posted by DIs:
Not Montana. It really sucks, because everybody else has moved here.

True I left Montana in 1980 to take of a sick parent. Jane Fonda and Ted Turner had already moved in. The wave from Califorina had begun. I can't imagine it now, though I dearly love Montana. Have you thought about Alaska? Though Mark lived in Alaska and moved to Wyoming so that too!

Jordan and Circle are probably still pretty red towns. I had a really outstanding steak once in Circle...

The problem with moving for hunting and fishing is that most places don’t have enough to accommodate all who want it, so prices are up.

The true rural areas while politically good are problematic for long term jobs and (especially single dad) education opportunities for kids.

Here in MN, if you have the money for private access to hunting, that is very good (the public areas tend to be overrun with the folks who think they have a right to everything, and thus there is little) and our fishing tends to rely on stocking programs to keep it going.

The far north is less of that, but the schools and jobs are less as well.

If you are a big game hunter with an in demand skill set, look at the states with the most residence preference for tags.

Frankly, if you are hard working and motivated, where you go is secondary. Heck rural NY state and CT are nice… it’s just the cost of admission can be brutal.

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by kennedy:
Hi, I've been thinking of moving out of oregon. I'm just sick of this place and people. Ofcourse it here has to be timber, creeks, lakes, the whole shebang. I'm a hunter, fisherman, love to camp and I love running chainsaws. And I reload. It will just be me and my daughter, maybe my oldest son. He'll be 18 in a few days. I'm a single Dada. Daughter is 15. Thinking or Montana or Wyoming. Also a place that has work.

Depends what your line of work is
Mountain states are work specific and can be low wages and high real estate

This is an absolute thing.

My father's house he bought in 2000, that is on 5 acres and backs up against a cemetary with 50,000 KW powerlines running over it is worth $850,000 in Cheyenne. He has a 2 car garage, finished non-walk out basement, and a 800 square foot attached 2nd garage. They put a substation 80 yards away since he moved in. Neighbors are identical and all of them are selling out to move to South Dakota.

Unless you are going to live on interstate between Rawlins and the Utah border, Wyoming real estate sucks.

Might be some shit in Riverton on the reservation for a good price.

Another problem with moving is that you will be a transplant and locals will never truly accept you.
Especially if you come from the West coast. There is a huge prejudice here towards people from California. I have heard it is worst in the mountain states. The television show Yellowstone did not help. It was not like that before Covid.

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Originally posted by Capt.Purvis:
Another problem with moving is that you will be a transplant and locals will never truly accept you.
Especially if you come from the West coast. There is a huge prejudice here towards people from California. I have heard it is worst in the mountain states. The television show Yellowstone did not help. It was not like that before Covid.

I respectfully disagree
Plenty of guys from west coast moved here and besides occasional jokes about where they come from, we all get along like good friends, besides many of them bring business with them which brings much needed jobs as well

the northwest will it be canada or usa is paying the token on libtards creating an hellhole and when it is to hard to swallow they move up to create another hell ...

the killer with covid was how the people discovered they can work from home thus now moving to smaller places ...

and of course in rural places we will be always run by the people living in the big cities ... for the whole canada really 3 cities are telling the rest what to do ... :vancouver toronto and montreal ...

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Originally posted by Capt.Purvis:
Another problem with moving is that you will be a transplant and locals will never truly accept you.
Especially if you come from the West coast. There is a huge prejudice here towards people from California. I have heard it is worst in the mountain states. The television show Yellowstone did not help. It was not like that before Covid.

I don't see that in Colorado and I didn't see it in Montana unless the people were assholes. More prevalant in states like Vermont.

I was talking to a new PA at the local clinic.

he and her doctor husband moved here from MPLS/St Paul MN.

For the out door life. them that means XC skiing and MT bike riding.

I to her they are welcome as long as they didn't bring their big city ways with them.

Was at the range the other day and there was a man and woman there. The guy struck up a conversation and he and her have been here 3 or 4 months from Seattle, I recoiled when I heard that. They also said they had wooed 12 of their friends also. I told them a word to the wise, not even mention how in Seattle they did this or that. I told them that they or their friends try to change things they would be met with great resistance and their perceived enjoyment level would go down. I live in the hills of AR. and that won't happen. Also, as the conversation proceeded the woman's body language was telling.
Where they told me they lived, I really don't think they are long termers after the new wears off.

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by Capt.Purvis:
Another problem with moving is that you will be a transplant and locals will never truly accept you.
Especially if you come from the West coast. There is a huge prejudice here towards people from California. I have heard it is worst in the mountain states. The television show Yellowstone did not help. It was not like that before Covid.

I respectfully disagree
Plenty of guys from west coast moved here and besides occasional jokes about where they come from, we all get along like good friends, besides many of them bring business with them which brings much needed jobs as well

It’s not how they act.

ITS HOW THEY VITE!!!!!!!

This was a sad thread to read.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
This was a sad thread to read.

No mention of Tejas...
For me that dearth of BLM land would be a hindrance.

I'm a 6th generation rural Oregonian.When I go places & tell them where I'm from, I always get the look, then the conversation starts and I explain we have 36 counties and are ruled by 4-5 metropolitan counties.The Left has perfected the election theft here with mail in ballots with no ID. I've definitely thought about moving to another State. 10 years ago my list was Idaho, Texas, Wyoming, the Dakotas. Idaho is out, will be blue within 10 years from all the libtards leaving west coast cities and they are taking politics with them not realizing they were part of the problem. Texas is out the BORDER. Now my list Wyoming and the Dakotas. I'm in the natural resource business farming, it's impossible to pick up Farm or Timber ground and move it, so I will ride it out and keep my powder dry.

And yes this is a depressing subject.