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Hunters have every right to complain

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Hey forum moderator,

Can we get a seperate forum for "wolf bitching" so every toothless hillbilly who has ever seen a wolf, had their house burned down by a wolf, didn't kill a deer or elk because of a wolf (no mention of their hunting skill or body fat index), lost their wife to a wolf, didn't get a promotion because of a wolf, or got a bad tax return because of a wolf can vent their frustration and save the "American Big Game Hunting" forum for those folks who still like to hunt and shoot but are tired of hearing about the freaking wolf issue?

You know what fellow AR members, I live in an area with wolves. Have the wolves made my life a living hell? No. Am I still able to kill and elk, deer and antelope every year despite them? Yes. Have I had to change the way I operate in order to accomplish this? Yea, but there are a lot of other BIG issues people don't give a shit about that have a hell of a lot bigger impact on wildlife populations that a few wolves.

I would rather have a few wolves around than any more idiots from California or Back East moving to my home state and building their houses on critical mule deer and elk winter range...but I'll save that bitch for a different day.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Let me add my complaint about wolves....

They need to be managed with lead medicine without bureaucratic road blocks.

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Let me add my complaint about wolves....

They need to be managed with lead medicine without bureaucratic road blocks.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Let me add my complaint about wolves....

They need to be managed with lead medicine without bureaucratic road blocks.

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Wolves have become the easy scapegoat for those who spend too much time on their four wheeler and are either unwilling or incapable of killing an elk on their own.

In some areas of the state, moose numbers are in decline. However, the jury is out when you look at all the factors that have negatively impacted moose numbers. Eleaophera, habitat degredation (in some places due to a WAY over inflated elk population), and habitat loss (Jackson hole was awesome moose winter habitat, before people came and screwed it up).

All I'm saying, is maybe some of you need to lighten up and do a little research on your own before reading the local rag newspaper and jumping to the "sky is falling" conclusion. No go back to grabbing your pitchforks and torches....

Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

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Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Wolves have become the easy scapegoat for those who spend too much time on their four wheeler and are either unwilling or incapable of killing an elk on their own.

In some areas of the state, moose numbers are in decline. However, the jury is out when you look at all the factors that have negatively impacted moose numbers. Eleaophera, habitat degredation (in some places due to a WAY over inflated elk population), and habitat loss (Jackson hole was awesome moose winter habitat, before people came and screwed it up).

All I'm saying, is maybe some of you need to lighten up and do a little research on your own before reading the local rag newspaper and jumping to the "sky is falling" conclusion. No go back to grabbing your pitchforks and torches....

Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

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Originally posted by CA Safari Hunter:

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Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

Your Peta card is showing.......

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Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Yea, but there are a lot of other BIG issues people don't give a shit about that have a hell of a lot bigger impact on wildlife populations that a few wolves.

I would rather have a few wolves around than any more idiots from California or Back East moving to my home state and building their houses on critical mule deer and elk winter range...but I'll save that bitch for a different day.

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Originally posted by Yale:
Dear Moose Drool:

You stated the following:

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Wolves have become the easy scapegoat for those who spend too much time on their four wheeler and are either unwilling or incapable of killing an elk on their own.

In some areas of the state, moose numbers are in decline. However, the jury is out when you look at all the factors that have negatively impacted moose numbers. Eleaophera, habitat degredation (in some places due to a WAY over inflated elk population), and habitat loss (Jackson hole was awesome moose winter habitat, before people came and screwed it up).

All I'm saying, is maybe some of you need to lighten up and do a little research on your own before reading the local rag newspaper and jumping to the "sky is falling" conclusion. No go back to grabbing your pitchforks and torches....

Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

After reading your diatribe, I have one question:

Which animal rights organization(s) do you shill for?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

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I'm a third generation Wyoming native, more native than 90% of than the self proclaimed experts who claim they are from this state and just moved here a year or two ago.

I live in NW Wyoming, a stone's throw from the foot of the mountains and have hunted, fished and trapped my whole life.

I guess that makes me qualified to speak my mind on the subject....while I am no expert, many of you dimwits need to realize there is a lot more going on with decline in certain wildlife species in the GYE besides wolves, but they are the easy bitch.

I guess putting actual thought into the subject and educating yourself is a foreign concept.

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:

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Originally posted by Yale:
Dear Moose Drool:

You stated the following:

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Wolves have become the easy scapegoat for those who spend too much time on their four wheeler and are either unwilling or incapable of killing an elk on their own.

In some areas of the state, moose numbers are in decline. However, the jury is out when you look at all the factors that have negatively impacted moose numbers. Eleaophera, habitat degredation (in some places due to a WAY over inflated elk population), and habitat loss (Jackson hole was awesome moose winter habitat, before people came and screwed it up).

All I'm saying, is maybe some of you need to lighten up and do a little research on your own before reading the local rag newspaper and jumping to the "sky is falling" conclusion. No go back to grabbing your pitchforks and torches....

Only one predator on earth has depleted its food sources into extinction....man.

After reading your diatribe, I have one question:

Which animal rights organization(s) do you shill for?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

I'm a third generation Wyoming native, more native than 90% of than the self proclaimed experts who claim they are from this state and just moved here a year or two ago.

I live in NW Wyoming, a stone's throw from the foot of the mountains and have hunted, fished and trapped my whole life.

I guess that makes me qualified to speak my mind on the subject....while I am no expert, many of you dimwits need to realize there is a lot more going on with decline in certain wildlife species in the GYE besides wolves, but they are the easy bitch.

I guess putting actual thought into the subject and educating yourself is a foreign concept.

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BULLSHIT

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Hey forum moderator,

Can we get a seperate forum for "wolf bitching" so every toothless hillbilly who has ever seen a wolf, had their house burned down by a wolf, didn't kill a deer or elk because of a wolf (no mention of their hunting skill or body fat index), lost their wife to a wolf, didn't get a promotion because of a wolf, or got a bad tax return because of a wolf can vent their frustration and save the "American Big Game Hunting" forum for those folks who still like to hunt and shoot but are tired of hearing about the freaking wolf issue?

You know what fellow AR members, I live in an area with wolves. Have the wolves made my life a living hell? No. Am I still able to kill and elk, deer and antelope every year despite them? Yes. Have I had to change the way I operate in order to accomplish this? Yea, but there are a lot of other BIG issues people don't give a shit about that have a hell of a lot bigger impact on wildlife populations that a few wolves.

I would rather have a few wolves around than any more idiots from California or Back East moving to my home state and building their houses on critical mule deer and elk winter range...but I'll save that bitch for a different day.

~Ann

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idiots from California

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Unfortunatly, many of you are so tuned in to the wolf issue that you don't pay attention to the many, much bigger wildlife issues. Wolves are a highly charged emotional and political issue, that is why we are in this current mess. Bitching about it won't fix anything because it's out of our hands at this point.

While I am not a wolf lover, I'm not a wolf hater either. I would sure like the opportunity to hunt one some day, but whining about it isn't going to make that happen any time soon.

There is a lot more at work these days leading to the overall decline in wildlife in the GYE and west in general. I was hoping my post would open some eyes, instead it brought out the personal attacks and even questioning where I live (yes folks, I jhave lived in Wyoming my whole life...believe it or not, or you take take the word of ravener, who just fell off the turnip truck yesterday in Meeteetse, took a horse ride up the Greybull and declaired himself a mountain man so go ahead and take his word for it).

More deer and elk winter range gets gobbled up each and every day by oil and gas development, there had been an almost 60% decline in the Wyoming Range mule deer herd (best herd in the nation)...no one cares.

Big mule deer and giant elk country in central Wyoming is getting all sorts of tore up by new oil fields, pipelines, in-situ uranium mining and wind turbines...no one cares.

HUNDREDS of deer and antelope get hit and killed by cars each and every year just along Trappers Route by Pinedale. WYDOT makes an over pass and people bitch about their tax money going to waste on stupid deer...no one cares.

A huge gas development is proposed for the Arminto area which will tear up some of the best antelope country in the world...no one cares.

I guess I find it funny, that you have the ability to voice your opinion and put your money where your mouth is to help many causes, but choose to do neither because you're so busy bitching about wolves and what they've done to ruin your little lives...well, with everything else going on in WY the wolves won't have anything to eat and by the time everyone figured that out it will be too late.

I'm out.

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More deer and elk winter range gets gobbled up each and every day by oil and gas development, there had been an almost 60% decline in the Wyoming Range mule deer herd (best herd in the nation)...no one cares.

Big mule deer and giant elk country in central Wyoming is getting all sorts of tore up by new oil fields, pipelines, in-situ uranium mining and wind turbines...no one cares.

HUNDREDS of deer and antelope get hit and killed by cars each and every year just along Trappers Route by Pinedale. WYDOT makes an over pass and people bitch about their tax money going to waste on stupid deer...no one cares.

A huge gas development is proposed for the Arminto area which will tear up some of the best antelope country in the world...no one cares.