Kelly my girlfriend of 11 years and a lurker on AR who has been on 5 or 6 hunts with me, seen elephants, buffalo, shot, and my self Eric Petersen are God Parents to my friends daughter recieved a call last night, please read this its something that all hunters must be aware of.

My friend Johnny called me from the PI(phillipines) he is there on biz and called me and told me this story:

Yesterday afternoon in North or South Carlonia Johnny's wife's dad and dads brother & son dove hunting. The boy was 18 and never hunted before. Everytine the doves would fly past he would stand up they warned him to stay low-he didnt have a gun and was in the blind. With no experience.

A flock of doves flew past and my friend Johnnys father-in-law took a shot at the flock, spun around 180 degrees and took another shot, his nephew stood up as he shot and at 2-4 feet away was accidently shot in the back of the head with a 12 gauge. I have seen photos of point blank shot gun accidents. His girlfriend and several other family members were there to see the accident. The only good news is the father of the victium attempted to shoot his brother but the gun jammed.

I didnt sleep last night very well, and thought long and hard about all the hunting I have done over the years, I'm posting this as a reminder to ALL of us, there are no accidents-someone is awalys at fault. He shot the gun without looking at the birds or paying attention to the other people around him.

I have been around one AD, both of us were at fault I left ammo in the magazine my friend thought he was dry fireing the gun out the door, he hit the door frame-it was lighting fast.

We all must be careful at all times, your playing for keeps on safari or at the range.


I know this is the wrong forum but I wanted alot of people to read this and learn, that family will never be the same and a fine young man lost his life. Be careful out there.

sincerly

Eric Petersen


PS: hello to Saeed, Brother Ron and the rest of my dear friends here on AR. My back is a bit better and I will be elephant hunting this year. Most likely PAC, not trophy bull hunting. I'v been at 14 ele for too long.

again my very best and love to everyone.

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My back is a bit better and I will be elephant hunting this year.

Some good news in amongst the tragic. Good hunting.

Gee whiz, that's terrible. My condolences to the family. I was around only one AD many years ago in a elk camp, a doctor who was in the same camp was unloading his rifle and discharged his .300 Mag into the ground inches from the guide's foot, luckily no one was hurt. My heart goes out to the family.

Thanks for the sober reminder. We all need that now and then. What a tragedy. My condolences to the family.

This happened when I lived in a small town in MN; a father shot his son in the back of the head. It was devasting for the father.

Guns, like cars and many other things, are lethal.

A sobering reminder; my non-hunting cousin flies into PHX tomorrow.

You and your family have our utmost condolences. What a sad way for a family to splinter. We will put you on our prayer list and hope that with God's grace and mercy some healing for everyone involved can start.

God Bless all...

Rich

Most sorry to hear of this terrible event. We miss you, Eric, and I wish you well.

A good reminder that tradgedy is always lurking behind the next corner of life. Be safe!

Good to hrear that you are doing well enough to get back on the ele tracks. Landa ene!

465H&H

How horrible. No one's life will ever be the same. May God have mercy on all of them.

Long Lost Brother Eric,
So glad to hear the good news that your back is coming back.
We got your back!

But so sad to hear about the horribly bad event in "The Carolina." Condolences to you and your friends and hopes that their family can somehow pull through this nightmare.
Every year something similar happens in KY or MO with dove, deer, or turkey hunters.
Always good to be reminded of safety, every day, every way.
Best,
Ron

Eric,

Glad to have you back with us, and that your back is getting better.

This terrible news! Our condolences to the family.

My condolences as well, and yes, there are no accidents. I am a hunter education instructor and this is the thing that is hardest to make kids understand, once you pull the trigger, you can not call it back. Hunting "accidents" almost always involve family or close friends, and as some one pointed out above, no one involved will ever be the same. Tragic indeed.

Thank you all for the kind words, I havent heard any more about this tragity. I havent forgot about anyone here, AR is part of my extended family-I have a good memory and remember everyone here.

My very best to everyone,

Eric Petersen
702-241-8000

It is a tragedy, thank you for taking the time to share it as a cautionary for us.

I am curious, what is the connection to the family? you are the cousins' godparent? I read it a few times and am not getting it straight in my head. I'm sorry.

I found this
link from newspaper with blog comments

I also have a story like this, not connected to me, but sad. I was in 6th grade when heard this from my teacher, not sure why, but remember him crying, and only a few details. He and his brother when young, pre-driving age IIRC were hunting birds and somehow their younger sister was shot and killed. That has always stuck with me and even now is sobering to remember.

Red

I was sorry to read this thread. My condolences to all involved.

I was present for an AD when I was about 10 while on a hunting trip with my dad and some others. As we all gear up for our fall hunting seasons may this be a reminder to treat every weapon as if loaded and always be vigilant concerning where the damn things are pointed.

Sad stuff to be sure. The guy who fired the shot must be devastated, but so must everyone. If you are the shooter, you must take responsibility is what I have been taught.

It is always good to post a 'remember the danger' type post IMO...

I had a new custom rifle delivered once, and when the bolt was closed it fired. It has been a habit of mine to use an empty case to test function in a new rifle, thank goodness, I know a lot of folks whose first test of a new rifle is with factory ammo at the range....who knows what could have happened, it probably wouldn't have even been that noticeable that the firing pin was dropping to an inexperienced shooter...

as others have said, always pay attention to dangerous things, firearms, cars, electricity....

Oh, boo hoo! 18 years old and never hunting before? Why was he there at all? I smell an anti hunting troll -or a sudden anti hunter because of someone's shooting accident. (Shot in the back of the head in a blind? - I want kamo gari's opinion on this one as a forensic investigator!)-and I aint't kidding.

Probably not an uncommon occurance when you think about it. My condolences to the famlies involved.
I said probably not an uncommon occurance as something very similar happened to me, although without loss of life or physical injury to another human being.
This was a deer hunt and we'd jumped a small herd. One of the hunters was a co-worker and the other fellow that came along was his friend who was a Highway Patrol officer. I was guiding them when we spotted the herd. My co-worker and I both shot our deer neatly but the HP guy gut shot his. As his deer was going from right to left, my co-worker and I were tracking the deer in order to get a shot to bring it down. I was on that der and staring my squeese when my scope turned filled with bright yellow hair. Tha dumb ass HP officer had stepped right in front of the muzzle of my .270. I'd estimate that there was probably 2 to 3 ounces of trigger pull left when that happened. To this day, I have no bloody idea how I was able to stop that squeeze and not blow his brains out. About the only hurt as he got the worst ass chewing I've ever given anybody in my life and even worse, that gut shot buck was never recovered. They wanted me to do the gutting on the animals while they tried to track that buck. I should have made blondie do the gutting.
Guess there eally are really dumb blonds in this world. Sad part it wasn't funny and damn well no joke. This happened close to 40 years ago and thinking about it still shakes me up some.
Paul B.

Profoundly disturbing.

A huge amount of sorrow.

Paul B

Oh,Please! You live in the middle of a f....g desert and you wnat to comment on a shooting accident in a duck blind? Again, I say that I want kamo gari in on this hunting accident.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LV Eric:
Kelly my girlfriend of 11 years and a lurker on AR who has been on 5 or 6 hunts with me, seen elephants, buffalo, shot, and my self Eric Petersen are God Parents to my friends daughter recieved a call last night, please read this its something that all hunters must be aware of.

My friend Johnny called me from the PI(phillipines) he is there on biz and called me and told me this story:

Yesterday afternoon in North or South Carlonia Johnny's wife's dad and dads brother & son dove hunting. The boy was 18 and never hunted before. Everytine the doves would fly past he would stand up they warned him to stay low-he didnt have a gun and was in the blind. With no experience.

A flock of doves flew past and my friend Johnnys father-in-law took a shot at the flock, spun around 180 degrees and took another shot, his nephew stood up as he shot and at 2-4 feet away was accidently shot in the back of the head with a 12 gauge. I have seen photos of point blank shot gun accidents. His girlfriend and several other family members were there to see the accident. The only good news is the father of the victium attempted to shoot his brother but the gun jammed.

I didnt sleep last night very well, and thought long and hard about all the hunting I have done over the years, I'm posting this as a reminder to ALL of us, there are no accidents-someone is awalys at fault. He shot the gun without looking at the birds or paying attention to the other people around him.

I have been around one AD, both of us were at fault I left ammo in the magazine my friend thought he was dry fireing the gun out the door, he hit the door frame-it was lighting fast.

We all must be careful at all times, your playing for keeps on safari or at the range.


I know this is the wrong forum but I wanted alot of people to read this and learn, that family will never be the same and a fine young man lost his life. Be careful out there.

sincerly

Eric Petersen


PS: hello to Saeed, Brother Ron and the rest of my dear friends here on AR. My back is a bit better and I will be elephant hunting this year. Most likely PAC, not trophy bull hunting. I'v been at 14 ele for too long.

again my very best and love to everyone.[/QUOTE



I am very sorry to hear of this tragedy. Of all the hunting I've done, dove hunts are by and far the most dangerous and most prone for accidental shootings. Too many inexperienced or never before hunters, too many low shots taken, too many hunter wantabees, etc. I've gone on my last dove hunt where I don't know all the shooters in the group and their capabilities. So sorry for the loss of this young man's life. Mike

I have reread my posts on this thread -and feel ashamed for their unfeeling note about a human tragedy. It was an accident that happened somehow. I had no right to act contemptous about wrong gun handling. I wasn't there so I had no right to judge.

First, my condolences to the family. This is yet another tragic reminder that life in general and guns in particular are very dangerous. Guns are especially dangerous when operated by, or near inexperienced people.

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Originally posted by LV Eric:
Everytine the doves would fly past he would stand up they warned him to stay low-he didnt have a gun and was in the blind. With no experience.

After the first warning to not stand up went unheeded, I personally would have excused him from the blind. Too much happens too fast when hunting, especially when hunting birds. Politeness or political correctness has no place in this.

While the operator most definitely shares fault in this, the other people in the blind should have “stepped up” and made the decision to get the 18 year old some more experience before having him in the blind. A fast shooting situation like this is no place to teach a newbie.

Been around a few AD’s and two most certainly were caused by defective equipment. The others were caused by a defective operator.

This was not an AD, it was the wrong person (or people), in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

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Originally posted by Gerrypeters375:
Paul B

Oh,Please! You live in the middle of a f....g desert and you wnat to comment on a shooting accident in a duck blind? Again, I say that I want kamo gari in on this hunting accident.

FUCK YOU! Who the hell do you think you are? All I commented on was what would have been the same type of accident that by the grace of God did not happen.
I normally do not engage in swearing at people on forums but in your case, I'll make the exception. So, please, kiss my ass.
My apologies to the rest of the forum.
Paul B.

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Originally posted by Paul B:
Probably not an uncommon occurance when you think about it. My condolences to the famlies involved.
I said probably not an uncommon occurance as something very similar happened to me, although without loss of life or physical injury to another human being.
This was a deer hunt and we'd jumped a small herd. One of the hunters was a co-worker and the other fellow that came along was his friend who was a Highway Patrol officer. I was guiding them when we spotted the herd. My co-worker and I both shot our deer neatly but the HP guy gut shot his. As his deer was going from right to left, my co-worker and I were tracking the deer in order to get a shot to bring it down. I was on that der and staring my squeese when my scope turned filled with bright yellow hair. Tha dumb ass HP officer had stepped right in front of the muzzle of my .270. I'd estimate that there was probably 2 to 3 ounces of trigger pull left when that happened. To this day, I have no bloody idea how I was able to stop that squeeze and not blow his brains out. About the only hurt as he got the worst ass chewing I've ever given anybody in my life and even worse, that gut shot buck was never recovered. They wanted me to do the gutting on the animals while they tried to track that buck. I should have made blondie do the gutting.
Guess there eally are really dumb blonds in this world. Sad part it wasn't funny and damn well no joke. This happened close to 40 years ago and thinking about it still shakes me up some.
Paul B.

On our property there an old house that hasn't been lived in for several years. We stay in it sometimes during deer season or turkey season.
Where one of the windows is in the house makes a good shooting rest. My dad had a 6mm with one of the 5oz trigger or 2 oz trigger whatever ounce it is. His hearing isn't very good. He was getting ready to pull the trigger and next thing he saw in the scope was a truck window. A friend had just come down the driveway and pulled in front of the house. With dad having bad hearing and the guy having a quiet truck, dad did not even realize he was there till the truck window just showed up in his crosshairs. As close a call as that was till this day it doesn't matter if dad is shooting a 22 or a 300mag he has not wore earplugs since