Reading another thread about the rogue dogs got me thinking....anyone else out there have close family that thinks a dog = man, deer, elk, etc = man? My mother in law is bad about it, but my sister in law is about one step away from the "animal liberation front"! It sickens her when they come down for Thanksgiving or Christmas and she runs up on us skinning a deer, sees on in the back of the truck, etc. I deal with it, as does she, but we just consider each other's views and try to tolerate it, as we both know the other will never change their views.

No anti's in my family but I get my share of patients that always tell me that they hope I have bad luck every time I hunt. 2 in particular.

1 is a vegan, the other actually used to hunt with her dad, gut deer, etc., but she thinks that "Bambi is just too pretty."

I have none in my family but one of wifes friends came over to visit once and once she saw the two couse deer on the wall, refused to come in the house. Like they were going to come alive and get her or something. It was quite humerous.

Hank,Doc & Earl:
While I don't have anyone in my family like that, you could have a heck of a lot of fun "stirring the pot" with them. I know I would. Sometimes life's a lot more fun when you can really piss somebody off.
You know, such as somone posting here on the board the comment "I think they ALL oughta be registered". Just some food for thought.
Bear in Fairbanks

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Originally posted by Hank H.:
Reading another thread about the rogue dogs got me thinking....anyone else out there have close family that thinks a dog = man, deer, elk, etc = man? My mother in law is bad about it, but my sister in law is about one step away from the "animal liberation front"! It sickens her when they come down for Thanksgiving or Christmas and she runs up on us skinning a deer, sees on in the back of the truck, etc. I deal with it, as does she, but we just consider each other's views and try to tolerate it, as we both know the other will never change their views.

Actually, Hank, I'm a little hard core. I'd
politely tell them to stay the **** at home!
I don't have any liberal friends. I consider
liberals to be my ENEMY! They are far more a
threat to my freedom than any communist Korean alive! Anyone who doesn't believe that, just look at the azzholes they elect and the laws make by those who were elected!

That's the problem....we Americans cannot seem to define the terms very well. Tolerance is a load of crap. It always seems to be a one way road. So **** them, I can live without them.

We have become a nation of collaboraters! I
have trouble understanding that?

a little off topic, but not too far.

The other day I was at a professional lunch with a few acquaintances--basically just knew of them.

SomehowI got pulled into a conversation about the "evils" of genetically engineered crops. One woman, in particular, was absolutely SHOCKED that I didn't take her argument on blind faith.

She was absolutely applalled when I politely said: "You must reaslize that what you're purporting is quite sensational, and if you're going to persuade a skeptic, it would be helpful to provide some kind of documentation."

"I didn't realize I had to bring my documentation to lunch today!" she exclaimed.

So there you have it--the masses are expected to accept, without question or hesitation, the evils of Capitalism.

It left me thinking: "jeez, I though I was smarter than that--but I must be an imbicile, as obvious as it all is!"

Guess I'm just stupid!

friar

I have a neice that was a vegetarian, I told her we have our eyes on the front of our head, we are predators, and that if hers were on the side of her head she would be prey, about a month later she ate a steak!!! She said she wasn't a cow.. Now she works for the FBI and carries a gun!!

I'm reminded of the scene in "Married With Children", when Kelly's current boyfriend points to Al, and asks Kelly whether that's her father.

"No", she replies, "my father's in prison."

There's one in every family.

So Don, why don't you tell us how you really feel about those radical left wing communists?
You're alright for someone who resides north of the mason-dixon line!

Hey Friar,

Well, you opened up a whole 'nother discussion with your genetically engineered crops thing...I work with USDA and we have all the genetically engineered crops you want to see down here in South GA. Corn, Cotton, you name it. Stacked gene cotton that is roundup resistant and kills off the normal cotton pests by itself...wild stuff. Of course that helps our quail population, as the farmers don't have to spray as much for insects now....there are many arguments for the positive attributes of the 21st century crops.

The sister in law just kills me with her mentality, but she is entitled to her views as much as I am I suppose...it just puzzles me how she can turn her nose up at me taking an animal's life for my family's consumption, all the while munching on a hamburger. The argument being "Well, yeah, but I didn't have to kill that cow"...as if that makes it better in some way. My friend from North Georgia came down over Thanksgiving...we took a number of fat tasty does to let him take back. Naturally we took some grief over that from the s.i.l. She had no argument when it was pointed out that 99% of the venison went to elderly shut ins that were begging my friend to bring them back some meat!!! It helps them along when they are on a fixed budget, and we are glad to help naturally.

Oh well, this argument will never be won by either side.

No anti's in my family. When I run into them, I usually tell them there is nothing prettier than a nice whitetail buck seen thru my rifle scope just before I send 150grs. of hot copper jacketed bullet in his direction. Or, I use the phrase my brother uses. "Animals have a place, on my plate, on my wall or on my back." Good hunting to all, its been a little slow here in the south Texas brush.

I have a brother who has been a vegan for 8 years, a sister who is slowly becoming vegitarian, and the rest of my family doesn't understand my "obsession" with guns in general.

For 3 years, I worked in a natural foods store with about 60 employees. Only 4 of us ate meat, and nobody had ever shot a gun other than myself. At first it was a very hostile environment. I had all of my pro-gun and NRA stickers removed from my truck and replaced with PETA stickers one day. The rest of the time they just called me "the killer".

Once I convinced them that guns aren't bad, and that hunting can actually benefit wildlife, they all toned it down a bit. When I quit working there to become a Fed Ex Ground contractor 3 years ago, I took anyone who wanted to come out shooting. I supplied the weapons and ammo and everyone donated some cash to the "ammo fund". We fired thousands of rounds that day. Everyone who came had a great time.

Now every day when I come by the store to deliver something, they ask me when I can take them out shooting again. I haven't met an anti-hunter yet who could unload 10 rounds out of .22 pistol without having a huge smile on their face.

We have one very good friend who is a vegan. As I have written before, I tell her she is my best friend - she proves that humans don't need to eat meet to live. The first time I said that she looked at me with a blank look. I then said, "Most people don't hunt. But almost everyone eats meat. They don't have to eat meat to live; they only do so for their own pleasure - the same reason I hunt."

I suppose most vegans realize they will never eradicate meat eating - too many people love a T bone. So they will be happy to eliminate hunting. That is why I believe it is important to point out to the vast "indifferent population" that eating meat is no more morally superior than killing an animal to hang its head on the wall.

My other favorite reply when a female asks me if I hunt I say, "Hey - I believe in choice. I am pro-choice - I choose to hunt."

As good friend of mine once said, "the great thing about dealing with the anti's..... we have the guns"

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Originally posted by molar1:
So Don, why don't you tell us how you really feel about those radical left wing communists?
You're alright for someone who resides north of the mason-dixon line!

But I was born and raised in the South, my friend!

STexHunter--you are right!--Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.

Your bucks doing any running? Mine are about half-interested--half in does and half in corn.

there is another p.e.t.a. out there " people eating tasty animals" http://mtd.com/tasty/

I have a sister that is a vegitarian. She wasn't real impressed when I told her Vegitarian was an old indian word and translated to "Lousy Hunter". Of course she lives in Burlington Vermont and I never miss the oportunity to tell her that Vt. is for tofu-farting-fruits that cannot take the Cali. ocean views.

I guess there has been enough genetic poling through countless generations so that I don't have anyone of that orientation in the family, but if I happen to get into a conversation with someone that is of that persuasion I tell them " this is still a free country for a while and you are certainly entitled to your opinions no matter how ignorant they are". I can't believe they still talk to me after saying that but they do.

A woman in the office part where I work is a strong anti hunter. It just so happens that one of my best duck hunting spots is on the river near her house about several hundred yards. I didn't do this on purpose, I'd hunted there for years before I knew her. Anyway this past October she said she could here the shots from her house and began complaining about people shooting inocent animals and her husband (who doesn't hunt) told her as long as she ate chicken and beef she should keep her damm moth shut. Nuff said right there.

I have a sister that believes guns are a source of violence and we have enough fights over that. Especially when she lets my nephew play computer games that portray street violence and shootings but feels he's safe as long as he never gets to shoot a real gun

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Originally posted by NBHunter:
I have a sister that believes guns are a source of violence and we have enough fights over that. Especially when she lets my nephew play computer games that portray street violence and shootings but feels he's safe as long as he never gets to shoot a real gun

Hey NBHunter, not to damn your sister, but that is a prime example of liberal double standard bullshit I see day in and day out from my wife's mother and her family. Makes me sick that people like that are incapable of reason.

I had an aunt who was the PETA type. She died from eating poison mushrooms.

We also had a liberal vegan cousin, she also died from eating poison mushrooms.

I also had an uncle who was a Democrat. He died when he fell down the stairs. He wouldn't eat his poison mushrooms.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
I had an aunt who was the PETA type. She died from eating poison mushrooms.

We also had a liberal vegan cousin, she also died from eating poison mushrooms.

I also had an uncle who was a Democrat. He died when he fell down the stairs. He wouldn't eat his mushrooms.

What did they do go out and pick mushrooms without knowing which ones you could and couldn't eat??

My usual reply to those anti hunting types, when asked how can you shoot Bambi, or how can you eat Bambi...

" well, you get him in the cross hairs first...

Then you pull the trigger and either blow his brains out or blow his heart to pieces....

Then you skin him and cut him up...

Slap some of him in the cook pot, and put the rest of him in the freezer, to eat at some other time......

That is how you can eat Bambi.."

I actually think I have personally had to deal with very few anti hunting people who were vegitarians... most are perfectly happy to go buy beef, chicken or pork at the SuperMarket...

Their response on my questioning them on that, is 'that is different, they don't have to go out and kill the animal and watch it suffer...'

I get no reply to the observation, 'so you let someone else go out and do the dirty work for you then?"

I also point out a lot of these animals live just fine in the wild... living off of leaves and moss, and weeds.... so what is there problem if they are against hunting or eating meat? They can live off the same food substances..

Anti hunters are like most liberals....It doesn't have to make logical sense.. THEY don't have to make logical sense...and they seem to think they are the only ones who are so "enlightened" and the rest of us are too blind to see what they think is obvious.....

They are oblivious to the facts, that there are more views of the world, than just theirs...