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Got the opportunity to shoot another Oryx before the Sept 1 deadline. This time with a twist, at night! Due to them being exotics I was able to lawfully use a spotlight and rimfire. I chose to use my 22Mag. I used flat point FMJ ammo to do the deed. At about 75 yds the head shot made him reel almost head over heels and was dead within a minute or so. Upon autopsy I realized the little bullet had scrambled the grey matter and EXITED. Now my freezers are full and I have even given away some to friends and a couple folks less fortunate than I. Andy We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | ||
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I was told by my best friend that this was an extremely controversial post. Now there have been over 120 views and not a single comment other than this one. Perhaps this is really not a controversial issue?? We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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The animal died from a well placed shot with what most hunters would deem an underpowered cartridge the day before it was to become illegal to kill it. Now it's steaks and cheeseburgers in your freezer. Controversial? Perhaps. But it worked for you, right? I just wish I could have made the opportunity to get one myself. _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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Andy, I am praying for you, | |||
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To send me some meat to try! j/k | |||
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Bullet placement is the most imporant factor in killing any animal. | |||
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Legal and fun, sounds interesting. Any photos? "Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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Nice going, Andy!  So when can I drop by for some grilled backstrap?  Any photos to share? Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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The only controversy I can see arising from it is from folks that would love to have had the opportunity to do it themselves but could not. IE, Sour Grapes. Congratulations, wished things had not been reduced to this point, but Hey, Big brother knows best. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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The controversy I was expecting was a thorough talking to about the irresponsible use of rimfire on an animal this size. Initially I was going to use a 22LR, but a friend recommended 22MAG if I had one. Is this something I would recomment to the average hunter/target shooter.....ABSOLUTELY NOT! I know exactly where the brain pan is, and I know how close I have to get. Using a spotlight to daze and confuse helps, especially when your best friend and hunting partner is holding the light. We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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Funny,but I always enjoy reading about the capabilities of the .22 rimfire.... | |||
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LAL, Does anyone use rimfire for critters this size in South Africa? We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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Drewhenrytnt, it is illegal in South Africa, but some people do and normally at night with a spotlight and at very close range. | |||
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Do I understand correctly that the Scimitar Oryx can no longer be hunted? Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Correctamundo. Scimy Oryx is off the options list. Unless USFW decides to appeal again..... We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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The paradox of your message, and where I see the controversy, is that it appears under the section 'American big game HUNTING', where, clearly, what you and your 'buddy' engaged into, is not hunting at all. Personally, I don't even see the point of shooting an animal the day before it goes off the list, just for the heck of it...Unless, of course, you are in dire need of food. best wishes, Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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Thank you for your opinion. I bet you have never eaten Oryx. It is FANTABULOUS!! This particular kill was not a hunt, it was an extermination. The Albino I got a week or so before was a grueling all day affair. Some of the flesh from both animals was given to friends that are less fortunate and in dire financial straits. All in all, I'd do it again in a heartbeat! We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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....and you would lose that bet. I have shot 3 oryx in their native Kalahari under hunting conditions, fair and square... Did you mount the trophy? better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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So you are one of the ones responsible for them being extinct in their native habitats......now we know. You said you shot them, did you eat them too. There is a difference in shooting and eating! Yes the trophy is being done by a taxidermist in Edinburg,Texas. I posted a picture a couple pages back of my trophy Albino. We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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aaaand you lose that bet too, homeboy . I was part of a culling operation in the Karoo and we shot them for the meat. Not because we wanted to 'exterminate' them but because their population was getting too much for the habitat and wanted to keep the balance for the farm. We did eat them and made biltong and sausage from them. I don't have them in my wall (after I shot them by blinding them with a light the great hunter that I am ), I have a picture of them being skinned. Yippeee kayeee...Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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You two are talking about different oryx. What Finman shot in the Kalahari isn't even close to being extinct. Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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you two are talking about different animals Finman shot Gemsbok, or Oryx drewhenrytnt shot a Scimitar Horned Oryx, different animal....... I really don't care how you kill an animal, but I sure as hell wouldn't of come on a hunting forum and brag about killing an Oryx at night with a 22rf rifle.... troy, my 2 cents and worth what you paid for it... Birmingham, Al | |||
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Now the controversy begins...Yeehaw! There are circumstances surrounding this kill that might change your mind. In Texas this animal is an exotic and it was legal to kill them anytime of year just about anywhere by almost any means. The 22MAG not to be confused with the puny 22LR is quite possibly the perfect ctg for removing animals in scenarios such as this. A few days prior another hunter shot one with a centerfire and killed the one behind it too. He had to pay for two animals. The little bullet has nary enough energy left after exiting the skull to do much of any damage. I made sure I would not wound or kill another unintentionally. The only other rifle I had ready to go was a 375H&H or a 308Win. Neither was appropriate for this kill. Too big a chance of unintentional damages. Can you get close enough to make a shot with a rimfire and know it will be good during the day or night?? The rancher wanted these animals gone by hook or by crook. I am glad to have been able to help and do it responsibly. SASQUATCH We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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Whoa, whoa.....no they are not. Scimitar Horned Oryx are still 100% LEGAL to hunt. There has been no official law proposed by USFWS yet. It probably won't be long....but for now, they are still legal. _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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Do you have a cite where this "fact" is stated? Last I heard as of last month, the USFW is not proposing that the three critters in question cannot be hunted, but instead, it will require an exemption permit similar to the CITES permit now available for many animals. SEE Federal Register Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Why is it every time I search the Register I can't find squat. But just make a proclamation and all of a sudden it shows up. Thanks for the clarification! We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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you've were looking for a fight BEFORE you posted this "hunt". I'm very familiar with the 222lr and the 22wm, having killed animals with both, including probably a dozen deer with a 22 short hollow points and 22lr standard velocity lead hollow points. you missed my point...I wouldn't even consider posting what you did on a hunting forum, nothing hunting about it. You just executed an Oryx. Same as bopping a pig in the head with a hammer to kill it for slaughter for a BBQ...or shooting it in the ear hole with a 22wm. I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you over this. Enjoy the meat, it is excellent eating. troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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Thanks for posting this Tony! I knew this permit was going to be required but didn't know where to find the information. Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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Just a question here, would you have turned down the opportunity if it had been offered to you????????? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I have yet to find an official statement closing the S. Oryx, Addax or Gazell. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Might not, but I wouldn't come in a HUNTING forum and post my 'achievement'. There's nothing to be proud about here and definitely nothign that promotes the picture of hunting to the public. This is an open forum and everyone can read this. And, since we are on the topic, if I were to shoot an animal the size of an oryx in the middle of the night, I would have taken something more substantial than the punny .22WMR. It could have gone wrong and I would like to be a fly in the wall, watching the tracking of an animal shot in the sinuses in the middle of the night.... Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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Contrary to your opinion night hunting is legal in many areas.It is also just as ethical as any other type of hunting and yes it is hunting.Really the true meaning of hunting is putting meat on the table,not some nonsensical justifying of some set of silly ideas that if you kill a certain way you are a Sportsman and if not you are a Heathen.  | |||
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When you speak of "unintentional damages" are you referring to the possibility of a pass-through killing or injuring another animal that is not visible in the darkness? I'm not pissing on your post...I would have done it myself as well (I've tasted Oryx!  ). I'm just trying to understand the caliber choice.John | |||
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@JWM Yes pass-through killing is exactly what I was trying to avoid and I did. @Finman There is nothing puny about 22WMR. Long Rifle would have been a poor choice. By your own statements you would have chosen a more powerful ctg and risked pass-through damage. NOW WHO IS THE IRRESPONSIBLE "HUNTER" POSTING ON A PUBLIC FORUM??? We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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No need to write in capitals my hunting friend...I can read them! I'd've thought that one checks what is in the background before taking any shot, with any calibre, as we miss probably with the same certainty that we hit... Hence, in 'my hunting universe' appropriateness of calibre and safety go hand in hand . If I am not sure of a shot, I don't take it. I guess I should get me a .22WMR and spare me this annoying habit???Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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finman, just a question here, exactly how many times have you hunted in Texas or been to Texas??????? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Crazyhorseconsulting, I have never ever hunted in Texas, and I don't think I will pursue the opportunity either... Are you trying to tell me that the density of game is such that overpenetration will always result in injuring another animal, or the population density is such that overpenetration will hit a house? best wishes, Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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No Sir, just trying to get the point across that things are different from one locality to another. Under the conditions that prevailed in this hunt, over penetration might have been or was a real concern so that is why the caliber used was chosen. Had a larger more powerful round been used, say a 243, than more than one animal might have been killed and wounded to a degree that it would have to be killed. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I have no regrets. Would do this again in a heartbeat if the opportunity arises. Best part was the $300.00 price tag! During the day, when I was positive of not hitting another, 375H&H worked great. I think given the chance a lot of folks would enjoy this kind of hunting. This was a freezer fill hunt for me as these animals were not trophy grade. I wish I would have had my 22Hornet or my 221Fireball set-up. Maybe because they are centerfire it would be ok??? NAH! I'll stick to my rimfire magnum as long as legal in my state. Gotta get close. Gotta be a precision shooter. We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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when drewhenry was a lil baby? sittin on his pappy's knee His pappy pikd' him up an threw him to the floor and said, this kids' dun snuk a rimfire in on me. Go Drewhenry Go Drewhenry  Bet you didn't know you were an iconoclast...... Sometimes sacred cows make the best hamburger!  GWB | |||
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