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D99 wrote:
You have access to the ignore feature just like anyone else. Have at it...  Your attitude and earlier outburst are quite perplexing. You initiated the post to promote your agenda -- on a PUBLIC forum, I might add. You welcomed those who agreed with your PERSONAL OPINIONS and went ballistic on those who chose to disagree, including the extremely offensive remark to SSGraves155, for which I still believe a real gentleman would apologize. You also wrote: "if you want to mock my lack of what you see as a positive contribution toward the greater hunting community that's up to you." Your hypersensitivity is getting the best of you. I have NEVER mocked you as my manners are better than that -- not to mention I choose to extend common courtesy as much as I can. I challenge you now to find any place where such would have occurred. Until then... Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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My opinion, for what it is worth. In current Western society, particularly the English speaking part (I have family in Australia), subjective truth is more important than objective truth, presentation counts more than substance. Additionally, the vast majority of people, maybe all people on some 'sensitive subjects', cannot face reality. Examples which spring to my mind are grandfather / grandmother, mum / dad have gone to live with God, Spot had to be put to sleep etc. Some are merely 'white lies' told for the best of intentions, but they form part of the collective refusal to face life. So, if 'harvesting' makes our hunting / shooting more palatable to the majority which do not hunt, then I suggest we follow the Jesuist adage of the ends justifying the means. We want to be allowed to continue hunting, they want a "Disney" view of the World which is fair, tidy with prizes for all. | |||
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No offense intended, just sticking a "barb" or two on the fence wire.  | |||
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Hey Bobby, That is pretty good, but since Skinner is agreeing with you, I have to suggest a slight mod - harvest: a transitive verb to kill animals, using good old never actually improved upon Lead Bullets, for food, sport, or to control their population. Goog Hunting and clean 1-shot KILLS!!! | |||
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If the goal is to eliminate lead fragments in donated venison, since donated venison falls under local, state and Federal regulation, then a lead free bullet is a significant improvement. Or if the law requires the use of non toxic projectiles for conservation purposes the non toxics are quite an improvement over whining about not using lead bullets. I harvested a couple feral hogs with Nosler E-Tips in the condor zone and they worked just fine | |||
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Guys, I never call anyone here a liberal or any other name. I was only saying that if a dedicated liberal says "KILL" it can't be that bad of a word in their world. I don't care if you say Harvest because I have also used the word in delicate places. Please stop taking what I say as personal! | |||
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 Really damn good post. Some folks just do not want to face reality and that includes hunters. Our world is changing, whether we want it to or not. If modifying our speech helps keep us from losing the ability to hunt and kill stuff, then for Gods sake modify your damn words and don't lose it for all of us. As I stated earlier, anyone your talking to that knows you are a hunter, knows what you mean, whether you say harvest/kill/catch/bag/take/dispatch, just pick a word you are comfotable with and go for it. Sorry RobThom, had to have a little rant there. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I was thinking about this "Harvesting Game" today and just can't see how running down a Deer with a Combine would provide the kind of meat I want. | |||
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LOL!! Thank you for adding some levity to this post!!  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Well folks, I hunt. I do not see what the big deal is with terminology. Sometimes when I hunt, though not always, I kill what I am hunting. I then harvest the meat, either for my consumption, local consumption (if I am 'away'), for my dog, cats or my poultry. That meat is gonna get harvested. Oh, my old pet lizards too. Some have a thing for grilled venison. Enjoy the hunt, don't get hung up on words. Roasted duck- curried  ~Ann  | |||
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Ann- Ahh...how evil to post that mouth-watering photo of the roasted duck just before my mealtime! My tastebuds are going crazy now, and those homemade enchiladas no longer sound as enticing. All kidding aside, the curried duck does look wonderful! Have a great evening! Bobby Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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I like to use kill or shoot for my own use...everyone else should use what they want...the one I don't like is TAKE...I take my deer home in my truck. I dont take them with a rifle. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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I usually use the words "killed" or "shot" when speaking of game I have taken personally. Sometimes in writing I may use the word "taken"--the way I worded a thread about which gun people had killed the most whitetail deer with. I don't really think it matters what term you use. Those who are against hunting are going to be against it whatever terms are used. Those who are for hunting, for the most part, also aren't going to care which terms you use, at least I don't. I do hate to see people get so worked up about it. My nickels worth. Red C. Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion. | |||
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I grew up with farmers, wheat is harvested, animals are not. I am probably not PC, anyone offended by the word 'killed' will probably be offended by me sooner or later anyway. As far as hunting goes, I don't see were anyone has a bitch unless they are vegan. If they are not, someone is killing their meat, I just kill my own. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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