Get a little closer to your quarry so when the rifle lets loose creating a possible miss you might score a hit with the resulting metal fragments.

I guess I'm just being narrow minded. The weekend is coming up. Try 55 gr. Blue Dot. I hear that really puts them out there.

Ray, you are going to hurt yourself, for sure, and maybe your shooting buddy, or an innocent bystander. Cut that load way back, be satisfied with 2750 fps. If you want to run faster with that bullet, get a new 300 Magnum.....Grant.

Someone should run quickload on this velocity/bullet/powder combo with a guess at COL being as long as the mag will take (or thereabouts)

I wouldn't want to be rupturing heads or blowing primers on a Remington action - I gather they are not noted for their ability to handle gas...

Maybe with a little more powder, you can get 3000 FPS from the bolt when it lets go!

Now, that, I would like to see. From cover.

No brain, no pain.

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because he wasnt expecting the oncoming PETERBUILT!!!

It horrifies me to consider the company I have to hunt with on public lands thesedays.

[ 09-20-2002, 05:46: Message edited by: Wstrnhuntr ]

i cant believe you guys saying you cant get higher velocities out of the ol '06,what if its ackley improved is it the same thing?i dont think so,and for all the negative "posters"well thats your right to post such.i'll chrono such loads this coming week again(temp.does have a effect on pressure and speed recorded).....but i know for sure in the past i was gettting around 3000fps with the same type load out of a rem.adl 22'incher.sure i'm considering a 300 win.mag,but i'm told by local gunsmiths they have loads in the 308 that go 3000fps with military loads that they got through military access and were over 160grs. in weight,you tell me.i know its possible and i know the rem.700 action will take the pressure.all of you that wanna take a negative vulgar statement at me be sure to do so,its all on your opinion(everyone has a opinion like they do have assholes)....i used to load also for my brother in his 308 loaded all the way to the top with a certain powder and he killed deer one shot a deer....my sks last year with 120 some grain steel jacketed hollow points killed deer with one shot and with large exit wounds(larger than what i thought)and had a friend that knew ballistics and he was suprised by the exit wounds,steel jacket would inhibit expansion greatly and increase penetration.hell,i even killed one deer with a glock 22 with a 135gr. corbon load,dropped him at the shot at 25 to 30 yds.,in his tracks with bystanders saying "holy shit",one shot through the lung cavity and he dropped as if hit by lightning.entry and exit wound clearly evident...shot one a few years back with a ss ruger gp-100 180 gr.loads at over 1300fps(closer to 1400fps) killed that deer deader than hell,all rounds penetrated and killed that deer dead at nearly 40 yards,plus i'm ex-law enforcement and know how and where to place my shots,plus i always shoot 100% on qualification.i've loaded for a long time and know whats what in that business,SAAMI is just a standard by which americans are based on,no other countries go on that standard execpt s.africa or other american based allied countries.so,as far as my based loads all the smart assed replies"KISS MY ASS",imr4350 and rl22 will get you beyond the biased reloading books or their data,i've never went with there max.loads,i've always went beyond what they publish,what they publish is within they're liability standards.so,thats all i go to say about that,by the way,7.62by39mm is less powerful than even the 30/30 win.but it killed deer beyond my scope of thought.......

rlinb,

Ok, 'fess up, you're a troll aren't you???

If not, read the posts again...the underlying theme is not so much can you squeeze that much velocity from a 30-06 , but can it be done at a safe pressure????

SAAMI may just be an American standard, but it is a standard American rifles makers and ammo producers follow and follow for very good reason...

Pete

well we could always see how big of a exit wound these 122 or so gr.bullets will do on human flesh,if anyone wants to volunteer,especially the smartasses on this post,dont matter to me i could make it look like involuntary manslaughter or an accident(no charge).i know the elements of criminal law in this state.

Now that is a snappy comeback. "If you don't believe I know more than everyone I'll kill you". Big talk, small penis.

Well, looks like a troll to me. I recieved two personal messages from it, and it obviously has no business owning any firearm or any thing more dangerous than a feather pillow. The guy is a sicko. I'd guess the age at about 15, with access to slick magazines.

Go back and read Ray's first post. He brags a little about a good deal on the Remington. Posts some hot loads and guesses at the velocity. This is all normal conversation that you hear from some. Most of the time they drive F bodies but this one has rifles.

Then he goes on with some limited info on what a SKS did. Not that relevant so it show's some youth. But then he gets riled up. This guy is fighting back.

So I say to Ray. You have a nice rifle there. Tell us what it chronographed at and keep in mind that there is no sense loading it so hot that you set the lugs back into the action and ruin it. The weak link in a rifle is the cartridge case and not the rifle in general. That the 30/06 has been loaded for about a hundred years now by a lot of smart guys like you and I and we get the velocities we post here.

Famous last words......."Hey Bubba watch this?"

How many reloads do you get out of a case before the primer won't hold?

Also, no offense, but video tape the chrono session showing the chrono as well as the rifle upon extraction of the case. Further, if you care to, take a press and dies to the range so you can shoot the same case about 5 times if it will take it...

Not calling names here, just asking for definitive proof.

Hey rlineb,
I just opened the private e-mail you sent me. It confirms what I thought. You're a fucking idiot.

Don't feel alone, Craigster, I got one of rlineb's love letters too (he wishes me a violent demise). And I thought I had been rather diplomatic with him! Understandable why he describes himself as "ex law enforcement". Thank god for small favors.

I see you are from NC. I feel better now that I know I'm not likely to have to share a firing line with you. You have a responsibility to caution anyone you may be shooting near that you are experimenting with loads that are well in excess of any published recommendations. Good luck and I'll keep you in my prayers.

Paul

Cripes! I've got to read these posts a little more carefully.....I thought he said "ExLax".

This thing is not former law enforcement. It would have never made it through the psycological screening at the academy. It may have been a rent a cop somewhere, or a wanna be, but definitely never saw line work, except maybe in some place like D.C.

Walmart security, maybe?

This is the message he sent me:

why dont i send you blasting cap and you stick it up your dick and you set it off and i video tape it exploding(and yes,i ca get them too).asshole,or you can get a pipe and i'll fill it with bullseye powder/stop-leak radiator powder and a blasting cap and you hold it while i detonate it on video cam.

Sounds like the calm, rational thing I'd want at my side in an emergency. It's obviously been reading too much from Paladin Press. I go back to my assessment of it probably being in the fifteen year old range.

He no longer deserves any response.

Please note I do not recognise this as a human intelligent life form in my post.

waksupi,
I concure, this guy has to be a fake, a wannabee, and an obvious idiot. As I have said before, when idiots are ignored, they quickly go away.

Sounds like yet another whiney with quickload an NO chronograph.

While this load would not detonate a rifle, it's far higher than I would go. It WILL show huge pressure signs, unless he's loading 7mm bt's in his 30-06.

there are NO old, bold reloaders

jeffe

to bad,i was serIous about tearing your asshole bod's into pieces of flaming shit.not 15 (not no where near that age (actually twice that) age.i've been loading for several years,i fired up "my possible" overloads last night and i'll chrono the up-coming loads to see if they confirm the previous loads"it was real hot when i chron'ed the last loads which will increase loads and pressure.so all you negative posters take note to that,not trying to to be hostile like i did the the last time,but you guys need to add to the possibilities of temp. and humidity,which will increase pressure,velocity and the whole bit.if not you're just assholes...shot the same loads tonight and no pressure signs occurred.so,we'll test it on a another time this week or next week and see what happens.thats why all the A'HOLES THAT GOT THE PRIVATE MESSAGE'S THEY GOT!other than than that i'm getting ready to change it over to ackley improved,then no one can bitch and complAIN,and i will say say its completely possible to get higher velocity out of the 3006,i've done it before and its possible,forget the loading books,they are shown for liability purposes only......and that only....the 3006 is capable of much more than whats shown in the loading books,welll not much more ,but ,but much more.federal high energy loads go with a 165gr.bullet at 3000fps and that can be seen with a 22"barrel with handloads,no shit,i've done it and beyond.no pressure signs or whatever....so,you, yourself be the the judge,the 3006 is more than what its claimed to be!!!!the 270,280 and 25/06 are way above the pressure signs to 54,000cup,you be the judge,same type rifle and all???you be the ultimate judge in pressure signs....

Here's my private e-mail...

"well, you should really try a load i like a pipe full of bullseye powder and radiator stop leak with a blasting cap, ill cam cord while i detonate it in your holding.... whammy! body parts everywhere! hehehe!"

Great stuff... with all such mail I forwarded it to a friend at the FBI for grins.

Brad

I have to agree with Stonecreek on this one. I would hate to see a nice peice of optics get hurt by a person's head who would load 3gr over max. The reciever could take a few rounds of this I am sure. But one day, you will pay the price.

Jeeze, some peoples kids. The .06 is a grand old cartridge that is capable of safely throwing a 165 grain bullet at about 2900 FPS. Why do you want to push this limit and risk damage to the firearm and worse you or even worse the guy hunting next to you? If you want over 3000 FPS in a .308 caliber go out and buy one of the 300 magnums. As for the scope, I agree with Stonecreek. I hope that you stay in N.C. and that I don't see you hunting down this way.

[ 09-23-2002, 19:31: Message edited by: Shark Bait ]

Using e-mail to make terrorist threats can be prosecuted as a Federal felony good for 5 to 10 years in Leavenworth and should be reported to the FBI. At a minimun, rlineb should be reported to his ISP. If he is a teenager like some belive, he'll have to explain to daddy why his internet service was cancelled.

Aside from the obvious other questionable practices, what bugs me is the repeated line about having "no pressure." That's obviously coming from someone who has extremely limited handloading experiences. It takes PRESSURE to get the bullet out of the case and down the spout. If there was NO PRESSURE, the round was a dud. But there were many other things wrong with the posts....like a "dinner plate exit". Don't how what they serve this guy food on, but mine is generally on a 9-10" plate. A .50 BMG with a frangible 750 grain bullet would probably not do that much damage.

Gentlemen,
On most of the boards I visit- when we get a thread like this- either the Moderator or the Administrator usually removes the thread.
When a poster starts making threats and gets out of hand- their IP address is usually blocked from the website.
I'm surprised that neither JesseJaymes(Moderator) or Saaed(Administrator) hasn't taken action?
The best thing we can all do is to let this thread die and ignore this person.

[ 09-24-2002, 03:34: Message edited by: CaptJack ]

Brad,
I was laughing at your first response, regarding if he was really that stupid, then he clarified the issue and you beat me to it.

Safety and common sense seem to be amiss in his thinking (or should I use that term).

He sounds like he is related to our friend from Ilinois.

[ 09-24-2002, 03:42: Message edited by: Customstox ]

Well, I will say on his last round of hate email, he did at least admit that he was a liar.

Good idea on forwarding to the FBI. I'll be shooting with the local director next weekend. He hates wannabes like this.

I got two "privates" from the puke. I'm going to forward both of them to the San Francisco office of the FBI. I'm tired of his shit.

rlineb,
I'm somewhat at a loss of what to say. There are things that might be said that considering you behavior may well be appropriate, but I don't care to go there. I have found the people on this site to be intelligent, experienced loaders and hunters. Those who haven't had much experience honestly state it and appear to be serious in their attempt to learn more about their sport.. Many of the early postings on this thread expressed concern for your safety. I think in our quest for knowledge many of us have read books in which photographs illustrated the very real danger of excessive pressures. Hatchers Notebook, has several photos that make me cringe.
I suspect that your problems go deeper than just being brash. I suspect that you are a very unhappy individual. Please consult your local yellow pages for some orginization in the mental health field and get some help, if it isn't already too late.

SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF B.S. ON BOTH SIDES,BUT IF THE GUY SAYS HE'S GETTING THIS,THEN SO SHALL BE IT.NO USE FOR BADGERING and all the hoopla about Contacting the cover-uping a'holes of the kennedy killing(and we all know they did)so,i have no use for them.I've got an "06 and it does get higher than norm velocities,but opinions are like assholes"everyone has them".If someone told me they load this grainage of powder in there load you think i'm gonna do it "no",but i will consider it and ponder it.

Has anyone else noticed that "thecrafter" (a new member) and "rlineb" have the same writing and grammatical style. Maybe "rlineb" has been reincarnated in the form of "thecrafter".

Chic, probably his little brother!

Brad

cWilson... it's him... a person can't change who they are, or in this case aren't, by hiding behind a new name. He may be older than fifteen, but he defintaetly quit developing beyond thirteen or fourteen...

regardless of what name he goes by, he can't hide from his IP:#/address till he changes computers